trade a 1055t for a i7 860?

[crazyeyesreaper]

trolling can go both ways and theres no fun in it unless i roll with it right mailman?

 

[TheMailMan78]

trolling can go both ways and theres no fun in it unless i roll with it right mailman?

Taken like a champ!

 

[gifted1]

Taken like a champ!

i agree, taken like a champ, and by the way its time for beer!! whats the time now in the US where you guys live..

 

[erocker]

i agree, taken like a champ, and by the way its time for beer!! whats the time now in the US where you guys live..

It's late enough for a beer. I think I'll have one at work.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

but yea mailman i noticed it when moving from the 4870x2 to 5850 in xfire in some FPS games i just did WAY better. also noticed the change from 5850 xfire to 6970 xfire in BC2 not so much other games but in Bad Company the 6970s allow me to hit around 90fps avg. where as my 5850s tend to top out around 65-70

5850s would dip down to the 20s while the 6970s drop down to only around 55-60

and with no vsync theres no input lag compared to it being on. so its definetly helped my performance in game in general by a large margin since im still using the same guns now at rank 40+ as i did at rank 10

but in reality i need the above + a stable server... and stable BC2 servers for me are few and far between. feels like alot of the servers are only running 15-20fps so hit detection is screwy in some situations

 

[TheMailMan78]

but yea mailman i noticed it when moving from the 4870x2 to 5850 in xfire in some FPS games i just did WAY better. also noticed the change from 5850 xfire to 6970 xfire in BC2 not so much other games but in Bad Company the 6970s allow me to hit around 90fps avg. where as my 5850s tend to top out around 65-70

5850s would dip down to the 20s while the 6970s drop down to only around 55-60

and with no vsync theres no input lag compared to it being on. so its definetly helped my performance in game in general by a large margin since im still using the same guns now at rank 40+ as i did at rank 10

My SINGLE 5850 never drops down to 20 FPS in BC2.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

well again that comes down to the CPU bottleneck Phenom IIs encouter with dual gpus... which is why i pushed so hard for the upgrade to an i7 with a good gpu.

this is where dave and I have both noticed the same in certain games which i pointed out earlier.

Bad Company 2 is one of those games.. it stresses the CPU so much and with the limited system memory bandwith the Phenom II cant feed the GPUs enough to offer good stable frame rate at least not at my settings..

in essence at the settings i play at my 2x 6970s should give me 140-150fps not 80-90 but im so heavily limited by the phenom IIs performance per core and bandwidth it holds me back.. Its why im waiting to see what Daves results are as once i move to either sandybridge or bulldozer. Ill be doing a performance test with multiple games stock vs stock 965be vs 2500k so no tinkering no nothing just straight performance change. with both single and dual card. problem is i have to wait for the P67 board to arrive or for bulldozer to come out swinging eitherway. only a few weeks till i can put my experiences down into a review

much like my 5850 xfire review and 6970 single and Crossfire review along with comparisons I did between 5850xfire and 6970 xfire

 

[gifted1]

My SINGLE 5850 never drops down to 20 FPS in BC2.

even my 5770 doesnt!

 

[erocker]

My SINGLE 5850 never drops down to 20 FPS in BC2.

even my 5770 doesnt!

This is where the 6 core makes a difference. I went from a PII 965 to a PII 1100t and noticed a difference. While I didn't drop down to 20 fps like crazy, I got drops when a lot was happening, smoke, etc. I've tested as well and my results weren't nearly as bad as both crazyeyes and cadaveca have gotten. Maybe it has to do with the motherboard. I know I would never bother with a Gigabyte 7xx series board. Gigabyte + AMD have always been garbage for me.

 

[cadaveca]

My results are based on STOCK numbers. Overclocking can give varied results, as memory contoller speed, memory speed and timings, and actual CPU frequency can all affect performance in different ways. More than likely it's that, and NOT the board, that has us seeing different numbers. Drop back to stock, and your numbers will be very close to my own, provided you use the same ram speed, and the same GPU, again with the same speeds, and shader config.

For example, using F1 2010, and the same GPU, stock give me ~45 FPS, OC gives ~55FPS; I7 870 @ stock i get 55FPS, OC 60; I7 2600K I get 60FPS stock, and OC gives about 5-8 more.

Keep in mind, all these numbers are run with a 6950 @ stock, with stock shader config, and 1333 MHz CAS9 mem.

 

[erocker]

If I wanted to run stock I wouldn't of bought AMD in the first place. It's pretty obvious that Intel has had the superior archetecture since Core2.

 

[cadaveca]

If I wanted to run stock I wouldn't of bought AMD in the first place.

Sure, and that's a very valid point here...because stock on AMD cpus really does affect game performance. Oc provides a slightly different picture, but still, my 1100T when OC'd, barely reaches the stock Intel numbers.

I'm also posting average FPS from testing across many different boards for each CPU, here.

back when Core2 was Intel's thing, AMD was quite competitive, but since then Intel has released a couple(well, OK, a few) new product lines, while AMD is still pushing the same tech from years ago, so comparisons of these products is kinda silly. Bulldozer should be compared with current Intel chips, only, but Bulldozer isn't out yet.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

eitherway trolling and good fun aside i stand by my point

if your getting a good gpu get a cpu that can do the job to..

a balanced rig tends to be the better idea then either cpu heavy or gpu heavy. right now im gpu heavy with no power to push them so i dont get the performance i should where as if i was running a 5770 for instance id have plenty of cpu power in comparison but be highly limited by the gpu theres a balance of where things make sense right now my system is in the this shit dosent make sense category in terms of GPU to CPU balance

 

[gifted1]

eitherway trolling and good fun aside i stand by my point

if your getting a good gpu get a cpu that can do the job to..

a balanced rig tends to be the better idea then either cpu heavy or gpu heavy. right now im gpu heavy with no power to push them so i dont get the performance i should where as if i was running a 5770 for instance id have plenty of cpu power in comparison but be highly limited by the gpu theres a balance of where things make sense right now my system is in the this shit dosent make sense category in terms of GPU to CPU balance

isnt it something for you that deal?

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

huh? dont quite understand that question care to rephrase?

 

[gifted1]

huh? dont quite understand that question care to rephrase?

forget about it...i wasnt thinking strait, i didnt take my ritalin yet

 

[Wile E]

you sure all those other lcd`s put out 60 hz? source?

None have shown otherwise as of yet. Here's a couple of articles to get you started. Google for more.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/overdrive_at_75hz.htm

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/specs.htm (scroll down to the refresh rate section)