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Upgrading i7 860 (Lynnfield) and Mobo

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  1. LoneReaction

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    Hello everyone, it's been some time since I've thought of upgrading my PC. It seems like CPU improvements has slowed down a little. I've been holding on my to i7 860 for almost 5 years now, and would like to switch to current gen CPU.

    My main purpose of this cpu upgrade is to improve performance in Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5 and the slight speedboost from Sata 3.

    I am thinking of only upgrading the Cpu and Mobo, and keep everything else. My PSU is getting old (bought in 2008) but still works fine.

    The i7 4770 and i5 4760 seems like good choices. I will not be overclocking, so any entry level mobo would be fine.

    Any comments or suggestions would really be appreciated, thank you for reading!





    Processor: i7 860
    Motherboard: Asus P7P55D-E
    Cooling: Noctua U12P SE2
    Memory: 2x 4GB DDR3 1600
    Video Card(s): MSI 580 GTX
    Hard Disk(s): Crucial M500 240GB, 2TB, 2TB, 1.5TB
    Optical Drive: Samsung Super Writemaster
    LCD/CRT Model: Dell u3011 + Dell 2007fp
    Case: CM HAF 932
    Sound Card: Onboard + Logitech Z5500
    Power Supply: Thermaltake 750w toughpower
    Software: Win8 64bit
     
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    Have you considered waiting for a more meaningful upgrade? ;) Is your cooling solution even compatible with 1150?
     
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    I will not be overclocking, so the stock cooler that comes with the cpu would sufficient!
     
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    I recommend a i7-4770 and my sweet Z87-A Motherboard
     
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    sounds solid ^^
     
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    1156/1155/1150 have identical mounting, so a cooler what has been bought in 1156 era, is still compatible with 1150. The stock would be noise as hell, so I don't recommend using that, even if running with stock clocks
     
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    I second that recommendation. I recently bought a Z87-K for an i3 build, and even though it's Asus' cheapest Z87 board, it installed without any issues and is running great. I wanted the Z87-A, but couldn't really justify the extra $30 for running an i3-4130. My last build was also an i3-4130, but with an MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ($140), and that board is nice, but it wouldn't boot with 2400 RAM on XMP setting, which the Z87-K does effortlessly (as well as my P8Z77-V). So this bears out what I've always suspected; Asus boards have the best RAM compatibility, and the best BIOS, and even their AI Suite III software now works perfectly. Z87-A is a great choice...
     
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    you sure it wasn't the second i3 that couldn't handle 2400mhz memory?
     
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    So you don't need a "Z" motherboard. An "H" would do just fine. But, there's no problem going with a "Z" board, especially if others are highly recommending it. I'd reuse the Noctua cooler though.
     
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    can H chipset do X.M.P ?
     
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    Yes. I'm not saying all, but it can.
    OP, I'm pointing to the H87 motherboards, not the H81's.
     
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    Thanks for the replies guys. It's awesome that I can use the Noctua again, great bang for buck :D
     
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    Stock isnt all that loud. No stock cooler i have ever used, had forced me to change coolers from noise.
     
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    Same
     
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    I like my MSI-Z87-GD65 would recommend anytime
     
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    Positive - I was surprised the MSI board wouldn't POST with XMP set, or even when I manually loosened timings, since the board claims to run 3000 MHz RAM. It does run fine at 2133 MHz, so I left it there. Maybe the MSI board just didn't like the HyperX Beast 2400, all boards have incompatibility with a few kits now and then. I prefer Asus because I've never had any issues with RAM on their boards, or anything else for that matter. Of the 3 MSI boards I've owned, all had issues, mostly minor annoyances, but one had a bad overheating problem with the chipset. I was otherwise impressed with the Z87-G45 Gaming board, MSI has really stepped up their game lately, but there's still room for improvement. They really need to quit harping on the so-called "military class" hardware (marketing hype of the worst kind) and concentrate on making the damn thing work properly.
     
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    what kind of boost are we talking about here if it's just for lightroom? would cinebench be a good way to tell or does lightroom not use all cores? why no OC?
     
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    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/108?vs=836

    In the link above, the 6th results (Photoshop CS4) shows in improvement of about 38%. I would hope that Lightroom would have similar improvements. That extra time saved really adds up when you're editing thousands of images a year. In my own unscientific monitoring, when I opened up task manager and looked at individual cores, often single cores would hit 100% for some moments. So even though Lightroom was using around 30% of the CPU, it was maxing out single cores.

    I will probably not OC at the beginning, unless it is really easy. Will definitely try out those fancy Asus OC software. During the Core2Duo era, I overclocked my chip from 2.5ghz to 3.8ghz. On air. It was fun. When I switched to the i7 860, I fiddled with overclocking for a while, but gave up because it was hard to get a good overclock and rock solid stability. Guess I'm just turning into an old man, haha!

    Thinking of i5 4670 or i7 4770 with ASUS H87M-E.
     
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    strange, you want to switch to new cpu for productivity and yet dont plan to overclock whats in my book is pure productivity out of the box.
    more so, you tried it before. if you do care for power consumption just use how it called, when clock is variable like from 2.0 to 4ghz

    edit by the way does hyperthreading helps that application? or higher ghz have more impact?
     
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    Wait what? Overclocking might help a bit, but might be more hassel than he is willing to deal with. Then again, overclocking only does do much these days. Processors are already so fast for everything out there. Threads will definitely help him more than ghz. You seem to have a much different "book" then a lot of people. Not everything needs to be overclocked. Hell, i have a 4770k, and for months i didnt bother clocking it. Didnt really need too.
     
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    It is because of my experience with overclocking that I know raw increases in ghz does not really translate to equal performance increase unless it is for CPU intensive tasks that max out the cpu no matter what (like video rendering or converting video files!). Also, in order to overclock one must normally spend another $100-200 to get a better motherboard, better heatsink. Right now CPUs are so fast that I would rather save that money and put it into my next GPU upgrade!
     
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    got it. my cpu is almost 7 years old and its enough for my daily tasks. so why do you need 4770 then? save more money.
     
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    OP, you may want to wait for "Haswell refresh"??????? You've gone this long.....
     
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    I agree. Wait for a 4790.
     
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    Depends whether LoneReaction-san wants to wait for the newly released Haswell Refresh or just... u know... purchase a Haswell based build as replacement for the time being... so, here's my suggestion of a build. He also mentioned he do not want to OC his CPU so a non-K CPU should be ok.
    - Intel Core i5-4670 CPU
    - any Intel H87 Chipset boards (vary by vendors)
    - Storage, PSU, Optical Drive etc will be re-used.

    @LoneReaction For the graphics card, you can either keep the current GTX580 or get a Leadtek Winfast GTX760 OC 2GD5 VGA Card... but it's your preferences. Hope this helps.
     
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