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I was completely surprised at my ability to spend about ten minutes, and solve it.

Usually takes me much, MUCH longer to figure stuff out, often with the help from you all!
Had the same experience when I started on these forums. Had some knowledge from what I'd scrounged up and from textbooks, but just skimming around on TPU over the years, I ended up hearing about the different types of issues people have. Even if I don't know the solution, I'll subscribe to the thread just to see how it turns out. After a while, you'll run across something you've heard about and go "Oh hey! I remember so and so over at TPU had this issue! It ended up being the power supply!"
 

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Had the same experience when I started on these forums. Had some knowledge from what I'd scrounged up and from textbooks, but just skimming around on TPU over the years, I ended up hearing about the different types of issues people have. Even if I don't know the solution, I'll subscribe to the thread just to see how it turns out. After a while, you'll run across something you've heard about and go "Oh hey! I remember so and so over at TPU had this issue! It ended up being the power supply!"

I've found this to be true in my case as well, as I'm sure many other have as well.

It's also the reason why I so appreciate helpful AND pleasant/nice people, because there's nothing worse than reading through a thread for help (whether my own or someone else's) and constantly see rash people bickering, fighting, trolling, etc.

Thankfully this team is full of awesome and helping people. Props to our team yet again :respect:
 

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For anyone that went to Windows 10, did you have to adjust anything in OS for optimal ppd? My Win10 rig seems to have dropped significantly in ppd, now averaging around 3.5k on a 2600k.... :confused:


Edit: looks like it was at 7.4.36, and there's a newer version. While the newer version is registered as Win10, I'll give it a go anyway.

I remember back when Win8 came out, I had difficulty on my rigs, granted it was with the GPU wu. Maybe it must be something to do with the new OS perhaps? ;)
 
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I am still waiting for the "let's upgrade now" notification on my main rig. Did it reset on wcg when you did the upgrade and it is spooling back up?
 

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I am still waiting for the "let's upgrade now" notification on my main rig. Did it reset on wcg when you did the upgrade and it is spooling back up?

I don't think so. After it upgraded, everything booted back up and nothing was changed in boinc.

It's acting like something is keeping it from working all the time. This rig was iffy after getting the 2600k but it seemed to do with bios settings. After disabling all power saving features, it worked well. And that reminds me, I need to look at power saving features! Aha!
 
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I don't think so. After it upgraded, everything booted back up and nothing was changed in boinc.

It's acting like something is keeping it from working all the time. This rig was iffy after getting the 2600k but it seemed to do with bios settings. After disabling all power saving features, it worked well. And that reminds me, I need to look at power saving features! Aha!
I was wondering if wcg would see the upgraded rig as a new rig and make it start all over again. I'll post my experience when or if I upgrade.
 
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I figure I will wait a bit, let MS figure out some stuff. I'll go for it but, I am not willing to devote even more time to maintaining my little farm. Plus, I lose enough sleep, schedule keeps changing, Boss keeps saying it will get better.

So, Yea. I'm gonna wait a bit. Not for work to get better, that won't happen!:laugh:
 

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Yea I seen it. Just not sure if I want to surrender my win 8.1 key for the upgrade. d
I figure I will wait a bit, let MS figure out some stuff. I'll go for it but, I am not willing to devote even more time to maintaining my little farm. Plus, I lose enough sleep, schedule keeps changing, Boss keeps saying it will get better.

So, Yea. I'm gonna wait a bit. Not for work to get better, that won't happen!:laugh:

I cant can (thanks @Arjai) completely understand waiting. My main rig is queued up to upgrade as well, but the more I think about it all, I'm thinking about maybe waiting on that one... Not sure yet, guess I need to make sure that this issue can be cleared up easily.
 
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I was wondering if wcg would see the upgraded rig as a new rig and make it start all over again. I'll post my experience when or if I upgrade.
So I completed my upgrade last night and just check FreeDC a moment ago. I can say that this rig still shows as the same rig with the total previous output still in tact, but it now displays a Windows 10 in the details. If it makes a difference to you, here is the order in which I did the upgrade:

1. Computer was up and crunching with Windows 7 Pro and BOINC 7.2.46 (IIRC) installed
2. Updated to Windows 10, leaving apps and files in place
3. Once the upgrade was done, I launched BOINC and took the link from the Notices tab to download the new client (whatever the latest is - something like 7.4.47 - based on Matt's comments above)
4. Closed out BOINC and installed the new version over the top of the old version
5. Rebooted
6. Magic bananas :pimp:
 
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So I completed my upgrade last night and just check FreeDC a moment ago. I can say that this rig still shows as the same rig with the total previous output still in tact, but it now displays a Windows 10 in the details. If it makes a difference to you, here is the order in which I did the upgrade:

1. Computer was up and crunching with Windows 7 Pro and BOINC 7.2.46 (IIRC) installed
2. Updated to Windows 10, leaving apps and files in place
3. Once the upgrade was done, I launched BOINC and took the link from the Notices tab to download the new client (whatever the latest is - something like 7.4.47 - based on Matt's comments above)
4. Closed out BOINC and installed the new version over the top of the old version
5. Rebooted
6. Magic bananas :pimp:
cool beans. :toast:
 

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Finally got BOINC reinstalled on the Win 10 rig, and I hope it starts seeing some better numbers. Unfortunately the 4790 rig is still down, haven't been able to change the gpu; no time lately.

I do hope by the weekend I should be able to get everything back up and running, but then again things just seem to pop up all the time :rolleyes:
 

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I haven't heard from him but he was online 11 hours ago.
Wasn't he due more botox injections?
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I was just looking at this. From August, a year ago, till now. I have more than Doubled my output vs. my 1st year. Of course, one year was intermittent, at best, since I was on the Streets, camping and couch surfing. But, May of 2014, mid-way, I bought this Lappy-Top. 4 cores Crunching at 2.4 GHz, it has been a BIG booster! Now, I have a, new to me, E8600, Karen, Crunching, from a Q6600 I swapped out, although it is now only using 1 core for WCG because it is Folding, also. Giving it that one core has meant I have been getting Pie in the Folding Forum, with the 7850 I got from @mx500torid . And my Trusty 334 PPD 2.8 GHz P4 Cruncher, both are going strong!!

I am gonna switch around some memory sticks, and get the MadCruncher going, maybe even, tonight. One more glass of wine, and I might just go digging in, I have to switch out some sticks from This 'Ole Comp. I think... Not sure if the MadCruncher is DDR, or DDR2. If it's DDR, it will be going soon. If not, it will have to wait for my paycheck.

Let's see...

Yep!
So, I am gonna test out the DDR I have. 2 512's Crucial Ballistic and 2 512's of Corsair XMS. One of these sticks, or more, is bad. I have some new Mushkin 1GB's that were slated for This 'Ole Comp. But the board I bought for it, well, long story, is dead.

So, here we go!! After I pour out another glass!! :toast:
 
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Does anyone on linux mint want to do an experiment? I want you to run a linux benchmark, update your kernal, and run the benchmark again. Shouldn't be too difficult. It does not have to be mint, but I think users running mint might see a large change in performance since the kernal is so old.
This is all apart of some tweaks I am trying to get more performance out of linux. I forgot to do a before everything test, to compare with an after test. So I would really like to see others results. Also, the more results from more people will show if updating really makes a difference. I have done some other tests, but coming from an earlier version of 3.19 gave me a 13% boost.

It should only take 10 minutes of your time, well, not counting the 2 hours waiting for the before and after benchmark to run.

This is for intel cpu's and X64 bit systems only!!
Linux mint uses an old kernal of 3.13. You can check by using the command in a terminal.
Code:
uname -a

This will download the benchmark, and then run it. 4 lines. The benchmark took almost an hour to run on my system. If you just want to copy, paste, and have linux run all of it at once, look at the spoiler right below the code.
Code:
wget http://byte-unixbench.googlecode.com/files/unixbench-5.1.3.tgztar xvf UnixBench-5.1.3.tgz

tar xvf UnixBench-5.1.3.tgz

cd unixbench-5.1.3

./Run
Code:
wget http://byte-unixbench.googlecode.com/files/unixbench-5.1.3.tgztar xvf UnixBench-5.1.3.tgz && tar xvf UnixBench-5.1.3.tgz && cd unixbench-5.1.3 && ./Run
The benchmark should give you two scores. A single threaded and a multi threaded. Some example scores from my 2500k system are 2190 single threaded and 5990 multi threaded.

This will update your kernal to 3.19.3-k17-generic. Then reboot your computer. If you just want to copy, paste, and have linux run all of it at once, look at the spoiler right below the code.
Code:
wget http://multiclangaming.com/files/linux-headers-3.19.3-k17-generic_3.19.3-k17-generic-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb

wget http://multiclangaming.com/files/linux-image-3.19.3-k17-generic_3.19.3-k17-generic-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Sudo reboot
Code:
wget http://multiclangaming.com/files/linux-headers-3.19.3-k17-generic_3.19.3-k17-generic-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb && wget http://multiclangaming.com/files/linux-image-3.19.3-k17-generic_3.19.3-k17-generic-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb && sudo dpkg -i *.deb && sudo reboot

Then check if the kernal update worked by typing in a terminal:
Code:
uname -a
You should see 3.19.3-k17-generic.

Then update your system.
Code:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade

If the update was a success, run the benchmark again.
Code:
cd unixbench-5.1.3

./Run
Code:
cd unixbench-5.1.3 && ./Run
 
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I'm sure other people have noticed this but I don't recall reading anything here about it. Since we can't get statistics by project and device except by looking at results status on the WCG site I can't say this definitely but it seems to me that the OET project only awards about 10-12 points per hour of work while UGM seems to award between 20 and 25. Any idea why there is such a disparity or am I just not looking carefully enough?

I know that hours spent is only one factor in determining points but I'm seeing this difference on the same machines pretty much across the board.
 
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I know that hours spent is only one factor in determining points but I'm seeing this difference on the same machines pretty much across the board.
Aren't projects benchmarked with a Pentium 3 or 4 (or something) to determine point values? If something is relatively easy for the test machine to crunch through, but more difficult for modern machines, the points rewarded would be less for us.
 
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I've noticed my wcg ppd output have decreased in both machines since I restarted to fold ten days ago. :ohwell:

I mean cpu is not totally idle when gpu is folding.

FahCore_17.exe uses 25% (100/4) of cpu resources on Q6600.
FahCore_18.exe uses 17% (100/6) of cpu resources on FX6300.

And folding power knob (light-medium-full) at FAHcontrol does not control the power the way I though.
It's more like cpu only (light), gpu only (med), cpu+gpu (full), right?
 
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Aren't projects benchmarked with a Pentium 3 or 4 (or something) to determine point values? If something is relatively easy for the test machine to crunch through, but more difficult for modern machines, the points rewarded would be less for us.
I don't really know. I think I looked into points calcs years ago but don't remember now. It's hard to believe that an older machine like a Pentium could do any tasks faster than more modern machines. Also, why would you have nearly a 100% difference between 2 projects like UGM and OET?

I might have to drop OET once I hit 20 years go to all UGM.
 
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