Vista not as bad as people say

[lism]

The OS is more modulair.

 

[Deleted member 3]

Well, I've found out something useful today: Readyboost is actually quite useful!
When I booted my laptop without my USB configured for RB, it actually ran a fair bit slower. Maybe this is because It only has 512 MB of RAM, and the RAM is slow (SDRAM 100).
So, Now I need to find a PCMCIA to Flash Card reader and I can stick in 1 gig of RB without a USB poking out!

As it uses PC100 I would guess it's a P3, Willamette or early Athlon? Why run Vista on such an old machine? (at least my laptop has PC133, pwnd )

 

[Wile E]

As it uses PC100 I would guess it's a P3, Willamette or early Athlon? Why run Vista on such an old machine? (at least my laptop has PC133, pwnd )

He did it just to see what Vista would run like on it.

 

[Error 404]

Yeah, and its a Coppermine. I've never heard of a P3 Mobile with a 133 MHz FSB: can you post a CPU-Z screenshot?

I'm quite happy with vista running on my ancient machine, because it runs faster than XP, and once I get some money I'll upgrade it with a dedicated flash memory drive for my spare PCMCIA slot! Then I can copy Vista onto that, and have "instant" boot.

 

[saadzaman126]

ahh il always hate vista

 

[ex_reven]

ahh il always hate vista

Racist!
Just cus its aero

 

[saadzaman126]

Racist!
Just cus its aero

good one

 

[Error 404]

How big is SP1? If it speeds up Vista then I'll install it onto my laptop, but only if it is below 500 MB.

 

[ex_reven]

How big is SP1? If it speeds up Vista then I'll install it onto my laptop, but only if it is below 500 MB.

Im pretty sure theres no performance gains from Vista to SP1.
Negligible at best.

Sp1 is 434.5mb for the stand alone update.

 

[Nitro-Max]

The only plus side i see to vista is its pretty.

Well xp can be too with a vista mod Inspirat 2 and it wont use no where near as much ram!
xp will run on 256mb of memory iknow this cos my first xp pc only had 256mb and i played games i only later had to upgrade when i signed up for internet use cos then i had to run antivirus firewall etc in the background.
I cant see how vista would better my pc preformace when it swallows a gig of my ram for the operating system.
Even though i have 4gig of ram the only option im left with is to get a 64bit version that is lacking support and has alot more bugs and most of my older games like operation flashpoint and even newer games like armed assault wont run on it the 64bit version is just too much of a head ache and so is waiting for support and bug fixes.

Ive said it before and ill say it again Vista is just a test station for windows 7 to iron out bugs and we are the test subjects for microsoft.

 

[Error 404]

The reason Vista uses about 1 gig of RAM is because it is designed to: Would you rather it uses 1 gig of RAM out of your 4 gigs (3 GB spare is still heaps!), or would you rather it use half that and go and thrash your hard drive with mounds of pagefiling? I think not.
Vista has better memory management than XP, which is why it uses more. Why do you have 4 gigs of RAM? Because you intent to use it. Complaining about it being used is like complaining that your car takes up space in the garage.

 

[saadzaman126]

The only plus side i see to vista is its pretty.

Well xp can be too with a vista mod Inspirat 2 and it wont use no where near as much ram!
xp will run on 256mb of memory iknow this cos my first xp pc only had 256mb and i played games i only later had to upgrade when i signed up for internet use cos then i had to run antivirus firewall etc in the background.
I cant see how vista would better my pc preformace when it swallows a gig of my ram for the operating system.
Even though i have 4gig of ram the only option im left with is to get a 64bit version that is lacking support and has alot more bugs and most of my older games like operation flashpoint and even newer games like armed assault wont run on it the 64bit version is just too much of a head ache and so is waiting for support and bug fixes.

Ive said it before and ill say it again Vista is just a test station for windows 7 to iron out bugs and we are the test subjects for microsoft.

"pretty" i think it looks like sh1% just cause they copied mac... ugh MAC how i hate thee,...

 

[wiak]

vista should run on atleast a dual core with a 690G IGP and 2GB PC6400 in Dual Channel! or higher!
anything less is rape!"

 

[saadzaman126]

yea agreed

 

[Mussels]

vista should run on atleast a dual core with a 690G IGP and 2GB PC6400 in Dual Channel! or higher!
anything less is rape!"

i ran it on an AM2 3800+ dual core, with 2x256 DDR2 400 (CL3) and onboard GF 6150 graphics (64MB)

Vista really aint that hard on resources... unless you're being an ass and running a ton of programs at once.

 

[DaedalusHelios]

i ran it on an AM2 3800+ dual core, with 2x256 DDR2 400 (CL3) and onboard GF 6150 graphics (64MB)

Vista really aint that hard on resources... unless you're being an ass and running a ton of programs at once.

I agree. Vista is like a modified XP really. Not that big of a jump IMO.

 

[candle_86]

MS had a reason to move to XP from 98.. they had to get rid of dos.. no such reason exists for the XP to vista forced move..

in some ways MS have shot themselves in the foot with such a resource hungry piece of bloatware.. the new low power atom aint gonna sit well with it.. in fact no laptop sits well with it.. battery life being the biggest problem..

trog

except Vista brings alot to the table you don't know about. The network protocols have been rewritten from the ground up. The driver libary was rewritten to improve driver compatibilty. DirectX and windows recived there first major overhaul for media/gaming since 1995. Better HD Support. Vista brings alot to the table you'd be aware of if you took the time to reseach windows instead of following the crowd. XP sucked balls untill SP2. And your argument is pointless. Alot of users went from 98 to 2000, anyone in the know did, and SP3 fixed most every compatibilty issue, why was XP made is the better question, its 2000 with a prettier face and a few Windows ME features, yes thats right windows ME features.

 

[Error 404]

i ran it on an AM2 3800+ dual core, with 2x256 DDR2 400 (CL3) and onboard GF 6150 graphics (64MB)

Vista really aint that hard on resources... unless you're being an ass and running a ton of programs at once.

Use ReadyBoost with it, and you'll notice a speed increase.
Is it true that Vista Ultimate uses more resources by default than Home Premium?
Oh, and with this guide: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2110595,00.asp : i killed 50 MB or RAM hogging services!

 

[Guarana]

I'm still debating on wether or not to put vista into the new machine I'm building. The new machine that won't be built until August when I get back to the states from Iraq. I've been really debating, should I go with vista, to put Vista BORG Ed or MS's horrible opperating system. It's a tough call.

 

[francis511]

I'm still debating on wether or not to put vista into the new machine I'm building. The new machine that won't be built until August when I get back to the states from Iraq. I've been really debating, should I go with vista, to put Vista BORG Ed or MS's horrible opperating system. It's a tough call.

Is vistaborg released then ?

 

[DrPepper]

Use ReadyBoost with it, and you'll notice a speed increase.
Is it true that Vista Ultimate uses more resources by default than Home Premium?
Oh, and with this guide: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2110595,00.asp : i killed 50 MB or RAM hogging services!

Tbh I don't find gaining 50mb advantageous since vista uses the RAM efficiently

 

[craigo]

except Vista brings alot to the table you don't know about. The network protocols have been rewritten from the ground up. The driver libary was rewritten to improve driver compatibilty. DirectX and windows recived there first major overhaul for media/gaming since 1995. Better HD Support. Vista brings alot to the table you'd be aware of if you took the time to reseach windows instead of following the crowd. XP sucked balls untill SP2. And your argument is pointless. Alot of users went from 98 to 2000, anyone in the know did, and SP3 fixed most every compatibilty issue, why was XP made is the better question, its 2000 with a prettier face and a few Windows ME features, yes thats right windows ME features.

candle...understands and unlike me has the patience to explain this still after all this time.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

"pretty" i think it looks like sh1% just cause they copied mac... ugh MAC how i hate thee,...

And there is the argument about copying MAC's again.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

I'm still debating on wether or not to put vista into the new machine I'm building. The new machine that won't be built until August when I get back to the states from Iraq. I've been really debating, should I go with vista, to put Vista BORG Ed or MS's horrible opperating system. It's a tough call.

Do you just say that Microsoft has horrible operating systems because you listen to everyone else bitch about how they hate Microsoft for a reason that they dont know themselves? Or do you actually have a reason to dislike their OS's? If the latter, why not just go Linux or Mac?

 

[Triprift]

Heaps of ppl just listen to negative comments and assume vista is bad without even trying for themselves.