TPU's GTX460 Club

[Techtu]

All this talk of overclocked 460's....

Here's mine after a 3D Mark Vantage run, 940/1880/2060 @1.087v ... no kind of volt mod needed

Pretty nice temps too

 

[Shou Miko]

I wish I could get 800.

At stock (763/950, they are Superclocked cards), heavy loads get the top card to 99°, the bottom to mid-90°s at stock voltages (.950 for top card, 1.01875 for bottom card) and fans at 100%.

stock EVGA cooling and not enough room for proper air, if u can mount a fan in the side of ur case right at the side of ur gfx they should be happy for that ^^

want that noticed Techtu? ^^;


but again there ain't much upgrade in going from GTX460 to GTX560Ti ino that and with the GTX560 on the way if it could be unlocked to GTX560Ti for all the shader it would be nice but still than it may get more expensive than a GTX560Ti bcs it's a new product, but i think a GTX570 would be nice for myself but no money for that and my N460GTX HAWK still eats everything i though at it, without lag ^_^

 

[Techtu]

want that noticed Techtu? ^^;

I was bored of waiting for the 3D Mark Vantage thread to be updated so I had to share somewhere else in the mean time

 

[Arctucas]

stock EVGA cooling and not enough room for proper air, if u can mount a fan in the side of ur case right at the side of ur gfx they should be happy for that <SNIP>

I have tried removing the side panel and directing a box fan into the case,

but the top card reached ~98° in less than 90 seconds running OCScanner.

Regarding the card spacing,

does that look really bad?

I do agree that the problem is the eVGA stock cooler, and from reading other users experiences, it appears the SC EE cards are most prone to this problem.

 

[Shou Miko]

are u sure that it's not the paste between the cooler and gpu that's busted? ^^;

 

[Arctucas]

are u sure that it's not the paste between the cooler and gpu that's busted? ^^;

I have tried Shin-Etsu X-23 7783D, MX-3, TIM Consultants TC Grease 0098 and Quantum, IC Diamond... all with the same results.

You tell me, what do you think?

 

[wolf]

I have tried Shin-Etsu X-23 7783D, MX-3, TIM Consultants TC Grease 0098 and Quantum, IC Diamond... all with the same results.

You tell me, what do you think?

take them back as defective or at least email EVGA about it, those temps are nowhere near normal for a GTX460, something is very very wrong.

 

[Arctucas]

take them back as defective or at least email EVGA about it, those temps are nowhere near normal for a GTX460, something is very very wrong.

Yes, well, one of the cards is a RMA replacement for one that I sent in because of the overheating.

I am not one to throw good money after bad, and I believe that I should not have to pay shipping costs, although eVGA will not agree.

Also, a certain eVGA Tech has told me twice 'there are no known problems' with the GTX460 SC EE cards. And there is no guarantee any replacement cards will not be the same or worse.

Therefore, I honestly do not feel like participating in the eVGA Lifetime RMA program,
err... WARRANTY program, yes, that is what I meant...

Although I built this rig for gaming, no current games interest me, and I only use it for surfing and email and the like, so there is really no load ever on the cards.

I will keep them until I can afford new cards, and then throw them in a box and forget about them.

 

[Shou Miko]

As some may have noticed or will notice is that i sold my MSI N460GTX HAWK and bought a used EVGA GeForce GTX 570 so i will be leaving this club, it has been a nice run and if anyone wants the start and coding posted in the first thread p.m. me and i will i will sent u it.

If anyone wanna take over this club u can say so, bcs i will close this thread ^^

it has been nice noticing all down, that had a Nvidia GeForce GTX 460/SE 768/1024/2048mb card and see how ppl was like to get the GTX 460 serie but i noticed for myself that my MSI N460GTX HAWK wasn't strong enough anymore so i upgraded to have a card i can use for long time now and since the programs i use that support Cuda don't support SLi with the Cuda Cores than i wanted some more power and the GTX 570 was in range with 480 Cuda Cores i should survive my application and gaming uses.

 

[CrackerJack]

I'm getting rid of my card also

 

[kurosagi01]

Well i will be keeping my GTX460 for long time as it hasn't let me down yet surprisingly lol.

 

[CrackerJack]

I'm on my 4th card... I'm sick of all the hassle, Not to fanboi but I'm going back to ATi when I get a chance. But I did enjoy Nvidia tho


@Arctucas, Those cards are horrible with heat issues... Like I said before, 4th card since Dec 2010. Changing paste, cleaning dust or adding a box fan will only temporary fix it for a few hours if you lucky.

 

[kurosagi01]

I'm on my 4th card... I'm sick of all the hassle, Not to fanboi but I'm going back to ATi when I get a chance. But I did enjoy Nvidia tho


@Arctucas, Those cards are horrible with heat issues... Like I said before, 4th card since Dec 2010. Changing paste, cleaning dust or adding a box fan will only temporary fix it for a few hours if you lucky.

It must be an EVGA thing Arc because it seems others with MSI and other branded are having no problems,i am getting 30-35C on just web browsing and then shoots up to 55C on 30% fan speed on my KFA2/Galaxy EX OC edition.

 

[CrackerJack]

It must be an EVGA thing Arc because it seems others with MSI and other branded are having no problems,i am getting 30-35C on just web browsing and then shoots up to 55C on 30% fan speed on my KFA2/Galaxy EX OC edition.

O yea it is, All the problems are that I've seen or heard all come from EVGA cards. ATM I'm getting 40-50 web browsing. Few min in Rift fan speeds jump to around 60% and temps are 90+ and climbing till it crashes my system. I'm waiting on the replace card to come in, so I'm stuck with this card till it shows up. Look at selling it, I'm annoyed with this already

 

[kurosagi01]

Well lesson to be learnt from one of Nvidia major dealer is that some of their coolers are a poor.

 

[newtekie1]

Yes, well, one of the cards is a RMA replacement for one that I sent in because of the overheating.

I am not one to throw good money after bad, and I believe that I should not have to pay shipping costs, although eVGA will not agree.

Also, a certain eVGA Tech has told me twice 'there are no known problems' with the GTX460 SC EE cards. And there is no guarantee any replacement cards will not be the same or worse.

Therefore, I honestly do not feel like participating in the eVGA Lifetime RMA program,
err... WARRANTY program, yes, that is what I meant...

Although I built this rig for gaming, no current games interest me, and I only use it for surfing and email and the like, so there is really no load ever on the cards.

I will keep them until I can afford new cards, and then throw them in a box and forget about them.

You have to manually adjust the fan speed, or use a better fan profile with MSI Afterburner/EVGA Precision or they will get hot. My GTX460 EEs never see over 75°C under load.

 

[CrackerJack]

You have to manually adjust the fan speed, or use a better fan profile with MSI Afterburner/EVGA Precision or they will get hot. My GTX460 EEs never see over 75°C under load.

I had the same issues, with factory bios. I had 3 cards reaching at 90c under load... o well went back to AMD

I haven't seen any heat issues with my GTX460 EEs when I set a better fan profile. The stock fan profile sucks.

Felt like we should talk about this here, 90% of the EVGA GTX 460 cards i've seen that had issues were the EE's. Stock fan profile may suck, but that's there issue not mine.. I just wanted a card to run, and not have to change fan settings.. I've never had a card that I had to do this too.

 

[newtekie1]

Felt like we should talk about this here, 90% of the EVGA GTX 460 cards i've seen that had issues were the EE's. Stock fan profile may suck, but that's there issue not mine.. I just wanted a card to run, and not have to change fan settings.. I've never had a card that I had to do this too.

I have to change the fan profile on pretty much every card I own because most of the fan profiles suck on stock coolers, they tailor them for noise most of the time and not temperature. They do just enough to keep the card safe, and that is it(and 90°C is considered safe with Fermi).

I mean, you look at some of the stock AMD cards and you see the same thing, they have horrible fan profiles as well. Look at the last stock AMD card W1z reviewed, the HD6950 1GB, and the stock cooler hit temps of 90°C under load. The reference HD6990, same story, reference HD6870, HD6970 2GB, and HD6950 2GB were the same as well. I'm not saying AMD is bad, I'm just pointing out that they are the same as the nVidia cards, so your move back to them because you didn't like the high temps of the nVidia cards with stock fan profiles is misguided.

90°C+ temps are standard on a reference cooler with reference fan profiles.

Now, the EEs aren't a reference cooler, granted. However, they are annoying loud at higher fan speeds, which means they were also tailored for noise not cooling performance. You will find some cards are tailored for noise, some for cooling performance, and some afternarket coolers are great at both.

 

[CrackerJack]

I have to change the fan profile on pretty much every card I own because most of the fan profiles suck on stock coolers, they tailor them for noise most of the time and not temperature. They do just enough to keep the card safe, and that is it(and 90°C is considered safe with Fermi).

I mean, you look at some of the stock AMD cards and you see the same thing, they have horrible fan profiles as well. Look at the last stock AMD card W1z reviewed, the HD6950 1GB, and the stock cooler hit temps of 90°C under load. The reference HD6990, same story, reference HD6870, HD6970 2GB, and HD6950 2GB were the same as well. I'm not saying AMD is bad, I'm just pointing out that they are the same as the nVidia cards, so your move back to them because you didn't like the high temps of the nVidia cards with stock fan profiles is misguided.

90°C+ temps are standard on a reference cooler with reference fan profiles.

Now, the EEs aren't a reference cooler, granted. However, they are annoying loud at higher fan speeds, which means they were also tailored for noise not cooling performance. You will find some cards are tailored for noise, some for cooling performance, and some afternarket coolers are great at both.

Oh yea i know brand/company has it's flaws, but i just want one that works lol I don't OC much anymore, so if I have to change settings from a stock set point.. I'll swap it out for something different or won't buy it.

 

[Arctucas]

You have to manually adjust the fan speed, or use a better fan profile with MSI Afterburner/EVGA Precision or they will get hot. My GTX460 EEs never see over 75°C under load.

Here is my fan profile:

What adjustments would you recommend I make to keep the cards cooler?

 

[Arctucas]

O yea it is, All the problems are that I've seen or heard all come from EVGA cards.
<SNIP>

I posted on eVGA forums about the issue, but eVGA representatives have denied any problems, and insist there is nothing wrong with the EE cards.

 

[CrackerJack]

I posted on eVGA forums about the issue, but eVGA representatives have denied any problems, and insist there is nothing wrong with the EE cards.

yea same here, they said 2 out of the 3 cards were bad that i sent... not sure about that one. but they all were hitting 90 fast. i have one here i'm selling to a friend which i'm hoping it will be better.

 

[newtekie1]

Oh yea i know brand/company has it's flaws, but i just want one that works lol I don't OC much anymore, so if I have to change settings from a stock set point.. I'll swap it out for something different or won't buy it.

You don't really have to change settings from the stock, as I already explained.

Here is my fan profile:

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/Arctucas/ABfanprofile-1.jpg

What adjustments would you recommend I make to keep the cards cooler?

You are running a more aggressive fan profile than I am, so I don't know what the problem is. What are your ambient temps? And what are you using the load the cards?

 

[CrackerJack]

You don't really have to change settings from the stock, as I already explained.

o well i ran stock the whole time, i believe he has similar results as mine. idle 35-40 80%+ load 85+

 

[Arctucas]

You don't really have to change settings from the stock, as I already explained.



You are running a more aggressive fan profile than I am, so I don't know what the problem is. What are your ambient temps? And what are you using the load the cards?

Typically, ambient is ~21°-24°.

eVGA OCScanner to load the cards.

My personal opinion; the eVGA coolers are defective.