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  1. AphexDreamer

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    So I drained my loop tubing is pretty green but I was able to rub the ends off. So how do I go about this? Clean or replace tubing? Clean cpu block and rad? How?
     
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    vinegar works good on copper. put silver kill coil in your loop next time and keep it away from sunlight :)
     
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    I added Biocide but I guess not enough. I 'll like twice the amount. I guess more is good in this case?
     
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    Try boiling the water you use first, use a saucepan and boil it for 10 mins or so, remove from the stove, cover and allow to cool for 10 minuets then mix with you coolant concentrate/biocide.
    Store the excess in a sterile bottle, sterilise with 1/2 teaspoon bleach per litre (quart), leave in for 15 minuets, rinse with clean water.
     
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    Is this to clean the tubing or or just what to do before adding water?

    I ordered new tubing and a kill coil. Is it ok to have a kill coil and biocide in the loop together?

    I'm using distilled vinegar and water to clean all the parts this ok ?
     
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    Kill coils are a gimmick IMHO as I've used them before with no such luck. I even resorted to buying a gram or pure 99.9999% silver and still no luck. Your best bet is to toss the tubing and get a scrubbing tool that fits the blocks and such and clean by hand. After that If you use distilled water and say half a fluid ounce of colidial silver ( you can get it from health food stores) and I garrentee you will have zero problems with any typy of growth in your water loop.. Despite some saying it turns the water a slight yellow color I have had no such problem. I can take a picture of my water tank with the above said running for over a year if you like to show you the water is crystal Clear as it was a year ago.

    Once alge takes hold it will keep growing back.. I have a salt water reef tank with live rock and after sitting in a shed outside dry for a few years in the summer and winter it didn't take long for the shit to start growing back so don't bother with vinegar unless its for the block but the tubing just toss it and buy new stuff.
     
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    Just for some clarity you want me to scrub the blocks, rad and pump using colidial silver or use colidial silver in my running loop with the water or both? Also since I bought can I just have the silver coil in my loop as an added benefit or just don't use it at all because risk of metal contamination with copper or what have you...
     
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    No just clean the parts however you want then add the liquid colidial silver to the new water.. Fill the loop and leave some free space in the res and like I said add the colidial silver about half a fluid oz and then forget about it.. You can also add the kill coil sense you already have it.. Thing is a kill coil doesn't have much surface area but colidial silver floods the water with silver ions and that's your best defence ;)
     
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    use distilled water and add a teaspoon of bleach per gallon of water no need for fancy things like bio drops or silly kill coils good old bleach is fine and completely harmless in low concentrations
     
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    The rad just fill it up with vinegar and let it sit all night then flush with lots of water and then fill with distilled water... Shake the crap outa it over the kitchen sink and repeat till your happy there isn't any vinegar left in the rad then assemble the unit and you'll be golden for a long time.
     
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    Are their different types of colloidal silver I should look out for or any one I find will be good? Also If I do this I guess I can skip out on the biocide? And again no metal corrosion will result from this?
     
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    Nope just the colidial silver from a heath hut where you buy all sorts of vitamin and minerals.. Colidial silver is just that.. Distilled water with a high concentration of silver ions.. You can mix it in water and drink it lol.. Actually that's what its for haha.. But no issues just using it and distilled water.. Don't need that biocide shit because how silver ions work is.. Algae is alive and eats.. It eats the silver and it plugs up its bum hole so it can't crap and this dies lol.. Really its the best solution to never having a white film cover your acrylic parts or any parts actually.
     
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    Since I read vinegar can be bad for plastics think I can also soak my pump in colloidal silver to sanitize?

    Thanks tons btw.
     
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    NP and no go ahead and soak the pump in vinegar, its good for hard water build up and has such a low level concentration of acidity it won't hurt..
    The colodial silver is just the preventative for crap growing in the loop.. Use any cleaner yo want to but I personally use vinegar..

    You can drain the loop of water and fill it with vinegar and run it all day... Its not going to hurt anything.. If anything the constant flow will break up tiny hard water deposits in the rad.. I did that trick a year ago or so and after telling you what to try I've never needed to pull my loop apart for service at all.. Like I said its as clean as the day I cleaned it and its been well over a year already.

    Edit: the kill coil on its own I was cleaning a few times a year until I added the colidial silver
     
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    Well ICDiamond also stained my bran new block in about 3 months. Sigh...[​IMG]
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    CPU is a bit stained not as bad as the block though.

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    Someone recommended that to me years ago, but when I went to buy it it was soooo expensive! I found an alternative that works just as well, cooper based pool algaecide. It works in exactly the same way as silver, but you can get a 1gt jug for about $15 from your local pool supply and have enough to last you a lifetime. You just have to make sure it is the cooper based kind, not one of the chemical based algeacides. The fluid will be a deep blue color, but when you add it to your loop, you add so little it doesn't change the color of the water.

    Yeah, IC Diamond is junk. They sent me a free sample, it stained the base of my Ultra-120 in just a few days of use. I threw it away.

    IIRC, Mussels had issues with it pitting one of his coolers. IC Diamond asked him to send them the heatsink so they could see what the issue was, and then promptly lost his heatsink and then tried to lie and say they never receive it. Then they tried to lie and say the pictures of all the pitting blocks were all photoshopped and multiple members of TPU and other forums was conspiring against them to make them look bad...

    Then newegg pulled IC Diamond because of all the customer complaints.

    Moral of the story: Throw that junk in the trash.
     
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    I'd second that opinion.
    Not a big fan of kill coils - the surface area is minimal to say the least. I personally use pure silver plated fittings (Bitspower) and a silver bar.
    The biggest issue is the maintenance schedule. If you wait until there are obvious signs then it's too late. By the time the reservoir/lines show signs of needing attention the waterblock pins/channels will be clogged. I'd recommend flushing and refilling the system every 6 months - it also helps with checking O-ring conditions.
    There is no substitute for elbow grease on a far-gone loop, but in future it's a good idea to drain the system at six monthly intervals, refill with de-ionized water and run the loop then flush it and refill ( if you have a radiator leaking solder flux residue I'd recommend a reverse flushing also - just swap inlet/outlet hoses on the pump(s)). A few drops of household bleach in 1-2 litres of distilled water should maintain the system between maintenance cycles.

    For possible interest I had posted a guide at Techspot - Any help with radiator chassis compatibility for mainstream cases I haven't listed is greatly appreciated.
     
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    Price on the colidial silver is cheap now a days..
    Copper sulfate is pretty much what they use in pools.. We use it in marine fish tanks when fish get parasites.. It kills the bugs as well as algae and biological system but turns the water a slight yellow in color.
     
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    a bromine tablet in the res would also do the trick you don't need any speciality "water cooling snake oil cure alls" just the same stuff people have been putting in there pools for years
     
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    i use antibacterial soap, car antifreeze and deionized water. never had an issue
     
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    What paste should I use?
     
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    personally I use MX4 I gave that icy diamond the benefit of the doubt and its frankly crap
     
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    Stay away from transparent tubing. Water (just water) in my loop is clear and is about a year old.
     
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    you guys think I've damaged the performance of my block because of the stain/scratches or does it merely just look bad? I'm going go out and get some MX4 though. Thanks for the input.

    Wait clear tubing is bad? I ordered me some more clear tubing, I thought it would be better to go with clear so I can see if algae builds up again.
     

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