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  1. wolf

    wolf Performance Enthusiast

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    when i run the nvidia GPU client, the CPU usage on my quad core is minimal, its about 10-20% usage of one core, so the system doesn't even notice it really.
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    :)WORK IN PROGRESS :)

    This post is an effort to provide the information you may want or need to understand Folding @ Home and hopefully decide to participate.

    I've started to go through the info at the FAH site and I am going to attempt to present it in a simple, easier reading format. I find the site can present a difficult read and this may discourage possible donors :(. This is all FAH info and can be found at http://folding.stanford.edu/ and it's various links, I've only modified the presentation a bit. I hope this is helpful :)

    FOLDING@HOME

    Folding@Home is a distributed computing project that takes advantage of computing resources made avaliable by donors to study protein folding, misfolding, aggregation, and related diseases. Scientists have sequenced the human genome, giving us the blueprint for all of the proteins in biology. This project allows the proteins to be studied in order to understand what they do and how they do it.


    A Protein:

    A protein is a necklace of amino acids, a building block of biology. A protein can perform many functions; as an enzyme they drive all the biochemical reactions that make biology work. As structural elements, they are the essential parts of bones, muscles, hair, skin and blood vessels. As antibodies they recognize "invaders" and allow the immune system to remove them.

    In order to perform its function a protein must first self-assemble, a process known as "folding". Scientists believe that diseases such as Alzheimer's disease, cystic fibrosis, BSE (Mad Cow disease), an inherited form of emphysema, and even many cancers are the result of misfolding. These misfolded proteins can clump together or "aggregate" and build up in the brain.


    Become a Donor:

    You can participate in the research as a donor by downloading a client(s) to run on your hardware. The clients are designed to run in the background with minimal effects to daily use. They take advantage of the resources you are not using at the moment and release them if you should need them. There is a selection of clients, so choose the best fit for you.


    Results:

    Unlike other distributed computing projects, Folding@home is run by an academic institution (specifically the Pande Group, at Stanford University's Chemistry Department), which is a nonprofit institution dedicated to science research and education. They will not sell the data or make any money off of it. Moreover, they will make the data available for others to use. In particular, the results from Folding@home will be made available on several levels. Most importantly, analysis of the simulations will be submitted to scientific journals for publication, and these journal articles will be posted on the web page after publication. Next, after publication of these scientific articles which analyze the data, the raw data of the folding runs will be available for everyone, including other researchers, on the Folding@Home web site.

    This is a link for the FAH home page:
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Main

    This is a link to the FAH pdf Executive Summary, it provides a brief descrpition of the FAH project:
    http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/FoldingFAQ.pdf

    This link gives a more detailed explanation of protein's and folding:
    http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/science.html


    Clients:

    There are different types of clients ready for download . Clients have been designed for Windows, Linux, Mac, and PS3. For each os/platform, there may be more than one client to choose from. The non beta release clients are known to be more stable and should be considered if adequate attention isn't available or instabilities will have negative impacts on other tasks the hardware is responsible for. Some beta clients are tested less and have a higher risk of failed work units; because of the "experimental" nature of these clients, bonuses are awarded for completed work units.

    Depending on what you want to do and what hardware you run, you can utilize different single clients or a combonation of clients.

    The gpu client utilizes a small percentage of processing power from a single cpu core while taking advantage of the gpu processing power for folding. The available cpu clients can utilize the remaining processing power. Again, depending on your cpu, a choice of clients are available. For single core processors the choice would be the single core client. For multicore processors you can use either the single or multicore clients. In the case of a single core client on a multicore processor, you can copy the downloaded executable file to multiple folders and run a client on each available core. A client will run on the core that is handling the gpu client, but because it it sharing the core, it will be less productive. The smp client will take advantage of all remaining processor power (all cores) with one client and at this time has a higher ppd value("experimental" nature of the beta with bonuses). If you use a passkey with your folding name, afaik the smp does not support passkeys.

    To run the gpu client along with a cpu client(s), program priorities may need to be adjusted to ensure the gpu client gets the cpu time it needs to run. When installing the clients, set the cpu client priority to idle and the gpu client to just above idle. If these settings don't allow the gpu client to run, the process priorities may need to be adjusted in the task manager. When running the gpu client it is best to avoid running programs with high graphics demands. (turn off the gpu client until you are finished)

    Downloads can be found here:
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download
    and Windows high performance beta clients here:
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther

    Clients and Faq/install page:


    Windows Clients:

    windows supports 8 clients at the moment, 5 that are beta releases, and 1 backwards compatable.


    1. Windows 2000/XP/Vista Graphical client V 5.03
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGraphicInstall

    2. Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista text-only console (with built-in Windows-service-install option) V 5.04
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinConsoleInstall

    3. Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008 System tray client w/installer 6.10 Beta 3,
    Read this forum post first! http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1459
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGraphicInstall

    4. Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008 Console client (with service install option) V 6.10 Beta 3
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinConsoleInstall

    5.Windows: V6 Beta GPU2 Client V 6.12 Beta 8 (ATI 26xx+, nVidia)
    read this http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=3186)
    http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/cgi-bin/index.php?n=English.FAQ-ATI2

    6. Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008 SMP client console V 5.91 Beta 6
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-SMP

    7. Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008 SMP client console V 5.92 Beta upgrade from 5.91,
    Read this forum post first! http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1783
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-SMP

    8. Windows 98/ME Graphical client V 4.00
    (not recommended for Windows 2000, XP, or Vista)
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGraphicInstall



    Linux Client:

    Linux supports 1 client and at present it only supports 64-bit


    1. Linux (x86) and BSD *combined uniprocessor and SMP client* (64-bit required for SMP) V 6.02 (full release)
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/LinConsoleInstallSMP



    Mac Clients:


    Mac supports 6 clients at present, 2 being beta versions

    1. Mac OS X (Intel) SMP OS X 10.4+ V6.10 Beta 2
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacSMPInstall

    2. Mac OS X (Intel) SMP OS X 10.4+ V 6.02 Beta 2 (console release version)
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacSMPInstall

    3. Mac OS X Graphical client (PPC) V 5.02
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacGraphicInstall

    4. Mac OS X (PPC) OS X 10.3+ V 6.01 Beta 2
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacGraphicInstall

    5. Mac OS X Screensaver (PPC) V 5.02
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacOSXScreensaver

    6. Mac OS X Text console (PPC) V 5.02
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacOSXConsole



    PS3 Client:


    There is one client available for the Platstation 3

    1: Playstation 3 V 1.3.1
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-PS3




    this will tell you about dual gpu configurations:
    http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=850811&postcount=1440



    FAHMon is a useful program for monitoring the progress of your clients.
    http://fahmon.net/

    There are site's hosting stat pages that provide some interesting data as well.
    http://http://kakaostats.com/
    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=
    Our Team Stats:
    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=50711


    Something to keep in mind: this will use power and produce heat. If your pc's are in a location where either of these two factors will have a large negative impact, configure the clients to suit what you can manage.


    There is a decent amount of information available on Folding, people to share it too:) If you have more questions I'm sure someone can provide some answers :)
    Happy Folding :toast:
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  3. wolf

    wolf Performance Enthusiast

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    Dude, were totally gunning for in top 10 in the TPU team in less than a week i reckon.

    youll prolly be there in 3-4 days and me closer to a week, that is, unless those people above us keep folding!
    and since ive started the team has moved considerably among the team rankings, not bad for a team of ~120 peeps :)
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    yeah, we're doing well :)
    I don't think Hat has been moving much so I'm gonna be optimistic and say I'll be in the top ten by morning :) It's a long push to #1 :) If we keep folding at this pace, you'll pass me in less than a week:) @ 10000+ ppd you could hit top ten ~3 days depending on top ten folders anyways

    Haha hey top 10 folders .... keep folding we're coming :toast:

    I woke up this morning to discover I'd run down Sol, there was some talk but I'd have to say he took it like a deer in the headlights;)

    :D I guess the cub scout just ran down bambi :laugh:

    EDIT: here's a link to a team stats page:
    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=50711
    there are team member stats as well... not the numbers I was seeing, but they seem more accurate :)
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    wolf Performance Enthusiast

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    dude you and i are the top 2 producers for the last 24 hours :toast:
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    I just put a CPU client on her rig, while running my GPU client on mine. I want to see how much difference it makes!
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    can anyone drop me a link to the console client? i cant find it ftl. Would love to join TPU for F@H, ive been folding on my PS3 for Custom PC for about 2 months now, i love the thought im doing something good whilst im away or asleep.
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    ignore me, i found it :D
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    Click on the Playstation Icon to the right of the name of the client!

    [​IMG]
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    well i have no problems with my media/download PC being 24/7 folding. 300 PPD isnt gunna make me #1 in the TPU rankings, but it will push the team up a bit :)
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    woot :cool:

    easily over 10k with the 8600GT :laugh:
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    oh come on, you're making my 3450 feel utterly useless now.
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    wolf Performance Enthusiast

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    every bit counts! you had better keep folding ... :slap:

    basically i could get the 8600GT box folding, except i'm short one lan cable! how prawned am i :laugh:
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    sweet :) yeah we're giving it a go aren't we
    I just woke up to top ten :D
  17. p_o_s_pc

    p_o_s_pc F@H&WCG addict

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    my ppd seem kinda low. I got higher PPD with my x2 4600+@2.5ghz [​IMG]
    Crunching for Team TPU
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    wolf Performance Enthusiast

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    in fact, ive clocked the 9600GT a tad more, getting 9500 PPD, i can taste 10k :)
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    newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder

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    The SMP clients PPD have drops dramatically. I think they lowered the bonus you get.
    Crunching for Team TPU More than 25k PPD
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    :rockout:
    :toast:
    How high have you managed to push it? The best my 9600 has done at 825/2100/1000 is ~ 4600 ppd.


    @ p_o_s_pc : ppd will fluctuate depending on your current work unit. Any thing your computer does at the same time can also cause a temperary fluctuation. I've looked through the options for monitoring preferences in fahmon and although the numbers aren't the biggest, effective rate seems to be the most accurate.


    EDIT: drop in bonus makes sense :) I wonder how long the gpu clients will have the present bonuses
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    Is it possible to run a couple of GPU client's (for my HD 2600 Pro's) and the SMP one simultaneously ?

    Thanks in advance :toast:

    edit: folding now ;)
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    Solaris17 Creator Solaris Utility DVD

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    primary system is fubar....proving really difficult to fix her :(
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    That's because you download the work unit in 9 hours... back to the future?
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    Is it ok if I run the gpu and cpu client on the same computer?
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    :banghead:Ahhh man, that's shiity Sol, Sorry to hear that. Hope ya can figure it out. any ideas what the problem is?


    kkk I put together a post for a kind of intro to folding, could peeps take a look and tell me what needs fixing or adding. I don't have dual gpu's so if someone could write something up for that I'll add it. Should prolly add linix info too. I'm hoping if it's presented simple enough it may attract more participation. Please help :)


    http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=871887&postcount=1527
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