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Discussion in 'World Community Grid (WCG)' started by W1zzard, Oct 19, 2010.

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  1. Phxprovost

    Phxprovost Xtreme Refugee

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    i completely understand what your saying, but you need to understand that alot of people might not be able to do that due to restrictions at jobs, power bills, debts, familys, w/e. I understand trying to limit the ease in which one can obtain it, but if you leave it on the high end its pretty much going to boil down to saying thanks for doing all you can to help but you just dont have enough money invested in hardware for me to activate a 100 pixel gif on your profile :rolleyes:
     
  2. Chicken Patty

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    The only thing that will bother me is for those who really do crunch consistently, and give the utmost dedication they can not be able to have a badge because they are too young to work, or are going through a financial struggle, etc. Not everybody has money to have a higher end rig or even a rig that will churn out 50k every 28 days. If they can crunch consistently even if they do 500 PPD with their toaster oven, to me they deserve a badge. Just my two cents though.

    I personally think 50k is tooo much! However, I am willing to let every one vote and pitch in to decide the right amount. It's a group decision, not just mine or somebody elses. So let's hear it fellas.
     
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    I get it. Yeah it sucks for some people, but its not as if its permanent. Keep at it, work through whatever is holding you back, and when you are able to meet the req, the badge will be waiting.

    Before I messaged W1z out of my concern earlier today it was 100k/28days and maybe 3 people were concerned or even aware.

    Im merely voicing my opinion. By all means add a poll and see what everyone else says, although I think we all know what the poll will say.
     
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    Honestly, I'd like to see what the team wants it to be.

    I'm all for a poll.
     
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    This table is all members that have obtained 100,000 points sorted by the 'Last 28 Days'.

    Column 1
    0 Team Rank Name Yesterday 2 Days Ago Average Last 7 days Last 28 Days Total Credit
    1 2 Mindweaver 20,920 19,050 18,898 127,102 561,923 6,428,684
    2 5 msgclb 12,382 11,670 12,627 80,530 383,520 4,832,963
    3 28 mjkmike 14,620 13,105 12,770 81,404 366,925 1,220,424
    4 4 GREASEMONKEY 7,701 6,728 7,209 47,933 285,853 5,678,466
    5 3 dustyshiv 12,269 9,219 10,005 71,148 278,248 6,327,231
    6 6 bogmali 7,315 10,488 8,071 57,034 235,564 4,402,394
    7 14 ERazerHead 9,360 8,911 8,454 59,674 227,035 2,279,170
    8 1 MetalRacer 9,255 8,053 8,766 57,393 210,540 6,558,056
    9 12 Niko084 7,430 5,936 7,134 46,406 209,550 2,683,653
    10 27 kpresler 3,152 3,490 5,453 32,566 186,183 1,423,513
    11 18 KieX 8,438 8,509 7,783 52,101 182,961 1,732,904
    12 31 MStenholm 5,010 3,981 3,729 23,636 160,350 1,105,932
    13 8 twilyth 7,019 7,064 6,631 44,534 148,383 4,143,394
    14 9 HammerON 4,528 5,724 6,820 44,276 147,035 3,958,576
    15 113 up2 Lampmaster 5,004 6,152 4,193 27,542 134,833 135,315
    16 19 Velvet Wafer 5,596 4,897 4,875 33,797 130,257 1,721,921
    17 15 Chicken Patty 9,579 11,006 7,040 52,513 121,914 1,944,758
    18 24 T-Bob 4,566 2,369 2,645 18,929 99,930 1,586,979
    19 43 Trigger911 3,537 3,408 3,085 22,037 98,680 601,580
    20 21 theonedub 3,507 3,676 3,330 22,146 96,091 1,693,720
    21 26 p_o_s_pc 5,268 3,970 3,494 22,910 92,432 1,423,643
    22 51 toast2004 5,056 4,650 2,524 20,711 91,045 475,282
    23 25 FordGT90Concept 3,620 2,607 3,081 20,747 88,948 1,510,738
    24 61 Soylent Joe 780 1,995 1,718 10,697 72,251 336,781
    25 29 Supreme0verlord 2,863 2,894 2,565 17,432 72,109 1,118,710
    26 17 dhoshaw 2,629 2,677 2,363 15,445 67,916 1,746,905
    27 57 garyinhere 3,825 4,015 2,770 20,451 67,870 394,784
    28 106 dank1983man420 1,970 2,398 1,617 11,169 64,962 150,153
    29 50 mosheen 1,072 954 1,624 10,137 61,254 480,157
    30 23 3xploit 0 0 0 0 55,547 1,600,471
    31 59 BarbaricSoul 837 496 1,413 8,484 53,310 357,958
    32 38 twuersch 2,552 1,998 1,545 12,050 49,604 702,936
    33 20 Jizzler 2,003 2,450 1,917 13,380 48,765 1,700,137
    34 11 paulieg 1,929 1,996 1,646 10,852 45,812 3,036,536
    35 37 King Wookie 2,612 2,702 2,266 15,324 44,931 706,019
    36 35 VulkanBros_TPU 2,575 1,519 1,648 11,441 42,078 873,317
    37 7 stanhemi 836 548 903 6,141 41,326 4,344,869
    38 92 BowHunt3r 1,525 1,245 1,417 9,489 40,513 199,136
    39 104 up1 Bursar123 4,341 2,488 1,678 12,758 39,669 153,365
    40 58 amdguy 1,011 1,360 1,424 8,821 36,343 383,966
    41 60 BazookaJoe 1,184 1,322 1,285 7,919 36,153 342,466
    42 89 Azma666 1,317 783 340 3,930 34,350 213,698
    43 120 popswala 644 442 747 4,918 26,823 118,681
    44 72 Damulta 682 596 675 3,206 26,165 267,384
    45 95 up2 Radical_Edward 1,727 1,811 1,717 11,509 26,031 176,746
    46 112 Exeodus 924 1,512 1,072 7,036 25,832 136,972
    47 87 AlienIsGOD 40 817 645 4,503 25,422 220,842
    48 56 hat_tpu 920 1,728 1,213 8,659 25,375 397,623
    49 36 MrSemi 1,085 1,807 736 6,078 25,322 739,142
    50 90 FIH The Don 400 731 621 3,655 24,304 203,610
    51 67 arrakis9 1,192 803 658 5,499 23,856 294,398
    52 102 Pembo 0 0 0 0 23,491 159,031
    53 48 carlramsey 972 1,156 904 5,620 23,118 503,638
    54 123 Moggy 1,021 1,189 725 5,505 22,294 112,719
    55 42 Jejking 823 0 654 3,855 21,660 610,960
    56 55 itsover65 1,115 826 685 4,490 19,759 403,182
    57 86 BraveSoul 303 38 614 3,107 19,734 222,856
    58 74 anthony whittle 643 600 533 3,347 14,894 257,966
    59 81 Black Panther 816 0 367 2,567 14,882 236,658
    60 127 larrymachine 838 426 432 3,266 14,222 102,221
    61 103 rsh5155 806 272 425 2,990 11,903 156,263
    62 119 down1 Giggla 1,455 1,677 624 4,328 11,757 122,520
    63 68 Kursah 72 29 513 3,028 11,004 288,991
    64 30 Buck_Nasty 0 0 0 0 10,021 1,108,845
    65 108 captainskyhawk 541 506 435 2,746 9,803 145,381
    66 47 deathmore 0 510 445 2,803 9,724 521,327
    67 52 blkhogan 46 312 124 736 9,599 459,455
    68 79 onepost 343 318 280 1,574 9,113 241,779
    69 101 jctuner 349 411 295 2,150 8,843 165,786
    70 65 up1 NastyHabits 501 499 382 2,340 8,351 306,500
    71 10 D.Law 155 107 230 1,401 8,124 3,804,054
    72 107 gogx 380 191 262 1,837 7,335 148,626
    73 118 up1 Qu4k3r 382 87 101 1,642 7,188 122,823
    74 75 XZero450 264 348 284 1,893 6,406 253,507
    75 97 down1 Pete1burn 0 0 0 0 5,614 175,666
    76 83 t77snapshot 73 74 188 1,098 5,364 233,427
    77 122 kebabi 0 73 28 199 5,363 116,847
    78 93 ChaoticAtmosphere 111 138 159 1,094 5,098 194,257
    79 88 mdbrotha03 0 142 184 2,809 5,026 213,754
    80 109 etrigan420 130 0 35 287 3,976 144,652
    81 44 angelkiller 0 0 72 434 3,920 584,299
    82 111 snipermonkey2 135 159 118 992 3,217 138,460
    83 78 BlackAtem 224 0 53 323 2,992 243,619
    84 100 A Cheese Danish 0 0 33 232 2,568 166,428
    85 71 Kreij 31 39 57 355 1,903 267,961
    86 22 freaksavior 0 0 19 131 1,685 1,681,962
    87 73 Munki_TPU 0 0 28 110 898 265,836
    88 49 mmaakk 0 0 0 0 357 486,193
    89 80 DarkEgo 0 0 0 0 342 241,045
    90 53 MRCLTPU 0 0 0 0 219 412,449
    91 69 JrRacinFan 0 0 0 0 213 285,983
    92 13 Chomes 0 0 0 0 0 2,376,678
    93 16 Oily_17 0 0 0 0 0 1,879,465
    94 32 4x4n_TPU 0 0 0 0 0 1,088,784
    95 33 DaedalusHelios 0 0 0 0 0 1,058,960
    96 34 mx500torid 0 0 0 0 0 934,288
    97 39 Duxx 0 0 0 0 0 650,433
    98 40 caesarb2h 0 0 0 0 0 627,141
    99 41 onry 0 0 0 0 0 613,279
    100 45 cliffinsperry 0 0 0 0 0 553,133
    101 46 Nosada 0 0 0 0 0 550,503
    102 54 Wile E 0 0 0 0 0 405,371
    103 62 bpgt64 0 0 0 0 0 319,108
    104 63 NeonFlak 0 0 0 0 0 313,991
    105 64 BundyR 0 0 0 0 0 308,890
    106 66 down1 GilbertQC 0 0 0 0 0 306,485
    107 70 WhiteLotus 0 0 0 0 0 276,128
    108 76 xrealm20 0 0 0 0 0 248,109
    109 77 Yamantaka 0 0 0 0 0 246,655
    110 82 vaidas40 0 0 0 0 0 235,629
    111 84 neoreif 0 0 0 0 0 233,239
    112 85 thebluebumblebee 0 0 0 0 0 225,984
    113 91 Vagike 0 0 0 0 0 199,962
    114 94 willynuisance 0 0 0 0 0 184,938
    115 96 down1 Fitseries3 0 0 0 0 0 176,459
    116 98 aCid888* 0 0 0 0 0 172,509
    117 99 El Fiendo 0 0 0 0 0 171,300
    118 105 down1 Crunching for Stan 0 0 0 0 0 151,440
    119 110 jellyrole banned from tpu 0 0 0 0 0 140,420
    120 114 down1 scope54 0 0 0 0 0 135,043
    121 115 down1 Track607 0 0 0 0 0 133,619
    122 116 Silkstone 0 0 0 0 0 125,210
    123 117 Homeless2 0 0 0 0 0 124,277
    124 121 crimsonanacrh_TPU 0 0 0 0 0 116,959
    125 124 Shadowdust 0 0 0 0 0 108,625
    126 125 Solaris17 0 0 0 0 0 107,678
    127 126 solofly 0 0 0 0 0 105,532


    It's easy to eliminate all the goose eggs but how high to you want to set the bar?
     
  6. ERazer

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    make a poll

    imo have 14k 28day then

    for those dedicated cruncher have a "crazy cruncher" or "million mark" badge

    my 2 cent
     
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  7. theonedub

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    Just to clarify with regards to the table: it was setup to where you needed to have 100k at least in the past 28 days, so the number in the 'Last 28 Days' column needed to be 100k+ to get the badge earlier today. Now, if I understand what was posted earlier, it is set to 14k per every 28days.
     
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  8. Radical_Edward

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    Which means nearly most of the people on the team wouldn't have a badge. It'd also zap a lot of people even if it was 50K.

    All this discussion is distracting us from the main goal of crunching. :ohwell:
     
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    1+ thats why i dont mind having it set low bc every little bit helps
     
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    The way its setup now has got ~66% of all active members with the badge.

    Setting it so low could actually hurt the teams output, no? If all you have to do is throw up 500PPD people may not bother to crunch past what it takes to get the badge.
     
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    Setting it high will make some people not want to crunch for a team that has such high demands/exceptions for a piny little badge that goes with your sig.

    I personally have a X4 crunching nearly 24/7 and a X2 that crunches for about 14 hours a day, sometimes more. I'm rather sure I would still fall short due to power outages, upgrades/fiddling, and mild gaming now and again.

    Like I said before, all this talking is distracting from our main goal, which is helping find cures, find clean water, etc.
     
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  12. theonedub

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    I fail to see how an intelligible conversation about badge requirements takes away from our Crunching.
     
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    This is how I interpret the table.

    The table contains every one that has obtained 100,000 points as shown in the 'Total Credit' column.

    The table is sorted by the 'Last 28 Days' column and this is the total points obtained by each member in the last 28 days.

    When W1zzard suggested 100k for the last 28 days that meant that Chicken Patty and the members in the table above him would have a WCG Badge.

    With the WCG Badge set to 14K for the last 28 days then larrymachine and those above him would have the badge.

    I'll defer to CP on where to set the cutoff.
     
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    It doesn't but with your unrealistic idea, I don't think members that can get their badge/keep it, would want to stick around. I'm saying it could easily be as counter productive as it being too low.

    Some people don't crunch on i7's, and simply can't meet 50K in a month. If such were the case for me, I'd find a new team that would appreciate my efforts.
     
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    i guess the main question is what is this badge supposed to mean? is it A token of thanks to people who give all they can to the cause or is it supposed to be some elite thing given out to the top %?

    in all honesty i dont really care as i can only take part in the winter as ambient temps are a bitch
     
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    We are on the same page interpretation wise.

    Well it doesn't take an i7 to get 50k/month and the only thing I am 100% on is that 14k is too low, 35k ish would be passable for me. You would leave if you didnt get a badge? Thats interesting.
     
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    larrymachine and most of the people above him still contribute, so I don't see why people who have earned their badge should have it taken away from them as long as they still contribute a half decent amount of points.

    I think 20K-30K would be fine.

    Yes, there's a possibility that I'd leave. I find it hard to believe that only the "top dogs" deserve the badge.
     
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    I don't how many ppd (or points in last 28days) could get a cpu crunching 24/7 o nearly to that, but I think if any donor makes it then deserves a little acknowledgment for its help. It is clear that we all help in a disinterested and altruistic way, but the badge is like a pat on the back to continue contributing.
     
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    goose eggs is some BS isnt that kind of an eleitest standpoint? i mean yup check that out i have 0 points. but i was folding for stan. not to mention that my xeon. doesnt pull more then 200 MAYBE ppd in 16 hours. I build PC's all the time. remember that 5200 i brought back to life? or the 5000be I had or the AM3 system? or what about the 939 3200+ system? those all folded. before I gave them for free to families that didnt have a PC. what now? Do i get left out because i cant afford to upgrade my PC? because I need to pay my bills on a little more then minimum wage? or that I feel to bad to charge people for the PC's i have lying in my PC room because I think everyone should have the oppurtunities and creature comforts I made for myself with PC's without going through the shit I had to to get them? and all i can manage to do is keep a single core w/ HT Xeon crunching because the second proc and socket on the server board is useless without a mount bracket? iots MAYBE 200ppd but I work hard to be able to pull just that. Have fun blowing your thousands on processors that boost your score because I dont have that luxury. However bear in mind that doesnt mean im ANY LESS dedicated then you. or any of the "big boys". I dont mean to get on a high horse but i was #2 for years before some of you even joined the team. back when 2kPPD a day was WTF OMG amazing.
     
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    50k in 28 days is too much. As I said before, between a Athlon II x2 at 3.5GHz, a Celeron 430 at 2.4GHz and a Sempron 3000+ at 2.1GHz I make 1200-1300 points on the best days. You want around 1.7k ppd from me. I just can't do that. Upgrading the system with the Sempron pretty much requires a total overhaul. Upgrading the system with the Athlon II would require a new motherboard because my current motherboard has a 95w limit. I could upgrade the Celeron 430 to a E2xxx at the most. The PSU is junk, and the motherboard in there is a generic low end ECS board that only supports 1066 FSB processors and 667MHz RAM, and that system would still be a Pentium 3 if I didn't upgrade it for WCG.

    I would love to upgrade my server with a new motherboard, power supply, and processor, and I would love to upgrade my current system with a new cpu and motherboard, but I don't have that kind of money laying around. I'm still trying to find a job, but it's pretty shit around here right now.
     
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    Any contribution is great, but if your contribution doesn't get you a badge there is no reason to be up in arms about it or leave the team. In my exp the benefit of being part of this team is in the members that support one another, not the rather plain badge that appears in our posts.

    I think some people forget that dedication really doesn't mean do the best you can- this isnt a reward for participation and its not meant to be easy. Its not as if the top producers on the team got all their hardware for free or have money to spend frivolously on hardware. Chances are they work just as hard as you and made the necessary sacrafice to run more rigs, for longer hours, etc.

    You want a thanks or a pat on the back for joining or crunching? You can get a thanks in the respective team thread after you say post that you joined up. You want a badge? You're going to have to put in the work.
     
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    so what your saying without actually saying is that the badge is tied directly to money, and in that case even when i get there i dont want one, so count me out :shadedshu
     
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    yeah im out too i think, at least for the moment.
     
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    Dedication does not scale linearly with your PPD. I've been working in our F@H team forever. I was one of the top 10 producers with a mere Athlon64 x2 5200+ running SMP. That kind of power won't even get you in the top 50 anymore.
     
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    You guys really are missing my point, I'm at a loss as to why either I can't articulate my message clearly or why its too hard for others to understand.
     
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