Upgrade aging i7 990x??

[Outback Bronze]

Hi guys,

Just thought id get a few ideas and answers to upgrading my aging i7 990x.

Looking at x99 motherboard and 5930k or 5960x.

The computer is going to be mainly used for gaming.

Money is really no object as I will be claiming it through the business.

Any advice will be taken onboard.

Got a link here with my CPU in it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested

Cheers.

 

[eidairaman1]

How many gcs and othere peg cards you putting in?

 

[GhostRyder]

Hi guys,

Just thought id get a few ideas and answers to upgrading my aging i7 990x.

Looking at x99 motherboard and 5930k or 5960x.

The computer is going to be mainly used for gaming.

Money is really no object as I will be claiming it through the business.

Any advice will be taken onboard.

Got a link here with my CPU in it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested

Cheers.

If you want to strictly game I would consider more the 5930k and 5820K over the 5960X because when it comes to games they all want more single threaded performance and its harder to overclock the 8 core versus the 6 core. If money is no object I would just get the 5930K like I did and do your setup on it with some serious overclocking.

Recent finding I hear put the 5960X as being difficult to keep temp wise under control above 4.4ghz where as the 5930K will keep temps well lower at 4.6ghz and above on top of having a better chance at a higher overclocking range.

 

[Aquinus]

Hi guys,

Just thought id get a few ideas and answers to upgrading my aging i7 990x.

Looking at x99 motherboard and 5930k or 5960x.

The computer is going to be mainly used for gaming.

Money is really no object as I will be claiming it through the business.

Any advice will be taken onboard.

Got a link here with my CPU in it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...review-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested

Cheers.

These two sentences lead me to conclude that you don't need our help. Just find the items with the biggest price tag and you'll do fine. If you actually cared about the dollars being spent, I would say 1150 is your better option for a sensible and efficient gaming machine. If you have money to waste, then just get a 5960X, there is no choice there if you're willing to throw money out the window.

I personally hate the "money is no object" attitude. I find it condescending to people who can't actually afford to have nice things through little fault of their own but that's me. If money isn't an object, why do you even have to ask unless your trying to brag about something? I personally don't find it very appropriate. Normally I wouldn't say this, but lack of description of what you actually want puts more emphasis on this little tidbit and it rubs me the wrong way.

I see a goal to waste money, not a goal to build a good computer. I'm just saying.

 

[Outback Bronze]

These two sentences lead me to conclude that you don't need our help. Just find the items with the biggest price tag and you'll do fine. If you actually cared about the dollars being spent, I would say 1150 is your better option for a sensible and efficient gaming machine. If you have money to waste, then just get a 5960X, there is no choice there if you're willing to throw money out the window.

I personally hate the "money is no object" attitude. I find it condescending to people who can't actually afford to have nice things through little fault of their own but that's me. If money isn't an object, why do you even have to ask unless your trying to brag about something? I personally don't find it very appropriate. Normally I wouldn't say this, but lack of description of what you actually want puts more emphasis on this little tidbit and it rubs the the wrong way.

I see a goal to waste money, not a goal to build a good computer. I'm just saying.

I appreciate your thoughts mate but if I hadn't of said money is no object Id say you probably wouldn't have said those things.

When it comes to a business it becomes tax deductible in which I probably should have stated instead of "Money is no object".

Nobody ever really wants to "throw money out the window" hence this thread had been made to help me decide to see if its really worth it.

My goal is to build a really good computer of course. I just don't want to waste more money giving it to the tax man. Its better off in my pocket or an investment like a good PC.

I really don't see why you would even ask me about bragging as this is for children. This is actually a serious matter for me.

How many gcs and othere peg cards you putting in?

Hi buddy,

Ill be putting my 2x 290s in there.

Cheers.

If you want to strictly game I would consider more the 5930k and 5820K over the 5960X because when it comes to games they all want more single threaded performance and its harder to overclock the 8 core versus the 6 core. If money is no object I would just get the 5930K like I did and do your setup on it with some serious overclocking.

Recent finding I hear put the 5960X as being difficult to keep temp wise under control above 4.4ghz where as the 5930K will keep temps well lower at 4.6ghz and above on top of having a better chance at a higher overclocking range.

Hi mate,

Thanks for your useful reply. I was actually thinking of the 5930k as well.

I was really only considering the 5960x if games in the future will use more and more cores. I would say id have this computer for at least 3 years. My i7 990x has been with me for at least that amount of time and has served me well.

Thanks pal.

 

[Frick]

I don't think that CPU is holding you back tbh.

 

[Naito]

If primarily for gaming, perhaps an 1150 CPU like a 4790K and a Z97 WS board would be a good choice. Should support 2x 290 + soundcard without restricting/sharing any of the PCIe bus. An OC should get you a nice speed boost. I'd imagine the IPC of Devil's Canyon be much higher than that ancient Westmere. Having said that, that 990X should still probably last you at least another year or so. Perhaps invest in some liquid cooling instead of 2011-3?

IF 2011 is a must, I'd go the 5930K.

 

[RCoon]

I don't think that CPU is holding you back tbh.

This.

However if money is no issue, eat your heart out on X99

 

[btarunr]

No, I think you're good. It's a fine 6-core chip.

 

[Ferrum Master]

The only thing he may desire is Sata 3, otherwise... you are good.

 

[btarunr]

You could get a Plextor M6E M.2 SSD, which comes with that PCIe 2.0 x4 adapter. Use that with an NVMe driver during Windows setup.

Plextor M6E has less than $1 per GB pricing.

 

[RCoon]

as this is for children

Only just read this, therefore I change my stance. X99 is a total waste for kids to play games. Unless I'm misunderstanding the "FOR THE CHILDREN!!!" part.

 

[Aquinus]

Only just read this, therefore I change my stance. X99 is a total waste for kids to play games. Unless I'm misunderstanding the "FOR THE CHILDREN!!!" part.

Definitely missed that part. Man, I was growing up and my parents got me a skt478 Celeron (I still have it) with a Radeon 9200 and they said to me, "if you want more or something better, you have to pay for it yourself." I'm not going to judge anyone's parenting skills here because that isn't appropriate, but I will say that teaching the value of something to your kids is important and is something that is very quickly becoming a problem in the US of A (at least in my area,) which is why I bring it up. It's like always replacing your kid's cell phone with the newest, best phone every time they break it or ask for a new one. They'll learn that daddy is always willing to buy the good stuff and I would personally rather that my daughter know the value of something over giving her the best gaming computer possible. I would want my child to know that you get one and if you kill it, you need to replace it yourself otherwise you get the bottom of the bin. Computer parts are expensive so they should hold some value to the person who will be using it.

That's enough talk about parenting though, this is not that kind of forum.

With respect to upgrading, anything you get beyond your 990X is probably going to be a tiny upgrade performance wise. I recommended 1150 and Z97 for two very good reason, it has enough power to do what you want to do with games and more cores won't get you more performance in games (usually,) where higher clocks will. I would suspect that a higher clocked i5/i7 on 1150 would probably out-perform the 990X or 5960X in a lot of games for that reason.

I personally think that for gaming, X99 is like using a Ford F-350 to bring a 42" TV home when you could have done the same thing in a station wagon, mid-size car, or a normal sized pickup assuming all were available to you for a price based on the size. It's simply overkill and it's not getting the job done any faster, consuming more gas/petrol all the while.

 

[RCoon]

I'm reading further and further up this thread to gain some information on what this is for.
You intend to claim a $1000 chip plus MoBo and RAM through a business so that your children/you can play games? If that is correct, that is a misappropriation of funds, and therefore fraud, so this thread should probably technically be locked.

Either that or I'm grossly misunderstanding the information in this thread, and OP probably needs to explain things to me plainly!

 

[Aquinus]

I'm reading further and further up this thread to gain some information on what this is for.
You intend to claim a $1000 chip plus MoBo and RAM through a business so that your children/you can play games? If that is correct, that is a misappropriation of funds, and therefore fraud, so this thread should probably technically be locked.

Either that or I'm grossly misunderstanding the information in this thread, and OP probably needs to explain things to me plainly!

I guess I was running under the assumption that there was a lawful intent to purchase this tower where it would be serving some purpose for a business. I know people that will do this if something is use for their business but for pleasure as well, where gaming isn't the only thing in mind, but as I said before:

Normally I wouldn't say this, but lack of description of what you actually want puts more emphasis on this (money being no object)* little tidbit and it rubs me the wrong way.

I see a goal to waste money, not a goal to build a good computer. I'm just saying.

*: Added for context clarification.

I agree that some (a whole lot) of clarification is required here.

 

[vega22]

I don't think that CPU is holding you back tbh.

i have been telling a mate the same thing about his 980x too.

6 cores, 12 threads and upto 5.4ghz and he has got the 5820 and x99 sat on his desk waiting for ram come next payday xD

on the upside it means i might have a 980x under my phase for a few days soon. i might be busy on the bot if i do

@op

imo your deductible is about the best reason to get the full blown 8 core (well unless you need to render shit and can not off load to gpu). otherwise i would also say get the hex as it will clock better too.

mobo wise i would hang fire, let the dust settle and see who has got it right this time. somebody always drops the ball when new tech comes around and it sucks bigtime if you backed the donkey. give it a couple of weeks, check the forums and see which users are crying about which board and avoid them like the plague. or ebola, which ever scares you most xD

 

[Outback Bronze]

Where the hell did you guys go with "this system is for my children"?? I don't even have kids wtf?

I was referring to what Aquinus said about me opening this thread to brag. I simply stated that bragging is for children. No?

He said: If money isn't an object, why do you even have to ask unless your trying to brag about something?

I said: I really don't see why you would even ask me about bragging as this is for children. This is actually a serious matter for me.

i have been telling a mate the same thing about his 980x too.

6 cores, 12 threads and upto 5.4ghz and he has got the 5820 and x99 sat on his desk waiting for ram come next payday xD

on the upside it means i might have a 980x under my phase for a few days soon. i might be busy on the bot if i do

@op

imo your deductible is about the best reason to get the full blown 8 core (well unless you need to render shit and can not off load to gpu). otherwise i would also say get the hex as it will clock better too.

mobo wise i would hang fire, let the dust settle and see who has got it right this time. somebody always drops the ball when new tech comes around and it sucks bigtime if you backed the donkey. give it a couple of weeks, check the forums and see which users are crying about which board and avoid them like the plague. or ebola, which ever scares you most xD

Yeah the deduction is pretty much the only reason I would get the 5960x. The 5930k seems to be the way to go. I agree with you too mate, ill let the dust settle on the motherboards for a while but how long would this roughly take?

Cheers.

 

[RCoon]

Where the hell did you guys go with "this system is for my children"?? I don't even have kids wtf?

I was referring to what Aquinus said about me opening this thread to brag. I simply stated that bragging is for children. No?

He said: If money isn't an object, why do you even have to ask unless your trying to brag about something?

I said: I really don't see why you would even ask me about bragging as this is for children. This is actually a serious matter for me.



Yeah the deduction is pretty much the only reason I would get the 5960x. The 5930k seems to be the way to go. I agree with you too mate, ill let the dust settle on the motherboards for a while but how long would this roughly take?

Cheers.

Well thanks for clarifying, simply a misunderstanding of a sentence on my part although claiming PC parts on company money for primary gaming purposes is still fraud, unless its primary purpose is for actual work related processing.

EDIT: AH! Unless your business IS gaming!

 

[Outback Bronze]

Well thanks for clarifying, simply a misunderstanding of a sentence on my part although claiming PC parts on company money for primary gaming purposes is still fraud, unless its primary purpose is for actual work related processing.

It will be using it for both. Gaming will be in my spare time which will (unfortunately) probably monopolize the system. I hope this is not too much of a crime.

I do work hard for my money mate and I cant see why I cant claim a new PC for myself that would be setup for both my business and gaming.

 

[RCoon]

It will be using it for both. Gaming will be in my spare time which will (unfortunately) probably monopolize the system. I hope this is not too much of a crime.

I do work hard for my money mate and I cant see why I cant claim a new PC for myself that would be setup for both my business and gaming.

Seems fair game to me, I probably wouldn't get away with quite such a frivolous processor in my field of claims. Although that is how corruption began to spread within communism "Everyone is equal, but I work quite hard, so I should get just a little more than everyone else. But that's OK right?"

 

[Outback Bronze]

So may I ask you what would you do in my position?

 

[RCoon]

So may I ask you what would you do in my position?

I really don't know how businesses debate on things over the pond. Do you have to file paperwork or write any kind of report on why you need it and what justifications there are? That's the kind of stuff I have to do. At the end of the day its your claim system, I don't know how it works, so you're more likely to know what is and isn't possible.

I think the choice is yours and yours alone, my opinion shouldn't affect it

 

[Outback Bronze]

I really don't know how businesses debate on things over the pond. Do you have to file paperwork or write any kind of report on why you need it and what justifications there are? That's the kind of stuff I have to do. At the end of the day its your claim system, I don't know how it works, so you're more likely to know what is and isn't possible.

I think the choice is yours and yours alone, my opinion shouldn't affect it

Yeah ok mate cheers.

I'm in a position where I can get myself a new PC and thought id just throw the question out there over my i7 990x. I know its still a decent CPU but its quite a few generations behind now. I'm still debating on what to do.

 

[RCoon]

Yeah ok mate cheers.

I'm in a position where I can get myself a new PC and thought id just throw the question out there over my i7 990x. I know its still a decent CPU but its quite a few generations behind now. I'm still debating on what to do.

I'd get a new CPU and chipset, if you want SATA 6Gbps and PCI-E 3.0 and all that, that seems very reasonable to me. Even if the machines at work are running fine without a hitch, once general warranty runs out we replace them with newer machines (3-5 years). In your position, I would definitely replace hardware if there are better features that will improve workflow considerably.
The chosen hardware is entirely up to you. Whatever features you really want are the ones you should go for.

 

[Aquinus]

I know its still a decent CPU but its quite a few generations behind now. I'm still debating on what to do.

That's the real question that should have been asked in the first place, without the extra commentary. I think I would wait out and see what comes out of DDR4. I tend to go by the phrase, "don't buy the first generation of a product." I think waiting to see how DDR4 pans out would be smart. It's not like your missing too much with the 990X, but if you were to upgrade Z97 and Devil Canyon is a pretty solid bet for gaming.

I use my tower for work as well, but I don't think I use it for work more than my own personal uses, so I don't tend to declare my office as a tax write off, although I could because it is a dedicated space for being an office. I could, but I don't think it quite qualifies, at least in my mind. I could be wrong though. My views tend to be rather liberal so I don't mind being more cautious when it comes to taxes.