1. Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Ubisoft Developing PC Free-To-Play Ghost Recon Game, Claims Is 'embracing pirates'

Discussion in 'News' started by qubit, Nov 26, 2011.

  1. newtekie1

    newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2005
    Messages:
    20,241 (6.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    6,277
    I hardly think that is what they were saying there. I think they were saying it pollutes the experience of getting it by pirating it. I know I've run into plenty of games that released an update that broke the crack, that pollutes the experience for pirates. No DRM removes that pollution.

    However, I think they should still sell it and charge for it. Just to prove that sales will be in the absolute tank if a AAA title is released without DRM.
     
    Crunching for Team TPU 50 Million points folded for TPU
  2. DrPepper

    DrPepper The Doctor is in the house

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2008
    Messages:
    7,483 (2.95/day)
    Thanks Received:
    813
    Location:
    Scotland (It rains alot)
    I'd lol if hardly anyone played it because it's shit like the 95% of ubisoft games.
     
  3. qubit

    qubit Overclocked quantum bit

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    9,939 (3.86/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,531
    Location:
    Quantum well (UK)
    I don't think so, look, Arnoult said "It's easy to download, there's no DRM that will pollute your experience."

    How can you see this any way other than the DRM itself is the pollution?

    What do others think?
     
  4. neko77025

    neko77025

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2011
    Messages:
    76 (0.06/day)
    Thanks Received:
    8
    This sounds like A excuse to jump on the F2P band waggon. Frist off Ubisoft is in wicked trouble with finances .. they have had A huge amount of flops in the last year(s). I just looked at all the games I have bought in the last 2 years .. None of them were made by or published by Ubisoft. Also, Shame on Ubisoft to to blame pirating on poor sells in PC. I am sure if they made games ppl want too play they would sell. Take A look at skyrim 300k ppl on steam at one time playing the game .. and that is not everyone who bought just playing at that time. I am sick of ppl saying PC gaming is dead for one reason or another ... if PC gameing was dead why would AMD/ATI and NVIDA release new GPUs every year .. why would 10x companys manufatuer these in video cards .. why are they always selling out when they first release ... ... PC gameing is not dead .. their is just more money in consloes .. they just dont want too say they want more money .. its ok .. I want more money too .. Just fucking say it ... consoles make you more money. As for Ubisoft .. no loss for me ... I will just add them too the list with THQ (companys i wont buy from list ).

    As we all know F2P (really should be called free too play if you want too suck) are the new fad, but they are makeing money .. and that is what this is all about.

    read this ..
    http://www.overclockersclub.com/news/30035/
     
    SQr says thanks.
  5. Kreij

    Kreij Senior Monkey Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    13,881 (4.82/day)
    Thanks Received:
    5,619
    Location:
    Cheeseland (Wisconsin, USA)
    Re-read the portions of the OP that are quotes from the Ubisoft asshat.
    It's the most offensive, condescending crap spewing I have ever seen coming from a gaming company directed at PC gamers.
     
  6. Easy Rhino

    Easy Rhino Linux Advocate

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2006
    Messages:
    13,541 (4.57/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,381
    i agree. it sounds like the rant of a little child. i dont think ill be buying any ubisoft games for awhile.
     
    Crunching for Team TPU
  7. qubit

    qubit Overclocked quantum bit

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    9,939 (3.86/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,531
    Location:
    Quantum well (UK)
    Yup.

    and yup.

    It reads like a 101 in how to alienate gamers and lose customers doesn't it? :shadedshu Just call them all "pirates" and feed them crap. Yeah, way to go Ubisoft. :slap:
     
  8. SirMango

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2007
    Messages:
    116 (0.04/day)
    Thanks Received:
    6
    F2P or not, you've already lost me as a potential customer when you started putting insane DRM into your games, Ubisoft.
     
  9. CrAsHnBuRnXp

    CrAsHnBuRnXp

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2007
    Messages:
    5,573 (2.12/day)
    Thanks Received:
    675
    What is going to be great is when "94%" of the people who would normally pirate the game dont even bother downloading the free game.
     
  10. newtekie1

    newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2005
    Messages:
    20,241 (6.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    6,277
    Yes, he is saying there's no DRM to pollute your downloading experience. That is why he uses a comma an not a period. When a comma is used, the second half of the sentence is in relation to the first half. So the experience he is talking about is the downloading he is talking about at the beginning of the sentence.

    But my point is that they are just putting out more bullshit marketting crap about DRM the way they are doing it now. I'd rather see them prove their original point, or disprove it, that DRM improves sales on AAA titles. By just releasing it for free they can't do that.
     
    Crunching for Team TPU 50 Million points folded for TPU
  11. NC37

    NC37

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,207 (0.54/day)
    Thanks Received:
    270
    Heh I won't. Ghost Recon died the day they announced Ghost Recon 2. It became a festering zombie the day Mitchell spoke in Warfighter, and no one seems to get the concept of "removing the head, or destroying the brain."

    First time you'll see me ever rooting for CoD to squash it. They ruined Recon. It either needs to return to it's roots and stop catering to kids, or just outright have that bullet in the head.
     
  12. W1zzard

    W1zzard Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2004
    Messages:
    15,043 (3.88/day)
    Thanks Received:
    11,951
    I doubt DRM has any significant effect on piracy, cracked versions are usually released days within the game's release. and everybody can find them easily nowadays via Google.

    how is it possible that most console ports dont even have adjusted menus if you have that much developer time available for a pc port ? changing an in-game graphic from a triangle button icon to a text label shouldnt take more than 10 minutes?
     
    yogurt_21, Mr McC and qubit say thanks.
  13. pantherx12

    pantherx12 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2009
    Messages:
    9,714 (4.45/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,699
    Location:
    ENGLAND-LAND-LAND
    Is it not easier to build a game for pc and then scale it down?
     
  14. W1zzard

    W1zzard Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2004
    Messages:
    15,043 (3.88/day)
    Thanks Received:
    11,951
    you need to build two versions of anything thats not in-game logic anyway: ps3 and xbox 360

    adding pc is very easy, the 360 is basically a windows pc with directx

    if you look at game data files, you can easily see that all platforms use the same files with platform specific defines, same should be happening for the codebase
     
    Shihabyooo, KieranD and pantherx12 say thanks.
  15. cheesy999

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2010
    Messages:
    3,923 (2.40/day)
    Thanks Received:
    581
    Location:
    UK
    it would be easier, but it would likely leave the game more unoptimised compared to games designed for the console and in an environment with limited resources available efficiency is everything.
     
    pantherx12 says thanks.
  16. Jarman New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2007
    Messages:
    388 (0.13/day)
    Thanks Received:
    71
    Location:
    Wrexham UK
    League of legends, it's free. Although most (including myself, spend money on it.)
    QaukeLive..No cpma, but you can't have everything for free.


    World of Tanks, HON...I haven't played these two, but they seem pretty good.
     
  17. Jarman New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2007
    Messages:
    388 (0.13/day)
    Thanks Received:
    71
    Location:
    Wrexham UK
    It doesn't matter if a game has DRM or not, if you update it you will still need a new crack.
     
  18. newtekie1

    newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2005
    Messages:
    20,241 (6.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    6,277
    You're right, but with AAA titles, many people aren't willing to wait. Not to mention most pirated versions don't work properly with multiplayer, which most want. Oh, and as each update comes out the crack breaks. And most casual "console" gamers can't figure out torrents, and what to do with the files once they download them.
     
    Crunching for Team TPU 50 Million points folded for TPU
  19. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    11,249 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,803
    Location:
    US
    That makes a hell of of people thief's in fact i feel insulted.

    Calling them common thief's is not either.
     
    KieranD says thanks.
  20. KieranD

    KieranD

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2007
    Messages:
    8,063 (3.00/day)
    Thanks Received:
    829
    Location:
    Glasgow, Scotland
    Any company who treats their customers like this it doesn't do that company any favours, its patronising and flat out insulting.
     
    AsRock says thanks.
  21. caleb

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2004
    Messages:
    1,553 (0.41/day)
    Thanks Received:
    206
    Location:
    Poland,Slask

    +1 FU UBISOFT for killing RainbowSix.
     
    INSTG8R says thanks.
  22. qubit

    qubit Overclocked quantum bit

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    9,939 (3.86/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,531
    Location:
    Quantum well (UK)
    Ok, my head hurts, but never mind it's not that important. :)

    Yes, finally something we agree on, especially the bold bit. :) Indeed, I'd made just this point in my news article, Ubisoft Abandons Despised Always-On DRM For Upcoming Assassin's Creed: Revelations

     
  23. FordGT90Concept

    FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!"

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2008
    Messages:
    14,117 (6.23/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,938
    Location:
    IA, USA
    Ubisoft is being an asshole now. :mad:
     
    Crunching for Team TPU
  24. morphy

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2007
    Messages:
    59 (0.02/day)
    Thanks Received:
    14
    From reading that it seems if you're a PC gamer you're automatically seen as a pirate by UbiSoft. I'm a PC gamer, been buying games consistently for years - hell I have more games bought than I have time to play them and yet in Ubisoft's eyes I might as well be a filthy, stinkin pirate.

    This makes me mad and resentful. And after all that, they still expect me to be their customer....GTFO! If they haven't lost me as a customer already, they just nailed the final nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned.
     
    FordGT90Concept and qubit say thanks.
  25. qubit

    qubit Overclocked quantum bit

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2007
    Messages:
    9,939 (3.86/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,531
    Location:
    Quantum well (UK)
    Yep, well put. :cool: You're echoing what many of us on here are thinking. GTFO indeed.
     

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guest)

Share This Page