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Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by nocrapman, Oct 12, 2008.

  1. nocrapman New Member

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    Hi Guys,
    I need advice for a new build after my Dad's PC died unexpectedly yesterday. He wants a new rig ASAP and I agreed to build one for him. I have one week to do this: Purchase parts and build!
    Functionally the most intensive thing he uses it for is video editing for home videos. With that in mind could you please make some suggestions for a XP prof based PC. The budget $400-500. I dont want to OC this machine as I wont be able to run stability tests or trobleshoot.
    I would like to buy from newegg since shipping to my door is usually 2 days (I am in NY).
    Here's what I need:

    Case
    PSU
    MOBO
    CPU+/-fan or HS
    RAM
    VGA
    HDD

    Please tell me if I am being realistic in this endeavour or is this too little $$ or time to achieve it in...
    Also please make recommendations for any/all parts
    Thanks much!
     
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    Just a quick question before I start really looking, will there be any gaming?
     
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    No gaming at all!
     
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    Sweet ok!
     
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    what you mean died, as in Fried everything, or just the Power SUpply?
     
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    for non gaming systems, some modern onboard video is actually pretty beefy (AMD 780G, Nv 8200)

    On the plus side, its one less hot component to cool, so less noise.

    I agree with JR racing fans suggestions, he's picked the right hardware for a video editing machine - its also very future proof with HDMI, and a vista/blu ray capable onboard video.
     
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    Jrs option has a far, far superior motherboard. A generic intel with intel onboard graphics, is going to be far slower than the version Jr listed.

    Jr's one is going to be better overall, rather than a faster CPU and an inferior motherboard with nearly worthless onboard graphics.
     
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    I dont know exactly what happened.
    But he gets the black BIOS screen on bootup... he's not very tech savy. I will be able to figure out once I actually get there next weekend. My guess is probably a failed HDD!
     
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    ok, fair enough, then how about this motherboard and gfx card(I know the gfx isn't strong, but this build isnt for gaming)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128356

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127367

    $489.93 and I'm pretty confident this will beat JR's build
     
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    Thanks a Bunch Guys!
    These are very helpful suggestions...
    At this point:
    - I am leaning more towards a decent On-board graphics solution for now. If later he wants to add a VGA - there needs to be a empty PCIE slot.
    - Is the inbuilt PS in the Antec case - decent?
    - I found a 500Gig HDD sitting in my stuff, so that saves some money. What should I upgrade ...?better RAM, faster CPU or leave things as they are?
     
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    antec PSU's are decent. One of the few PSU brands that come with a case, that are respectable.


    I really, really suggest the HD3200/phenom setup earlier, if you have extra money, consider spending it on better (quieter!) cooling. If you can get this PC nice and quiet, it'll make it a lot nicer to leave crunching video files overnight.
     
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    This would be highly welcome...
    Any suggestions on that?
     
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    Oh trust me if there was overclocking involved. I would've said an Intel e7300 and bring it up close to 3.4Ghz. And that 8400GS is still just as good as the onboard of Asus 780G board I've chosen. Even at that, if there was light gaming involved, you can add this to my build makes it a little overbudget. It may be worth it FOR NOW but not for future gaming purposes. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814260075

    EDIT: And the board I've chosen has an option for 4 sticks of ram.

    @Nocrapman

    It's nice and all but it's truly an overclocker's chip. 4 cores is still better than 3.;)
     
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    Jr already had a xigmatek CPU cooler (and a good choice) but its certainly a good idea to invest in some quiet fans for the case.

    Find out how many and what size fans it uses, and get some good fans - i prefer nexus fans at 7V or 10V, so look for some fan power adaptors that can manage that (you can get fan controllers with knobs, but i prefer the hard wired ones)
     
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    You could do all your shopping here at TPU and get all or better components that jr listed, at a sub $400 price.
     
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    I don't get it, your suggesting a phenom 9550/780 chipset over a q6600/p31 chipset(which can now easily be upped to a p35 considering he has a 500 gig HD he can use)? It's my understanding the best phenoms, ie. 9850 and 9950 are just now reaching the performance levels of the q6600. What am I missing here?

    A 2.2 gig phenom can even think about keeping up with a 2.4 gig C2Q, or am I wrong?
     
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    I was lookin up a few quick reviews, albeit they were of the Phenom 9600 (old ones with the TLB erratum, not a B3), and at stock clocks its truly not much slower. Matter of like within 8-10 seconds in crunching a divx avi.

    Edit: I read up on it @ Tom's Hardware.
     
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    really...
    can u post a link?
     
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    Thats something to think about!!
    How much dent will it make to upgrade to a p35 based mobo.?
     
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    this is $341 with nice Tri Core performance for dad. i even factored in the shipping on the case. you could even add some extras at this price. maybe a sound card or some half way decent speakers. or a media card reader. whatever you think your dad might like. some new drives or w/e

    i like this build for a parent. for a little bit more he can have all new components, too

    do the old man proud :)

    Proc
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103254

    Mobo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186151

    PS
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006

    Vid Card
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141068

    HD
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148138

    Memory
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146526

    Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147077
     
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