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Do they protect your equipment from EMP
ie when the Russians or we (no offense to our friends over there) start lobbin nukes around ?

edit Bill i know the answer............. its NO

No, i am thinking that if country's start lobbing nukes and EMP's every were a UPS be the least of your problems.
 
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A UPS is used to supply power in the event of a power loss, to either allow you time to save what you are doing and properly shut down. A number of them have software as well, which will allow your computer to properly shut itself down.

They also do a great job as automatic voltage regulators, providing much cleaner and consistent power. And, they are also functioning as a surge protecter.
As noted before, backup power in the event of a full power outage is really just the icing on the cake. This is why the comments about no lightning storms or severe weather in their areas, or their power is stable really just illustrates a lack of awareness of the problem and the need for a good UPS.

Bad weather is NOT, by any means, the only source of damaging power anomalies. Neither is the power grid!

It is the power anomalies we cannot see without sophisticated test equipment that justifies the use of a "good" UPS.

Even in ideal conditions, every time your refrigerator or AC cycles on and off, it is sending surges and dips down the line. When these appliances are working properly, these individual anomalies cause no damage and our PSUs are designed to deal with them. But they are still constantly banging on our supplies and their regulator circuits, wearing them down and aging them.

If you don't place any value on your hardware, don't care if your network stays up, and don't care about your data, then fine. You don't need an UPS. But if you can justify in your head to use a surge and spike protector (and everyone can) then the same justification can be used for a good UPS.

Also, because a "good" UPS with AVR uses "intelligent" (active) circuitry to monitor and regulate the incoming voltage, it's surge and spike protection does not wear out over time. But a surge and spike protector uses MOVs, passive devices that do wear out - at which point their surge and spike protectors turn into simple power strips. :(

See NMSU Safety Article, Information About Surge Protectors,
NMSU.edu said:
The MOV is the heart of surge suppressors. The role of the MOV is to divert surge current. However, MOVs wear out with use. As more surges are diverted, the MOVs life span shortens, and failure becomes imminent.

There is no forewarning or visual indications given - just failure. And while failing, they can reach very high temperatures, and actually start fires.

It has been said that a surge and spike protector is like a motorcycle helmet. After it saved your noggin once, it is time to get a new helmet.

Sadly, because the first UPSs from years ago were only for backup power during power outages, that stigma has stuck in the minds of many. But today, that's like saying your cell phone is only for making phone calls! And that is far from the truth.

That would be me.

Thanks for your service.
And for yours too. And to clarify, I don't want to forget the "Silent Service" of the USN and our allies either. Especially today, the Fourth of July.

Edit add: As for EMP, that depends on the amplitude - but generally, YES. Because EMP introduces large surges into circuits, a good UPS can protect from EMP from the line voltage - assuming there is anything left to protect after a nuclear blast. But since the EMP can be introduced directly into the computer circuits too, the point is pretty moot.
 
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I have the same one. I did replace the battery in it a few years ago. The PowerChute Personal Edition V3.0.2 software is a bit flaky on Windows 7 for me. What version do you use and what OS?

Same version and same OS. The only thing flakey was that I did not know I could adjust the alert level directly on the UPS instead of using the software. Now the UPS is protecting a linux server and it runs just fine.
 

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@Bill_Bright, didn't you like my answer? I covered AVR, or are you just reinforcing?
 
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Actually I did like it - it basically summarized in one spot what I and others have said in several posts before yours. :)

My only criticism (perhaps too harsh a word, but for lack of a better word) is you putting backup power during power outages first. That suggests to some that power during power outages is the only, or primary reason they need an UPS. Yet backup power is not the primary reason for most home users. It is the AVR.

Sadly, as we've seen repeatedly in this thread, some folks see "power during power outages" and that is all they focus on, totally ignoring, disregarding, or are oblivious to the primary purpose of a "good" UPS with AVR. And that is their ability to compensate for (not just whack off the excess) high (including excessively high) voltage anomalies; surges and spikes. AND (unlike surge and spike protectors) a good UPS with AVR will also compensate for low voltage anomalies; sags and dips and long-duration sags (brownouts).

And it is this ability to compensate for these constant (even on stable, reliable grids) high and low voltage events that do create stress on the power supplies of their computers, monitors, and network equipment that is the bread and butter of a "good" UPS with AVR, not the backup power. And that is what I wanted to reiterate and reinforce.

That said, certainly, the "uninterruptible" backup power is a major and undeniable bonus!
 
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My only criticism (perhaps too harsh a word, but for lack of a better word) is you putting backup power during power outages first. That suggests to some that power during power outages is the only, or primary reason they need an UPS. Yet backup power is not the primary reason for most home users. It is the AVR.

Yeah, the only thing the backup power is relevant to me is for time to shutdown and maybe save my video game if I'm in the middle... honestly I don't expect to keep playing. Outages here can last hours, sometimes even days if it's bad...

Otherwise good summary of benefits rtwjunkie. :)
 
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Yeah, the only thing the backup power is relevant to me is for time to shutdown and maybe save my video game if I'm in the middle...
That's a primary "tangible" benefit, for sure. That's what you can see and feel and experience. But again, compensating for the anomalies you can't see are a primary benefit too.
 
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That's a primary "tangible" benefit, for sure. That's what you can see and feel and experience. But again, compensating for the anomalies you can't see are a primary benefit too.

Of course. We're in complete agreement there Bill. My point was the backup power is almost irrelevant beyond "proper shutdown" when you have outages that can last 48 hours in our neck of the woods on a bad windstorm. ;)
 
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Not sure where your neck of the woods are, but here in Eastern Nebraska, in the heart of Tornado Ally, having software that automatically "gracefully" saves your open files and exit Windows, then safely shutdown your computer before the UPS batteries run out of juice is certainly handy. But yeah, not much you can do if your power is out for many hours (or days) - except get a backup generator.

 
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Washington state. We don't have tornadoes, we have trees that grow over power lines like nuts. Then, we get wind and it's a no-brainer...
 
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Yeah, you get a lot of straight-line winds that are killers too.
 
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Same version and same OS. The only thing flakey was that I did not know I could adjust the alert level directly on the UPS instead of using the software. Now the UPS is protecting a linux server and it runs just fine.

No kidding... I never knew that. Is there a switch on it or what? Thanks!
 
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Just remember, unless Lithium Ion (and those only come in very expensive UPS), you need to replace your SLA batteries about every 3 years.
 
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Just remember, unless Lithium Ion (and those only come in very expensive UPS), you need to replace your SLA batteries about every 3 years.

My Tripplite software asks the install date of the UPS on install, and reminds me of that... smart on their part. :)
 
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So does PowerChute (APC's software package). You can also plug in how much your power company charges per kWh and it will calculate all sorts of things. Mine now says over the last 30 days, I've used 99.26kWh, costing me $11.91. I've generated about 111lbs of carbon dioxide which would take 45.2 trees to re-absorb.

I really like UPS that have an LCD readout. I think most users don't realize how little their computer draws most of the time and so they buy monster 750W, 1000W PSUs when they could get buy with good 400 - 500W. Just typing this with my i7 3770 pushed to 4.1GHz, 16Gb of RAM, GTX-650Ti, 1 SSD, 1HD, plus my wireless router, modem, and a 4-port switch, plus "two" 22" CCFL monitors, I am drawing only 153W. Kill one monitor and it drops to 115W.
 

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No kidding... I never knew that. Is there a switch on it or what? Thanks!

yea, i believe you can set the sensitivity level directly on the UPS by holding in the power button. the docs online explain it pretty clearly.
 
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So does PowerChute (APC's software package). You can also plug in how much your power company charges per kWh and it will calculate all sorts of things. Mine now says over the last 30 days, I've used 99.26kWh, costing me $11.91. I've generated about 111lbs of carbon dioxide which would take 45.2 trees to re-absorb.

I really like UPS that have an LCD readout. I think most users don't realize how little their computer draws most of the time and so they buy monster 750W, 1000W PSUs when they could get buy with good 400 - 500W. Just typing this with my i7 3770 pushed to 4.1GHz, 16Gb of RAM, GTX-650Ti, 1 SSD, 1HD, plus my wireless router, modem, and a 4-port switch, plus "two" 22" CCFL monitors, I am drawing only 153W. Kill one monitor and it drops to 115W.


MY APC's display is set to runtime... it's nice how my XS1000 has it :)
 
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