Ways to persuade my father to let me build a PC

[ShadowFold]

Yeah, thing is he'll probably refuse to give me any hot food for a week or so lol, he'd also end up cutting me off from the internet knowing him.
Also he might use it sometimes IE when he breaks his laptop from work lol.

Call child services if he refuses to feed you lol

 

[crazy pyro]

Lol, he'd feed me just nothing hot/ he'd make me cook myself and I would have to learn at high speed.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Yeah, thing is he'll probably refuse to give me any hot food for a week or so lol, he'd also end up cutting me off from the internet knowing him.
Also he might use it sometimes IE when he breaks his laptop from work lol.

no hot food for a week? LOL how old are you? 5??? pick up a frying pan -some veg/sunflower oil & some pork chops from the local supermarket.

now the cutting off of the internet, yeah thats a really heart stopper.

Unless your a real geek who does nothing but troll forums all night - shouldnt be much of a problem - he might cut the net for a week or 2 but i doubt he'd do it permanently....


my dad on the other hand would & Ive not had use of 'home' internet for almost a year n a half.....

 

[Megasty]

Hell, some fathers you guys have Me & my lil' brother would throw a friggin party if my nephews wanted to build a rig. Being young these days must be nice. I was in my late 20's when the Tandy junk was coming out. Anyway every father is different when it comes to expenditures. I've been a dad for 30 years now - for the most part we get a kick out of our kids disobeying. It's a rite of passage. If you want it badly enough you get it the way you want it anyway. Sorry to let the cat out of the bag like that but it's just too true.

He may have some real concerns like the bugs that come with building a rig for the first time or he just may want you to get something that will work. But like everyone else said, YOU will be using it, not him. If you came to this site then you pretty much know what you want & you won't be satisfied by wasting your cash on some pre-built garbage. I say just go ahead & build it. While he's yelling at you, don't forget that he'd be telling the guys at work the same story & having a hell of a time.

 

[crazy pyro]

He's just being a right dick about everything at the moment so it's definitely a good idea not to bring it up.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

don't forget that he'd be telling the guys at work the same story & having a hell of a time.

well thats a good way to reach your 'critical Aclaim' - everyone will know you have: No hot food, No internet but hey you got a kick ass PC.

& if your dad does brag about the 'no hot food & internet' thing at work, im sure his work mates will be more or less in your favour & have a few words with him.

Its not right for him to 'chastise' you like that. your not doing anyone any harm - its your own money your spending.

sheesh If these are the steps your dads willing to take for such petty matters then id hate to think about what he'd do with more 'serious matters'

 

[Megasty]

I'd actually say he'll have it fairly easy if he gets off with the 'no hot food & internet'. My parents wanted me & my wife to get married a week after I turned 19...I waited until 2 weeks after. The bums dropped their last kid on us for 'early parental training' as a punishment. To this day, my baby sister thinks that her sis-in-law & oldest brother are her mom & dad.

The punishment always fit the crime, but they was just being plain lazy. I really don't care about that anymore but parents can be ridiculous at times when coming up with punishments. 'No hot food' is a bit extreme for a computer but to each his own.

 

[newconroer]

that SUCKS but I know some parents can be 'difficult' to put it bluntly - their not willing to take risks etc etc. but if your REALLY confident that you CAN do it - then you have to push your parents asside for one second - do the job & then show them the end result. just make sure you fit everything correctly because if u mess it up, you will infuriate your dad even more & also yourself because your out of pocket & your dad wont let you hear the end of "I-told-you-so's"


my parents were like that once. but you gotta force their hand otherwise you'l never have an opinion at the family table.

I have 3 qualifications in I.T hardware support - 4years of studying -

I buildt the 3 machines that are in my house - Mine, my backup & my mums pc

Ive restored COUNTLESS numbers of both old & new machines dating back to an Intel SX/DX I/II - Ive had COUNTLESS call outs by Family/Friends/Family Friends & A few calls from small private companies to fix their pc's yet when my dad said he wanted a new pc buildt - he wouldnt let me any where near it because 'I might break something'

you really have to push otherwise they wont jump

Right right, because putting together a gaming computer really shows your parents that you are 'capable' and 'mature.' And that they can put full trust in you that you're ready for the big real world, because you, ;gasp; put together a computer!

Come on, you guys keep going on telling him to deceive his own father over a bloody computer. He's already allowed to purchase the parts he wants, and there's someone that will put it together, as per his dad's wishes.


So let's see. He lives in his dad's house. He's therefore under his dad's LAW.
He pisses off his dad, he loses the computer...

Is there some alternative here that we're all missing?

Why is this still going?

Lordie Lordie, as if it's not bad enough we got 'counselors' and 'teachers,' stupid high school peers, music and television pressuring kids into disobeying their parents, now they get it on computer tech forums as well. Haha, brilliant.

 

[Benno]

Right right, because putting together a gaming computer really shows your parents that you are 'capable' and 'mature.' And that they can put full trust in you that you're ready for the big real world, because you, ;gasp; put together a computer!

Come on, you guys keep going on telling him to deceive his own father over a bloody computer. He's already allowed to purchase the parts he wants, and there's someone that will put it together, as per his dad's wishes.


So let's see. He lives in his dad's house. He's therefore under his dad's LAW.
He pisses off his dad, he loses the computer...

Is there some alternative here that we're all missing?

Why is this still going?

Lordie Lordie, as if it's not bad enough we got 'counselors' and 'teachers,' stupid high school peers, music and television pressuring kids into disobeying their parents, now they get it on computer tech forums as well. Haha, brilliant.

I think there's something that you're missing. The guy that his dad wants to get to build the computer for him is a dumbass And he'd much rather build it himself. I would too. Where's the fun in buying the parts and giving them to somebody to build for you?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Right right, because putting together a gaming computer really shows your parents that you are 'capable' and 'mature.' And that they can put full trust in you that you're ready for the big real world, because you, ;gasp; put together a computer!

Come on, you guys keep going on telling him to deceive his own father over a bloody computer. He's already allowed to purchase the parts he wants, and there's someone that will put it together, as per his dad's wishes.


So let's see. He lives in his dad's house. He's therefore under his dad's LAW.
He pisses off his dad, he loses the computer...

Is there some alternative here that we're all missing?

Why is this still going?

Lordie Lordie, as if it's not bad enough we got 'counselors' and 'teachers,' stupid high school peers, music and television pressuring kids into disobeying their parents, now they get it on computer tech forums as well. Haha, brilliant.

Oh Dear....

well - I can take this in many ways either a personal attack against me, Or maybe that you've somehow misunderstood my post.....

Right right, because putting together a gaming computer really shows your parents that you are 'capable' and 'mature.' And that they can put full trust in you that you're ready for the big real world, because you, ;gasp; put together a computer!

^That wasnt the point i was trying make - actually if you've read properly I have not mentioned or linked anything to 'MATURITY'. my point was that he's a big boy, he has his own money so its up to him how he wants to spend it so long as it makes HIM happy regardless of what anybody says - they havent got the right. his dad should understand that, so long as the moneys not blown on something thats totally impractical like £800's worth of Alcohol.

Come on, you guys keep going on telling him to deceive his own father over a bloody computer. He's already allowed to purchase the parts he wants, and there's someone that will put it together, as per his dad's wishes.

So let's see. He lives in his dad's house. He's therefore under his dad's LAW.
He pisses off his dad, he loses the computer...

Is there some alternative here that we're all missing?

^As hes already mentioned - the people working down at the shop aint exactly what he would call 'experienced' &'trustworthy' On top of that its gonna cost him £30 to get it put together & if not that place then at another more experienced & trustworthy place which charges £60 to put it together when hes already drawn up a spec list & has mentioned that even £30 is critcal to his build because he'd have to swap out the CPU for something cheaper.

tell me - are you gonna paypal him £30 or £60 to cover his costs? because his dad sure aint - EVEN THOUGH ITS HIS 'DADS' WISH'S THAT HE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE PUT IT TOGETHER. - I would rather go against my own dads wishes to save ££££ - £30 is more or less half a days salary £60 is a days salary with just about enough money to spare for lunch....

Lordie Lordie, as if it's not bad enough we got 'counselors' and 'teachers,' stupid high school peers, music and television pressuring kids into disobeying their parents, now they get it on computer tech forums as well. Haha, brilliant.

^I think youve seriously missunderstood. & need to think about stuff more before you click the submit key because not everyone here is 'just hitting puberty' & theres no need to be going around insulting half the users in the forum

 

[Thrackan]

After reading the last page, I got a different approach you might be able to try:
Make a wager with your dad. If you don't succeed, ie comps not working, you pay him the same amount of money (30 quid?) that it takes for the shop to build it
If you do succeed (make it an easy wager) he's gonna cook you something extra good or summit.

Don't make it too humiliating for his side of the bet and if he's slightly into it, you're sure to come out a winner.

 

[AsRock]

Tell him you pay for it if you screw it up.. Maybe offer that any extra costs you will pay for but do keep your promise if the worsed happens as you could gain or loose. But don't lie as i am sure he not stupid and probaly tried it with his own perants at some point so he be on you before you start. Lieing is not good for a relationship, But if he will not let you buy your own computer with YOUR money.

I never had the issue with my dad due to my brother having a 486 some many years ago . What happened was i messed windows 3.1 up on his comp and when he found out he made me fix it so i did took me a while as i had to find some were i could get Windows 3 from some were.

In the end I fixed it up with Win 3.11 and from there on he had me building them for him and my mother. He knew i was good with fixing and breaking things and his idea could of made the issue worse as i was young and foolish but since then i have been building them for who ever wants one and actually started a busines in the UK.

I was the kind of person who would take any thing apart just to see how it worked even if it was working lol.

 

[Thrackan]

Heh, I started off with my own 486 because my dad didn't like me constantly playing on his PC
Now, a lot of years later, I'm trying to explain to my dad why and how I'm trying to wire up a 5" LCD screen to a mini-itx board

 

[crazy pyro]

Haha, the wager idea sounds good, take his christmas present hostage as well maybe, oh wait no since my new keyboard will be coming from him possibly.

 

[AUTOgod]

my first PC came from some useless tosspots at a shop called "special reserve". it was an ASUS K8v with 1GB ram, an AMD athlon 64 3400+ and a 6800LE. it spent more time with them than it did with me. firstly, it kept blanking and had to be forced off at the wall socket. their solution was a reinstall of XP. naturally, since they didnt even try, it was still malfunctioning. 2 weeks later it turns out it was the graphics card. when they got a replacement, they had ordered a 6600GT. 2 weeks later it was back again for another issue, and i see the suspect 6800LE for sale in a suspect plastic package for £200! after 3 months, i already felt i knew more than them.7 months from new, the motherboard crapped out and was sent off to their head office. better treatment from there, but the delivery company (DHhelL) smashed the case. a week after they replaced the case after "testing". 9 months in, the dvd drive crapped out. 2 weeks later, i call to fin d out what was taking them so long. it turns out that the useless ass hadent even ordered a replacement.
2 weeks later it was fixed also, a woman had called about the case of her new computer being bent and broken. then, 1 month later, they were in receivership (bankrupt). probably linked with their disgraceful treatment of the customers, being completely full of themselves, and recycling broken parts.

in short, 6 months of a store bought warranty, and i already knew better than them and could have done a better job myself, and would have if it werent for the warranty. i now fix it myself, and will never trust a store again.

just the other day my mate was looking for a laptop (cursed propietary tech, why arent there parts lol) and the guy said that a 9600m GT could run crysis warhead at full spec, immediately showing his ineptitude and complete lack of any knowledge. my mate said his budget was about £900, but the incompetent salesman took him to a £1800 macbook pro.

my advice: never trust anyone other than yourself.

 

[paulm]

my first PC came from some useless tosspots at a shop called "special reserve". it was an ASUS K8v with 1GB ram, an AMD athlon 64 3400+ and a 6800LE. it spent more time with them than it did with me. firstly, it kept blanking and had to be forced off at the wall socket. their solution was a reinstall of XP. naturally, since they didnt even try, it was still malfunctioning. 2 weeks later it turns out it was the graphics card. when they got a replacement, they had ordered a 6600GT. 2 weeks later it was back again for another issue, and i see the suspect 6800LE for sale in a suspect plastic package for £200! after 3 months, i already felt i knew more than them.7 months from new, the motherboard crapped out and was sent off to their head office. better treatment from there, but the delivery company (DHhelL) smashed the case. a week after they replaced the case after "testing". 9 months in, the dvd drive crapped out. 2 weeks later, i call to fin d out what was taking them so long. it turns out that the useless ass hadent even ordered a replacement.
2 weeks later it was fixed also, a woman had called about the case of her new computer being bent and broken. then, 1 month later, they were in receivership (bankrupt). probably linked with their disgraceful treatment of the customers, being completely full of themselves, and recycling broken parts.

in short, 6 months of a store bought warranty, and i already knew better than them and could have done a better job myself, and would have if it werent for the warranty. i now fix it myself, and will never trust a store again.

just the other day my mate was looking for a laptop (cursed propietary tech, why arent there parts lol) and the guy said that a 9600m GT could run crysis warhead at full spec, immediately showing his ineptitude and complete lack of any knowledge. my mate said his budget was about £900, but the incompetent salesman took him to a £1800 macbook pro.

my advice: never trust anyone other than yourself.

Just some friendly advice: check the date on threads you post in.

 

[hat]

did you ever get the pc built crazy pyro?

 

[zithe]

did you ever get the pc built crazy pyro?

I'd say so. His current PC specs seem pretty close to the stuff described in the first post.

 

[crazy pyro]

I took it to the local shop who put it together for £40, I know how to assemble/ disassemble it entirely except for taking the mobo out the case and doing anything to the CPU. My dad hasn't realised that I've learned how to do all that though but when I next buy components I'll put them in myself (although I'll probably get a friend to show me how to fit a processor).
This is an auuuuld thread, no idea why this reappeared.

 

[CDdude55]

I see the system came together nicely.

Hopefully i can get a GTX 285 when i get a job, the rest of my system is set.

 

[crazy pyro]

Apart from my POS maxtor drive dieing on me the other day it's gone well, I'll be waiting to see if it's something else though.

 

[Fleck]

Maxtors are no good. I don't trust Maxtors, Hitachis or Seagates. Rollin with WD 4lyfe, son.

 

[D007]

I'd say ask him to tell you what pc he wants to get..
then you find out what each individual component in that pc is..
and show him what you could build for the same amount of money..

also showing him the true value of the generally premade garbage, should do it.. XD

good luck..lol

 

[crazy pyro]

I got it built and it's happily going along, you can STFU Fleck, my replacement drive is a hitachi.

 

[n-ster]

why so aggressive pyro? Happy you have your rig I'm going to have to do that soon, but it'll probably go well since my dad himself being noob built 2 PCs together, me being his assistant... My problem probably lies in letting me buy the parts I choose and letting me get it in the 1st place (you know... studies first)

Hey btw how old are you? I'm 16