UltimateDefrag version 1 gone freeware.

PVTCaboose1337 · Sep 3, 2008

Mussels said:
to the people reccomending other programs: try ultimate defrag before you go saying something else is better. I use 2.0, and its the best and simplest i've used in a long time, without any extra bloat or unnecessary startup items/services/tray icons

I have tried it. I liked it, but liked Diskeeper better.

Franklinwallbrown · Sep 3, 2008

To each his/her own...

burebista · Sep 6, 2008

Mussels said:
to the people reccomending other programs: try ultimate defrag before you go saying something else is better. I use 2.0, and its the best and simplest i've used in a long time, without any extra bloat or unnecessary startup items/services/tray icons

OK, I give it a shot.

I made some settings in Options (High Performance and Archive)

then in Consolidate Option

Run Consolidate, wait for an hour and so, finished, reboot and waiting for miracle. Nothing. Nada. No speed gains. Where is that blazing fast HDD after this defrag?
Then I do an Analyze after defrag.

Now what? I'm all red now. :banghead:

OK, bottom line, all those defrag program are useless on NTFS. If you feel better do a defrag with whatever program you like but don't expect miracles because you won't see anything.
BTW, Vista64SP1 here.
My 2 cents.

P4-630 · Sep 6, 2008

Auslogics Disk Defrag

It's fast, good, and free
http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag

Vista/XP/2000/2003, 32-bit and 64-bit and dual-core CPU supported.

Wile E · Sep 6, 2008

burebista said:
OK, bottom line, all those defrag program are useless on NTFS. If you feel better do a defrag with whatever program you like but don't expect miracles because you won't see anything.
BTW, Vista64SP1 here.
My 2 cents.

Not if you are dealing with lots of large files. There are certain other situations that it benefits as well. This debate came up many times in the past, and it's already been proven to be beneficial in certain situations. Plus, it doesn't hurt performance, so why no do it?

I use O&O personally.

Mussels · Sep 6, 2008

defrags do not make things faster - they simply stop fast things going slower.

i sure as hell noticed a difference here, i set some of my games to be 'high priority' and others to be 'acrhive'. i then copied each (one at a time) to an external WD 640GB hard drive. THe high priority game went at 65MB/s, while the archive ones did 35MB/s. Sounds like it worked just fine to me.

EastCoasthandle · Sep 6, 2008

burebista said:
OK, I give it a shot.

View attachment 18068

I made some settings in Options (High Performance and Archive)

View attachment 18065

then in Consolidate Option

View attachment 18066

Run Consolidate, wait for an hour and so, finished, reboot and waiting for miracle. Nothing. Nada. No speed gains. Where is that blazing fast HDD after this defrag?
Then I do an Analyze after defrag.

View attachment 18067

Now what? I'm all red now.

OK, bottom line, all those defrag program are useless on NTFS. If you feel better do a defrag with whatever program you like but don't expect miracles because you won't see anything.
BTW, Vista64SP1 here.
My 2 cents.

What do you mean, now what? This post is a bit narrow sighted. You should have defrag your data!

Mussels · Sep 6, 2008

consolidate is actually no different to the windows method, you should use folder/file name for best performance. (exaple: C:/games/crysis - all crysis files will be near each other, reducing seek latency when accessing them thus boosting load times)

spud107 · Sep 6, 2008

iv used o&o for ages in it gets the job done quickly, especially doing multiple drives at once, theres an old version thats freeware too, http://www.majorgeeks.com/O&O_Defrag_2000_Freeware_Edition_d4545.html

Mussels · Sep 6, 2008

O&O always locked up on me if i told it to do anything to several drives at once... if i have 5 hard drives, why cant i defrag them simultaneously? saves me time.

spud107 · Sep 6, 2008

i can only do 3 drives at once, the fourth is another partition on one so prob not a good idea to do that at same time lol, im not sure how the older version copes doing multiple drives though,

Mussels · Sep 6, 2008

well i have 5 drives in my cage, plus the one or two in the system connected (which varies) but it always locked the program up if i had more than 4 going at once. (and thats seperate drives, no partitions)

burebista · Sep 6, 2008

EastCoasthandle said:
What do you mean, now what? This post is a bit narrow sighted. You should have defrag your data!

Mussels said:
consolidate is actually no different to the windows method, you should use folder/file name for best performance. (exaple: C:/games/crysis - all crysis files will be near each other, reducing seek latency when accessing them thus boosting load times)

I defraged my data. I Consolidate, then I run Folder/File name then I ran Fragmented Files only. I lost almost half a day and heat up my HDD just to see the miracle of UltimateDefrag.
As you see after whatever method I used I'm all red and Degree of defragmentation is 68.777%.
Superb. :banghead:

I just read on homepage

disktrix.com said:
After You Defrag & Optimize With UltimateDefrag...
You Won't Believe The Newfound PC Performance You'll Experience!

Yep, I won't believe what I get after defrag so I came here and ask: now what after I ran 3 different methods an I have 68.777% defragmented files instead of:

distrix.com said:
An optimized hard drive can actually give you file performance that actually performs greater than 300% more than the manufacturer's quoted performance of your hard drive. UltimateDefrag gives you that kind of performance.

Anyway for me it doesn't matter. If you feel better use whatever program you like. The results are the same.

PS. What means "narrow sighted"? Sorry I'm not a native English speaker.

EastCoasthandle · Sep 6, 2008

burebista said:
I defraged my data. I Consolidate, then I run Folder/File name then I ran Fragmented Files only. I lost almost half a day and heat up my HDD just to see the miracle of UltimateDefrag.
As you see after whatever method I used I'm all red and Degree of defragmentation is 68.777%.
Superb.
I just read on homepage

Yep, I won't believe what I get after defrag so I came here and ask: now what after I ran 3 different methods an I have 68.777% defragmented files instead of:

Anyway for me it doesn't matter. If you feel better use whatever program you like. The results are the same.

PS. What means "narrow sighted"? Sorry I'm not a native English speaker.

I have no idea what you are talking about. You make claims of performing defrag for files only and a file/folder defrag but only posted results of a consolidation.

burebista · Sep 6, 2008

Man, first I did a consolidate and then when I saw that I'm 68% defragmented I did a File/Folder defrag, then I saw again same 68% defragmentation so I run defrag for files only. Guess what? Same 68% defragmentation.
Maybe I do something wrong but it isn't necessary to be a NASA engineer to make some settings and hit Start button.

Anyway, I uninstall it like others dozen programs that I've tried along many years. For me all do same thing: placebo effect.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Sep 6, 2008

Ill stick with AusLogics Disk Defrag.

AsRock · Sep 9, 2008

burebista said:
OK, I give it a shot.

View attachment 18068

I made some settings in Options (High Performance and Archive)

View attachment 18065

then in Consolidate Option

View attachment 18066

Run Consolidate, wait for an hour and so, finished, reboot and waiting for miracle. Nothing. Nada. No speed gains. Where is that blazing fast HDD after this defrag?
Then I do an Analyze after defrag.

View attachment 18067

Now what? I'm all red now.

OK, bottom line, all those defrag program are useless on NTFS. If you feel better do a defrag with whatever program you like but don't expect miracles because you won't see anything.
BTW, Vista64SP1 here.
My 2 cents.

Like what the hell lol. Never had that issue with any setting and been using it for some time now.

Wile E said:
Not if you are dealing with lots of large files. There are certain other situations that it benefits as well. This debate came up many times in the past, and it's already been proven to be beneficial in certain situations. Plus, it doesn't hurt performance, so why no do it?

I use O&O personally.

Yeah i used to use O&O some 6 more years ago. Umm wounder why i stopped using it.

suraswami · Sep 9, 2008

Subscribed.

I will try out to see how it does.

Thanks.

Eliranos · Nov 8, 2008

i wanted to know how does it work with raid is it able to move it to the end?

AsRock · Nov 8, 2008

Eliranos said:
i wanted to know how does it work with raid is it able to move it to the end?

The pics in the 1st post are Raid 5 with 6 HDD's with 4 partitions.

Works like on a single HDD with partitions in my case.

Binge · Nov 12, 2008

Switched to Defraggler from UltimateDefrag after UD found more fragments after the program finished its defragmentation.

kajson · Nov 21, 2008

I installed UD, the newest version.

I'm using windows Vista, I have a C: disk with 60GiG half used and a 2nd drive with 400GiG, its one harddisk though.

Now my problem is, the D drive will defrag fine, but when defrag C: i cant get lower then 26%....
Is there a way to get a better result? And what kinda defrag with which options should i choose? Any help much appreciated tnx

AsRock · Nov 24, 2008

Binge said:
Switched to Defraggler from UltimateDefrag after UD found more fragments after the program finished its defragmentation.

Both defragers using the same methered ?. There is reasons why i don't defrag all files like being in use. If it's the 1st time i am defraging a OS i shutdown every running program as possble useing task manager.

kajson said:
I installed UD, the newest version.

I'm using windows Vista, I have a C: disk with 60GiG half used and a 2nd drive with 400GiG, its one harddisk though.

Now my problem is, the D drive will defrag fine, but when defrag C: i cant get lower then 26%....
Is there a way to get a better result? And what kinda defrag with which options should i choose? Any help much appreciated tnx

As the 1st quote, all so if you did not already do it is too tell it were you want the files like what should be on the faster part of the HDD and what should be on the slower part of the HDD.

a_ump · Nov 24, 2008

well i didn't try that ultimate thing cause it looked like something that would take time to configure and didn't want to do that tonight, but i downloaded defraggler and it assessed 32mb of fragmented files out of 21gb of used space, i ran it and then analized it like 30 min later and it said 27mb fragmented, downloaded Auslogics Disk Defrag, ran it then analized with defraggler again and defraggler said 1.7mb fragmented,

Auslogics has got my support :toast:

plus it's free, and i set it to highest cpu priority in the program settings it has, and it was done in like 2min. though i'll know how good it really is when i defrag again in a month or so

lemonadesoda · Nov 24, 2008

kajson said:
I installed UD, the newest version.

I'm using windows Vista, I have a C: disk with 60GiG half used and a 2nd drive with 400GiG, its one harddisk though.

Now my problem is, the D drive will defrag fine, but when defrag C: i cant get lower then 26%....
Is there a way to get a better result? And what kinda defrag with which options should i choose? Any help much appreciated tnx

This is because of three things:

1./ Protected archived files. The program doesnt defrag "archive" files. Why? They are data files kept as backups. Not "live" files that require performance. Uncheck the option regarding archive files.
2./ Directories you have chosen NOT to defrag. Like temp directory. Or other things you have selected to ignore. Run ccleaner.com FIRST. Make sure you dont exclude any directories.
3./ Files that are unavailable to defrag because they are already open. Close all other programs before running the defrag, AND, also use this program FIRST http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=76620. Your registry wont be defragged by most defraggers and if you never defragged your registry, it will be in literally THOUSANDS of files and that will impact your statistics (and performance) a lot!

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