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Upgrading video card to play high-end games currently have E4400

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by onetymeohnly, Oct 27, 2008.

  1. onetymeohnly New Member

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    This is just to branch off from CDdude55's thread because it was a similar problem. niko084 suggested that I create a new topic to reflect my own CPU's problems and to not create confusion. If you have not read it yet, please refer to this topic at my first post and onward:

    http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=1034577&postcount=84

    Also a word of caution before splurting out processors; in the first quote box contains the link to my mobo's compatibility with processors.

     
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  2. niko084

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    Should just copy that post and paste it into here instead of the link, make it easier :)
    I'll get ya my opinion here in a few minutes got a bit of work to do.
     
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    Thanks, and done:laugh:
     
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    You can buy a nice p35 board(DFI Blood Iron), an e8400 and a gtx260 for around $520. Sell your old board and cpu, and then it's more like $420.
     
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    What is the budget you are looking at?
     
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    I think what I posted in CDdude55's thread pretty much applies here.
    Even more so I think, because you have the 8600GT which is an inferior card to CDdude55's 8600GTS and which is the one I had myself, together with my (still current!) E4300 overclocked @ 3.0Ghz.

    Btw.... if you really think you can go on without changing graphic card for a whole 5 or 6 years..... I'll promise to thank every post of yours for a whole year following! :laugh:
     
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  7. niko084

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    Ya... That's not possible to play games well that are new after the first 3-4 years... Lets step back 6 years now, what did we have... x800? was that out yet? I don't even remember....

    Needless to say, if you want to keep a video card that long, you better be looking at a 4870x2 or GTX280 because that's the only thing that stands the smallest chance.

    You are really far better off buying a upper midrange card like a 4850 / 9800gtx+ / 4870 / gtx260 and sticking with it for a bit until something else comes out in 2 years that costs $200-$250ish, you will spend the same amount of money and keep good performance all the way through.

    Not to mention in the coming years your mainboard and processor will have to take the long road to the trash can...
     
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    JC316 Knows what makes you tick

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    No, go back 6 years and it was the Geforce 4, Radeon 8500, Geforce FX, and Radeon 9700
    series. I picked up an FX5900 for $256 in 2002.
     
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  9. niko084

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    Aww the 9800 wasn't even released yet?

    I can't even remember, but ya that's pretty much the point, even an x800 is all but worthless, x1950xtx is pretty worthless so...
    2900xt is meh alright in the best...
     
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    The 9800 was probably out, but insanely expensive. The 9800 really only lasted till F.E.A.R, MAYBE Oblivion on crappy settings. So, that was 2002 till about 2004 for prime gaming and 2005 for crappy settings. So call it 2-3 years of good gaming life for a video card.

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    Yeah, the 9700 was released in August of 2002 to compete with the Geforce 4 TI 4600. Early 03 was when the 9800 was released.
     
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    In 2001 I had a Pentium 4 1.6Ghz, 256MB RAM, and an MX440 which I think had 64MB vram...
     
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    onetymeohnly,

    Any of the following graphics cards would be suitable for your purpose and would complement your current E4400 CPU without bottlenecking: ATI 4850, 9800 GTX+, GTX 260. They all perform similarly so you can't lose even if you pick one randomly. Personally I'd go with the ATI 4850 because here in the UK it's cheaper than the GTX 260 and usually performs on par or faster than the 9800 GTX+. I have no discrimination towards any of the cards as they are all fantastic cards and to a certain extent equivalent in performance.

    Although I feel that your E4400 is more than up to the task of supporting a new GPU if you are content on changing CPUs I'd get the Q6600. You could get dual core solution such as an E6700 or E6850 as suggested by another gentleman poster and hence leaving you with more money towards a better GPU such as the 4870 X2 or GTX 280.

    But like I said you could randomly select any one of the above mentioned cards even with your current CPU and you'll be set for up to 3 years, also you might want to invest in another 2 GBs of ram because my feeling is that new games like Alan Wake and Far Cry 2 will use a lot of ram.

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    PS. Look out for the 4850 X2 which is around the corner. That is going to be a killer mainstream card!
     
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    I know, I know. Until I read professional reviews I had believed my brother into believing that my 8600gt would last 2 more years. So as silly as it may seem I just doubled the the number in terms of lasting years. Up until a year and a half or two ago I was using a card that I had been using for a long time...something like 5 years?...since Counter Strike 1.3.:eek: I forgot the exact model but it was an ?? I forget.[Edit: Not AMD Athlon, that's a processor stupid]

    From what it looks like, I'll get a gtx260 with the same mobo and I'll wear that down for a few years and when it's time to trash my board (if possible sell it if anybody would want it) and as you said just make another bargain gaming rig that would fit the mainstream cards during whenever that time comes. I know I'll be here at this forum 2-3 years from now asking for your consultations.
     
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    That's probably the best idea if you don't want to spend a ton of money but want to keep good gaming ability. The Gtx260 is better than my HD4850 and even my 4850 will play anything right now.
     
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    Very cool, that's what I'll be going for then. I really appreciate you guys helping me decide which video card to go for, you were extremely helpful and know your stuff :laugh:. Cheers for 2 years of better gaming! :toast:
     

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