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Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy heron) review

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    Today i bring you the review of Ubuntu 8.04 hardy heron in a hopes to open your eyes to some of the biggest open source operating systems in the world.

    TEST SYSTEM
    3.7Ghz E6400
    4GB (2x2GB) 675mhz ram
    100GB 7200RPM IDE seagate HDD
    ubuntu 8.04 x64

    Install Time:10-20min

    So first we Get our distro the iso weights in at ~700mb more around 690ish

    After we burn the iso we boot it and come to out boot screen. This screen has the basic linux options memtest, test source boot hdd and install :) as well of course as running it as live to see what you like. :)

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    After you select install ubuntu the first step in our relatively short install process is choosing your language. Of course like all good linux distros these days in their own language.

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    After we get your language picked out we start our default "load kernel state" that provides your system with basic drivers like windows and of course includes the meat of the installer.

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    After the kernel loads and the setup initiates we get your first happy little screen thats going to guide you through the set up process. As you can see im happy about this install because while others usually do give you a good feel ubuntu gives you that warn this is going to be fun color and look.

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    After you click next we pick your timezone and begin the basic info gather stage of the installation. given the short install time youll notice it gets complicated quickly. Instead of the other distros that bore you with page after page screen after screen the ubuntu staff seem to understand that people want their OS in a good time frame. Thank you ubuntu

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    After you tell ubuntu when you like your first cup of coffee we get to pick your KB layout...like any other install you can pick from a wide variety of types and locations in a wonderfull non text base manner unlike most gentoo installations or older versions of linux. Unlike most others though ubuntu other than just breaking it down by type gives you sub catagories because it knows you may want to type differently or because your weird and have a UK KB though the same can be said about the americas. That and seeing as how ubuntu originated in The isle of man smack dab in the middle of ireland and the UK i wont complain.
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    After that we jump right into the install process and select our HDD and partitioning. I had trouble at first as i have multiple HDD's and for some reason ubuntu wants to install on a drive other than root or "/" you can remedy this easy i found out by going to "manual" and telling it which drive to put the boot loader on.

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    Like so. remember to set the mount point to "/" or you get into all sorts of trouble. For the most part though especially for people with one hard drive you dont need to worry. If your scared of manual config but want ubuntu simply unplug your HDD's and that will work just as well as ubuntu will have no problem finding them after you plug them back in.

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    After that we jump past partitoning which if i might add is EXCELLENT in ubuntu and i find it personally better than Fedora and suse's approch to a "partitoning guide." It was extremely easy to use and understand and only took about 30sec for you guys who know what your doing :). now however we input our user data a sure sighn that were almost done and on the home stretch easy those antsy hands were almost done ;)

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    After you enter in your info click next for the cup de gra and lets get on with it! Exciting huh?

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    You get like all other distros a verification screen wioth what you want whats going to be partitoned and a frienddly warning that if you did it wrong expect the worst. Not being one easy to fret i clicked install. If you are i suggest you click cancel :)

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    Then we get a BEAUTIFUL install screen and even though ubuntu at this point is using universal vesa drivers apparently people that live on an expensive island in the middle of the ocean like to leave a good impression for us land folk. go ahead look how shiny it is!!

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    After install is complete we have 1 last step a simple reboot and in about 1min to 45sec later your at a pretty boot screen that loads in about the same amount of time.

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    the pretty boot screen i speak of :)

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    After this boot screen your interoduced with some weird amazon congo drum start music that is a true ubuntu original and magically matches the dark burn orange theme quite well. go sound geeks.

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    here you can also go to "select session" to choose KDE Gnome etc..however you wont get very far at first because ubuntu comes with gnome default so youll need to install it more on that later.

    Now that you've logged in using the usn and pass you provided during install your greated with more congo drums and a nice ancient type of gnome that makes you feel warm in fuzzy inside.

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    Ubuntu is about 700-750megs upon install and to my surprise unlike the big boy suse 11 picked up my wireless adapter immediately like fedora did ...go ubuntu.

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    setting it up was amazingly easy type in your personal stuff and connect. Youll be prompted by a flashing DL arrow next to your clock for updates it automatically checks for.

    to my surprise ubuntu picked up all of my hardware which doesn't seem like an easy feat with these small distros these days. most of the time its the big guys that take up 4 GB that get the job done...some of the time. Not ubuntu though easy as cake and pleasant to look at.

    the install process goes suprisingly quick after you tell it to update though it tells you it could take some time. though i bealive this is more for slower computers because anything over 2Ghz seems to take ~5min.

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    After you do that your on your way to installing all of your favorite things in my case that would be KDE.

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    Since ubuntu doesnt have KDE by default it needs to DL just about ever package and of course the core KDE components. these weigh in at about 835mb. However the sources come from multiple servers so the DL isnt that slow and it installs rather quickly being mostly binary files.

    the easiest way to get what you want with ubuntu is to open your terminal and type in the following line. this technique is used for just about everything and given ubuntu's support you rarely run into problems.

    Code:
    Sudo apt-get install yourprog
    for example when i got KDE i typed the following.

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install kde
    or k3b my fav linux burning program

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install k3b
    now to install updates for ubuntu if you miss an update period or simply want to check do the following

    system>administration>update manager

    it will check for updates and give you an install option.

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    easy as pi. now if you want to get creative or want your install to be a serious work station we can install secondary packages.

    this is fun and you do this like so.

    System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager

    This breaks updates and packages down into catagory and program not to shabby and if you want o know what each little guy does if gives you a nice little discriptive pragraph on what exactly the program does. the packages range from kids games like worms in apples kind of stuff to programming code for the cell processor. Whats also amazing is how much ubuntu actually has access to in this screen shot its about 24,695 programs!!!!!

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    I rate ubuntu

    Pro's:
    Quick install
    Short boot time
    AMAZING compatability performance and style
    Huge library of software
    Ease of access for the linux noobie.
    Extremely Stable


    Cons:
    not alot included though to be fair that isnt supposed to be a key feature
    Could have atleast added KDE



    RATING

    9.5/10

    AMAZING OS


    i hope you guys found this guide usefull and i hope it may open your eyes to linux or give you a different perspective on ubuntu seasoned vet or explorer. I'll try to answer any questions you have if i can help but with more reviews on the way i dont know how long ill have this OS ENJOY!!!

    Some of my other reveiws
    Elive 1.6
    Suse 11
    Fedora core 9
     
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    can you see those pics? they were their a sec ago
     
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    Yuppers, I should read this since I wanna try it out.
     
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    i see them.

    love ubuntu man.

    have you got compiz fuzion working yet? any idea on how to get crossfireX going?
     
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    all of them? really?
     
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    How many should there be, I see seven in total.
     
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    no more than 7 ill fix it ina bit sorry guys

    @fits not yet havent really played with it ill look into xfire ati drivers are harder to work with though as i remember
     
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    Nice review solaris :D I always have trouble when burning ubuntu to cd :( anyway I installed it on my little bro's pc to stop him getting virus' and he hated it because he couldn't get windows live messenger plus addon. I'm angry because I spend all day installing and rebuilding his pc so it would work and he threw it in my face.
     
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    Is Ubuntu better for a HTPC or should I stick to WinXP?
     
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    personally it depends on what you use it for....if any OS linux diustro ubuntu i would personally find to be the best one. im going to edit the reveiws to include seperate scores such as

    multimedia

    server

    desktop

    scores however the only problem i forsee is the tv tuner if you tell me whcih one i can probably find drivers for you or walk you through an install :)
     
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    I agree, Ubuntu is by far the best Linux distro I've come across. It picked up the wireless N on my laptop like it was nothing! Other distros could barely handle getting my old Linksys Wireless G PCI card working. If you were bummed about Ubuntu not including KDE, you should check out Kubuntu. I've personally never tried it out because I'm lazy, but it's just Ubuntu with KDE. I don't know if it's review worthy since it's essentially the same thing though.
     
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    Are you using a CD-RW or CD-R? For me nearly every time I try to use a CD-RW something screws up. It usually boots up and tries to install, but then something hangs and it crashes. I've used DVD-R's or CD-R's since then and every burn has worked just fine.

    Regarding siblings, I hear ya. A few years ago I installed Knoppix (before Ubuntu really took off) onto my little sister's comp because she was constantly messing up XP somehow. After I spent most of the afternoon backing up and setting up her computer, she of course found a reason to complain. :shadedshu Eh, that's how it goes I guess.
     
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    fixed the pics :) have fun guys :)
     
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    for kde there is kubuntu
     
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    ya ifugured that out after...i already installed KDE though



    sudo apt-get install KDE



    btw using the command line to randomely DL any program you want....best idea ever!!!
     
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    thanks Sol, I tried to get ubuntu going on my last rig with no success. I've been meaning to try it again, but I guess I forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder:rockout:
     
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    I tried using dvd-R's and RW's :wtf: and its picky about how its installed.
     
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    I'm still waiting for Ubuntu 7.3.31 (The Carnivorous Caterpillar)
     
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    Great review Solaris! I downloaded ubuntu a couple days ago to get my new rig going. I messed up the first cd by not making an image, just copied the iso to disk. :) So now I have a backup iso file if something happens to the first one. lol. I hope to try it out this afternoon and get this rig started.

    I know most programs will run under windows and linux, are there any popular programs you've found that wont run under ubuntu? i.e. some microsoft programs, burning software, games, photo/video editing, etc.
     
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    um it depends..

    for games you can get them to work and actually quite well without emulation. However their is a stipulation


    It needs to be an openGL game

    and you need to have accelerated graphics on

    alot of things are tricky ill admit ill also admit i havent tried very many windows apps..however most things can be delt with and wine can run some of the easier stuff.

    however linux has an equivilent to almost everything thats propriatary

    Open Office is the exact same thing as microsoft office imo...you can do everything power point spread sheets etc....and you can even save them in microsoft format so you can open them with a windows based PC.

    things like burners arent hard to come by either i reccomend what i had above i use K3B
    Code:
    sudo apt-get install k3b
    (you can copy and paste this code into your terminal)

    its a mimic of nero and a very good one thats what i realeased some of utility DVD's on i burned them with that...imo its faster than the windows burning programs iv used.


    though some things you absolutely will not be able to get to run..almost EVERYTHING has a linux substitute...if i didnt test hardware mod it or OC to see if it worked id go linux full time because honestly the only downside is games...but iv successfully got the original Unreal tournament to work and neverwinter nights. :)
     
  21. v-zero Guest

    KDE is horrid (imho). Why get a GNU/Linux distro if you really want a Linux distro - it makes no sense. Anyway for those that want icky KDE loving you can pick up Kubuntu from the ubuntu homepage - so this isn't a valid complaint - now, get compiz running.

    For those interested here is a screenshot of my custom ubuntu install as it stands: [​IMG]
    :)
     
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    this guide is meant to help people or get help...or to inform them...as it is a review by me and i STATE i like KDE than its as valid as my remark because its obviously biased. If you dont like KDE dont take that con to heart and bump it to a 10 in your own mind...this thread or any other review by me isnt necessarily meant to bash what i like and dislike about any linux distro but moreover what i experience and notice.


    o btw love your desktop i cant figure out how to get shiny black..
     
  23. v-zero Guest

    I didn't mean to be obtuse, I was merely stating that if it was KDE you wanted then Kubuntu was what should have been downloaded, just like if you wanted the xfce environment then you would get Xubuntu - anyway it's not important and ubuntu isn't perfect, but it is better than my Windows setup and my Leopard setup, so...
    Thanks for the compliments on my desktop (I'm working on a custom distro of my own so this is a prototype); as for shiny black, do you mean the background or my mac-style dock?
     
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    Nice review of Ubuntu installation -- thanks!

    As previously noted, if you prefer KDE (like me) you can just go straight for the Kubuntu ISO.

    Here's my Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 4.1 Beta, Compiz and VMware Player/Win XP running:

    http://www.kubuntuforums.net/index.php?ind=gallery&op=foto_show&ida=190

    Kubuntu forum is a pretty friendly place for noobs, and has a ton of "problems already solved" in the searchable threads. :cool:
     
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    i meant the dock.....i know xubuntu kubuntu etc were their respective things with KDE and xfce i just used ubuntu because thats what people here about all the time...everyone says ubuntu alot more than kubuntu....and though i understand each version has a dif desktop..i just found it odd they didnt include the others and just change the default of another version is all...im using gnome right now and have been....i like KDE no doubt but its more for testing and stability at this popint because with these reveiws im also testing the stability and tweaks made to 4.0 by the various distros.
     

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