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  1. Cordero

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    Overclocking is dangerous for the parts, isn't it? Wouldn't I need to upgrade with even more fans? I'd opt not to.
     
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    agree but meh real men use real cores ... the core i3 might have the edge in per clock performance but it lacks 2 physical cores its a toss up that depends on the gpu its paired with and what game its running
    IE battle field 3 HATES HT
    Wow is CPU bound tho but it also is threaded fore upwards of 8 cores so I would suspect the Phenom II would trouce it there
     
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    revised, with a new gpu:
    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006WYVGC4/?tag=tec06d-20

    and this:
    GIGABYTE GV-R775OC-1GI Radeon HD 7750 1GB 128-bit ...

    and this because the dell doesnt look like it even has an extra connectors from the powersupply and it's shitty
    SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 1...

    total: around $616.74

    changed the gpu because the 2 cheap 6790's had REALLY bad reviews, and the 7750 is neck and neck with the 5770/6770 in most games.So new gpu with less noise and low power use and high oc ability.
     
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    Since you are new to the computing Builders scene I wouldnt overclock. AMD Phenom II X2 BE 555 Unlocked to B55/955 Is Fast enough stock in bootup, shut down, program open and close when combined with a 970 Motherboard and Windows 764bit
     
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    So you're saying I should purchase the computer and just replace those two parts?

    I've actually been looking at some cases. Would it be possible to transfer the parts if say, I did purchase the RaidMax Viper or Silverstone Temjin TJ04-E? I know it's mainly an aesthetic thing, but they're so pretty. :cry:

    How would this setup run WoW?
     
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    The only possible issue that would arise is that if the prebuilts motherboard has a proprietary connector for it's front panel(power on/reset/mic/speaker).
     
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    I'm guessing settings on high to ultra, maybe an effect or 2 at medium, and yea i think this is the easiest path in terms of getting a fast comp for a good price.
     
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    Ah, well I do know that as I get more income, I was looking to expand and that means there'd be a possibility of me having to buy a completely new motherboard just to fit any other case I might purchase. :c
     
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    And still be able to maintain a minimum 20fps? I get around 22fps constantly on League of Legends using this notebook.

    Then again, anything would probably be better.
     
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    Do you plan on OCing?
     
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    Yup. Nearly all the dedicated cards in your ~100 range would stomp that number to the ground. Again, the i3 21xx chips don't necessarily need overclocking. Now if you were looking at raising your budget to say a max of $700, then I would say pickup a z68/i5 2400 combo with a dedicated card, scope's suggestion of the 7750 is PERFECT.
     
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    I'm so lost right now.
     
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    The second post in the thread.

    You guys know so much and are just referring to everything, and I'm following along as best I can and reading the reviews for the products.

    I've seen two viable builds where I buy all of the parts separately, one where I buy a rig and then replace two parts, and according to you all they're all well made and I"m going to have trouble deciding on one.

    For the time being, I'm upping the budget to 600$. :laugh:
     
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    looking at the dell, the motherboard does look standard from the newegg pic so migrating parts shouldnt be a problem.
     
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    OK here. This may help you:
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/2

    On the charts if you choose to compare 2 products, you will see mainly the upper half being for "all-around multitasking" and the bottom half are "gaming" benchmarks.
     
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    There's a lot of opinions here so just take some time to look things over and ask lots of questions....

    Concentrate on the first most important question for yourself:
    Do I feel comfortable building my own PC or do I want to buy something that is OK now but upgradeable?

    Answer that one and all of the folks here will be able to help you accordingly :cool:
     
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    Oh I'm fine with building my own, I'll be viewing multiple guides and receiving help from friends during the installation process. It's just that my vast amounts of computer knowledge are limited to software, and I've had no experience with hardware, so I can't really follow along well on the spec discussion. If left to fend for myself I'd probably end up back with a desktop similar to the one we purchased in 01 that had what, 250mb of ram, if that? I'm sure the integrated card on this laptop is godly compared to that. lol

    I'll just have to take you guys' word for it, I suppose.
     
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    id recommend atleast 600 bux for your budget
     
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    Yeah I said I'd increase it to 600.:rockout:
     
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    OK- just like any construction, you need to start with a good foundation. To build a reliable PC you need a good power supply and the 520watt seasonic will fill that requirement (1). Windows is needed (2) and you will want to have something you like to look at- case(3) So...

    (1)- Seasonic 520w PSU- $59.99 SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 1...
    (2)- Windows 7 64bit- $99 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - Oper...
    subtotal- $158.99
    Now let us know what case you are liking :cool:
     
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