What would you do: Abit IP35 Pro or ASUS P5E

KingPing · Dec 16, 2014

MY secondary PC has the P5E in it right now, but i noticed in games like Ryse the GPU usage goes from 60% to 85% so it's obvious the GPU is being bottlenecked by the CPU, so i was thinking about swapping the P5E for the IP35 and OC the CPU to 3.8Ghz or more if possible, the only problem is the IP35 has a PCIe x16 1.0.

CPU: C2Q Q9550
RAM: 8 GB DDR2 OCZ 1066MHz (800Mhz with the P5E)
GPU: Nvidia GTX570

I can use the 2 motherboards:

Abit IP35 Pro:
+can OC the CPU to 4Ghz or more easily
-PCIe x16 is ver1.1

or

ASUS P5E:
+PCIe x16 is ver2.0
-can't OC CPU or RAM at all not even 1MHz
-god damn cold boot issue.

I'm leaning to the IP35 PRo, i think OCing the CPU will bring more performance than the PCIe x16 2.0.

What do you guys think?

Sinzia · Dec 16, 2014

I would just try and see, but that 1.1 pcie kinda scares me.

TRWOV · Dec 16, 2014

The PCIe x16 1.1 should suffice:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GTX_980_PCI-Express_Scaling/21.html

GTX980 gets a 6% penalty on x16 1.1 @ 1080p. Less powerful GPUs would be less affected.

BTW, if the GPU was being bottlenecked you'd get less GPU usage since the CPU wouldn't be able to issue commands fast enough.

Schmuckley · Dec 17, 2014

P5E hands down.
Good BIOS,strong power phases and more of them.
P5e is a blue-blood finicky board though.
Use the ernge slots.
edit: I've never had a p5e,just a p5e3 Premium.
It only will boot with Netburst chips these days :wtf:

Y U no can OC with p5E?

KingPing · Dec 17, 2014

Schmuckley said:
Y U no can OC with p5E?

It degraded i guess. Five months after buying it started to become unstable at 3.6Ghz (anything higher was insta crash) then at 3.5Ghz, then 3.4Ghz, then i just leave it stock.
The Vdrop was awful and the cold boot issue was very annoying.

The Abit is a chram to OC (whatever CPU i drop at it) and the Vdrop is very little.

Schmuckley · Dec 17, 2014

In that case,the choice must be Abit

PCIE 1.0-2.0...3.0...not that big of a deal, really.

rtwjunkie · Dec 17, 2014

So many people have bought into the fallacy sold by Intel an AMD that PCIe 3.0 is a must. It's a bill of goods with nothing in the box.

As referenced above, PCIe1.1 is only a minor drop in performance, and all the bandwidth isn't being used on PCIe 2.0 yet (single GPU, before I get corrected).

It's just sad how we're pressured to upgrade years before any software is available that requires the upgrade.

mstenholm · Dec 17, 2014

I had the Abit - good OC board but short life. Exchanged it with a ASUS P5E that is still running after 4 years more or less 24/7 3.8 GHz on a E8400. When I said running I mean continuously at 100 %. Loved the Abit (RIP) but the my ASUS lasted longer.

Edit: My ASUS P5Q had a short life so the above is just my random observations.

System Name	Classy Gal
Processor	i7 2600K
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3-B3
Cooling	CM Hyper 212 plus
Memory	16GB Kingston Hyper X
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX1070 FE
Storage	2x120GB Vertex 3 - 1x1TB WD
Display(s)	LG 23" 1920x1080
Case	Coolermaster Cosmos S
Audio Device(s)	Creative SB Titanium HD
Power Supply	Seasonic M12II 750W
Software	Win10 / Linux Mint

System Name	FragBox
Processor	Intel Core i7 2600K @ 5.0GHz/1.45 volts
Motherboard	Asus P8Z77 WS
Cooling	Custom CPU loop
Memory	Kingston 12GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s)	Galaxy GTX 680/Zotac GTX 680 in SLi/EVGA GTX 650Ti
Storage	2 Vertex 3 120's, raid 0, 2 Seagate Momentus XT 500GB's in raid 0, 1 Hitatchi 2TB for backup
Display(s)	3 Acer S232HLX2 in nvidia surround
Case	Corsair C70 White
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Corsair AX1200
Software	Win 7 x64 Pro

System Name	Dell-y Driver
Processor	Core i5-10400
Motherboard	Asrock H410M-HVS
Cooling	Intel 95w stock cooler
Memory	2x8 A-DATA 2999Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s)	UHD 630
Storage	1TB WD Green M.2 - 4TB Seagate Barracuda
Display(s)	Asus PA248 1920x1200 IPS
Case	Dell Vostro 270S case
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Dell 220w
Software	Windows 10 64bit

System Name	Some computer stuff
Processor	Mostly Intel or AMD
Motherboard	ATX or mATX
Cooling	Bong Cooler
Memory	DDR2-4
Video Card(s)	A few
Storage	Plenty Platters or SSDs or USBs
Display(s)	Samsung 23"
Case	5 on the floor
Audio Device(s)	There's one for my M7 Gene, Oh I have 3-4 PCI 5.1 ones.Sabrent! lol
Power Supply	750-1000W
Mouse	cheap
Keyboard	Used ps2 from garage sales
Software	Yeah
Benchmark Scores	http://hwbot.org/user/schmuckley/#Hardware_Library http://valid.canardpc.com/rbjpbg

System Name	Classy Gal
Processor	i7 2600K
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3-B3
Cooling	CM Hyper 212 plus
Memory	16GB Kingston Hyper X
Video Card(s)	EVGA GTX1070 FE
Storage	2x120GB Vertex 3 - 1x1TB WD
Display(s)	LG 23" 1920x1080
Case	Coolermaster Cosmos S
Audio Device(s)	Creative SB Titanium HD
Power Supply	Seasonic M12II 750W
Software	Win10 / Linux Mint

System Name	Bayou Phantom
Processor	Core i7-8700k 4.4Ghz @ 1.18v
Motherboard	ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6
Cooling	All air: 2x140mm Fractal exhaust; 3x 140mm Cougar Intake; Enermax T40F Black CPU cooler
Memory	2x 16GB Mushkin Redline DDR-4 3200
Video Card(s)	EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Xc
Storage	1x 500 MX500 SSD; 2x 6TB WD Black; 1x 4TB WD Black; 1x400GB VelRptr; 1x 4TB WD Blue storage (eSATA)
Display(s)	HP 27q 27" IPS @ 2560 x 1440
Case	Fractal Design Define R4 Black w/Titanium front -windowed
Audio Device(s)	Soundblaster Z
Power Supply	Seasonic X-850
Mouse	Coolermaster Sentinel III (large palm grip!)
Keyboard	Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches)
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Start10 & Fences 3.0 installed)

System Name	The work PC /2700x/5950x
Processor	3900X stock/ 2700x stock/ 5950x 4200 MHz fixed @ 1,056-1,08V
Motherboard	Gigabyte AORUS Master X570/2xMSI X470 M7 AC
Cooling	Custom WC XSPC RX480, Laing DDC, XSPC Laing DDC Top V3 and EK Velocity/NH15/NH-U12S SE
Memory	32 GB Viper 3600/14 /16 GB Trident Z F4-4000C18D-16GTZSW 3600 /32 GB G Skill Flare CL14 3400
Video Card(s)	2070 Super X MSI/GTX 970 MSI/ GTX 970 MSI
Storage	1 TB SSD+500 GB NVMe / 500 GB SSD/ 500 GB SSD
Display(s)	Dell UltraSharp U2518D/2408WFP
Case	Corsair 800D / Lian test bench/NZXT 500
Power Supply	AX 850 Titanium/AX 860i/AX 760
Software	Dual boot/Win 7 & 10 / Linux / Win 10

What would you do: Abit IP35 Pro or ASUS P5E

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