Discussion in 'Comments & Feedback' started by W1zzard, Feb 21, 2007.
We appreciate you more than you think...
well if anyone has a preblem with me id certainl;y like to know and i hope that didnt sound mean im not the type to usually lash out so no problems posting in this thread if im being a B#$% id like to hear about it.
i just wanted to say that i've always felt pretty connected to both solaris and zek, they're both under 2 hours drive from me, and if they ever gave me shit, we'd smash bros it up to decide who's right. or UT
Solaris, I don't see you as much as I used to when I first joined... thats my only complaint.
i'm active on about 5 other forums; the nazi-mods are almost non-existent here compaired to other forums. and on other forums, they *certainly* are present and obvious.
with techpowerup!, i've had a good experience so far ... and even a *great* experience compared to certain other forums where you obviously have moderators on a power trip.
i ran a rather succesful and prominent houston local BBS as a wee lad and so know the temptation to lurk and manipulate ... and admittedly, with certain personalities, the role of leadership is not handled well.
that said ...
my advice? deal with as many problems as you can personally, and relegate the remainder to the moderators you know are in it for the general good.
otherwise ... your guys have been doing a pretty good job IMHO ... though i've not had personal dealings with many beyond seeking assitance with a account name change a while back ... which, as was the case with all of my regular forums (other than one, which i've since boycotted) ... wasn't a big deal to you guys.
thanks for a good forum.
IMO...Overall very good forum, even for casual users as myself...I visited here about a year ago looking for ideas on solving a problem and picking a video card. All I needed to really do was read what others were saying and I got enough to go on.
In the past week I was looking for more specific information so I signed up and asked a couple of questions. Some of the responses were specific enough to be helpful, some were more reflective of only an opinion and lacked compelling or meaningful explanation.
Sorry....stating brand xxxx is pos without giving an explanation is a waste of electrons. It is fine with me if the moderator deletes the post. When asking technical review types of questions, responses should be mature rather than juvenile. If the mod is responsible for making the call, so be it. That is the price of admission so to speak. If the post does not add value to the thread or help lead to an answer, give that explanation then delete it and don't worry about it.
As a casual PC hobbyist, I genuinely appreciate the chance to pick other people's brains and see what they are experiencing before I buy or make a decision. Most of the threads involve topics way beyond my experiences or skill sets, but I just pass on those and try to stick with threads which seem to address the technical problem I am experiencing (or trying to avoid ).
You talk family. If you are my family you will tell me when you want me to communicate and about what. I will listen to family.
you dont need to ask to communicate
just with more clarity
like i said, it was only one particular thread
anyway, back onto topic...
yes you small almost as bad as zek and your avatar is creapy.....
Why was this topic moved?
In this case you do.
Well I have been here for about 6 months now I think, I forget what I came to ask originally, but that's all I ever did. I asked questions, and I got answers. I've never seen a terrible argument, and I've personally only actually been involved in one battle of words. As time progressed I began to read more, I began to learn a little more so that I felt comfortable with trying to help others.
As it is I usually visit a few times a day, read the news posts, check some of my subscribed posts. And just look around, trying to be involved. I've never had a problem with a mod, and overall I have only seen quality coming from the mods. TPU is a good forum, for help, for friends.
TPU is a place I want to be!
W1zzard your forum is great TPU is great and most of the time ur downloads rock 1.10MB....I luv it here ;keep up the good work
Moot point, the intent of his post was the US Constitution (or any other similar document) has little application in this private forum. (Maybe if servers were in France which requires French as the official language of commerce and education they would have to comply).
The purpose of the forum is to share technical knowledge. If a particular post or thread does not contribute to the advancement of that knowledge, what value is added or what purpose is served by allowing of the post on the forum ? If people think this forum should be the outlet for their personal frustrations over technical, personal, or political matters...hmmm maybe they should just yell out the window.....If it is not relevant.... I don't really want to read about it.
Will readers and participants continue to use tpu as a problem solving tool if the threads are littered with posts which do not add value to the dialogue or subject matter ? Would the democrats allow the republicans to take over the podium at their convention ? Would people attend a church which allows atheists to hijack the pulpit ? Would I go to a baseball game which allows the fans to wander around the playing field ? (it would make line drives interesting) ?
While some categories and topics exist for the sake of entertainment, emotional release, etc, the primary purpose of the forum is exchange of ideas and knowledge.
I am more than acceptable to moderators filtering out the material which does not add value to the discussion.
UT, I haven't played smash bros in years
Stop that .
Long story made short, you'd like to see less post-whoring, it's a work in progress my friend don't worry about it .
I agree with a good many of the posts here. TPU is by far the best forum I've ever been to. When I first came here(getting a 9550->9600Pro bios), I had already written off forums altogether. I was set on never joining another one. Then one of the news headlines caught my eye, so I started looking around. TPU has an almost family-like atmosphere to it. This is the only forum in which I stuck around long enough to hit over 300 posts, let alone over 1000.
With that said, there isn't much I would change here. But I have noticed that some of the mods have been using a double standard lately. It's not that often, and it hasn't effected me directly, but it has been happening. And I'm not really upset about it, after all, we all get out of line sometimes. Sometimes all that's needed is a catalyst. I hope that this thread will be what was needed for them to be more alert to their actions.
ive been an active member since last year, yes alot mods have been out-of-line, therehas been alot of bashing on the members. some of the mods need to be removed imo, but the forums are great, despite some bad mods, i like the discussions us members have, yeah i admit i have been hot headed t one particular mod, and i havnt aplogized to him yet, and he knows who i am, maybe...it wassome stupid thng about the new x-box 360, and i accused him of posting a fake news article....anyways..things got heated and yeah...so yeah this is to jimmy 2004,im sorry.....some mods are coool, some have different styles of dealing with flames.....but yeah these forums are great
I like it here. It's pretty balanced. It can be a small family for some, but it's also a source for interesting discussions on computerstuff. Overall it's pretty well-modded.
Also, I'm a big fan of DantheBanjoman. He's evil, I know, but he's honest.
I have been a member of TPU now for some 13 months. In all that time I have never had an issue personally with any mod, I try to conduct myself in a manner that even when in disagreement is not confrontational or unpleasant, to be fair and honest, IMO not all members go about their forum business in the same manner and some deliberatly appear to try to offend by their very tone, this I stress is a minority but I only know that they annoy the cr*p out of me, the difference is I am not a mod so am in no position to react in a manner that my "gut instinct" would normally dictate.
That said, I have witnessed some occasions where mods have stepped into a thread in a heavy handed manner, made comment and dismised even fair minded argument from the members, dismissing their views, becoming annoyed that there are opinions against their argument/judgement that eventually led to th thread closure.
Having said that, I have witnessed MANY times where a mod has stepped in at exactly the right time, for the right reason and put a stop to offensive, personal (and thats the key here) or even the illegal. Sometimes healthy debate turns to unhealthy argument which unfortunatly at times can get personal, once you reduce things to the personal level then you are on a downward slope that is rarely reversable, mods like the rest of us at times can get dragged into these situations, none of us are perfect, bottom line for me is they get it right most of the time and thats the important thing.
One suggestion I would make (not entirely knowing the process for appointing mods), is that perhaps TPU members could periodically vote for upto 3 mods to be appointed say for a 3 month term, based on who they (the members) beleive would be the best suited, as I said, perhaps just for a 3 month tenure, then over a period of time, many more of us would be aware of the difficulties and have gained the experience first hand of what the mods at times have to live with here in the forum which can only be a good thing.
I am AMENDING that, because mysticjon did the RIGHT THING, here:
* 3 cheers for him, because he WAS HONEST, & used the technique I illustrated to yes, blow by the NT security system to get into it, but DID return it...
(AND, got a HELL of a reward no less!)
This is part of why I like coming here... people here are very "A-OK" in "APK"'s book, & this is just another example thereof.
P.S.=> Honesty IS the best policy, & he proves it... good job I say! He made a "liar outta me", because I assumed the worst... & I WAS WRONG!
I agree: I prefer people that are DIRECT/BLUNT, & even though I had a 'small conflict' w/ he? He's NOT a bad dude @ all... not imo!
Cut him a break if anyone's P.O.'d @ he, because imo?? He did NOT 'assault me' as I felt he did & I WAS HAVING A BAD DAY, & am sort of ashamed of myself for acting how I did about it really... Yes, I was WRONG!!!
Now, if he has a bad day now & then?? So what... we ALL do! It's NOT like it's 'consistent'... you have to figure that guys from other nations speak english as a 2nd language, & sometimes, because the net & written words are NOT capable of conveying tone (I try to use CAPS & "" as sarcasm or emphasis) it does not always work...
Personally, it blows my mind that others from nations where the primary language is NOT english have a mastery of english period, from other nations, & speak + write as well as they do as is... apk
...When is a mod not a mod?...
when he is a member.
If mods were stripped of their post numbers and not given additional score for new posts, or if they were not permitted to post except in a mod post forum, it would eliminate the opportunity to compete with members. On the otherhand if members were stripped of a post count there would be less infighting and bickering. But that is not the main reason for this post.
A mod is not a member by definition and a member is not a mod. When a mod acts as a member there will always be that lack of understanding... confused line of communication that is limiting for a member. The channel of communication does not have to be that way. If a mod chooses that type of communication then that is his choice. My experience has been to eliminate all barriers and make sure that the person communicating in return is doing the same. That to me is communication. In this forum I have seen examples of open communication, by direct order. Usually an explanation is given. No warning seems to be the rule.
A mod can be compared to a building manager. If the manager lives in the building and there are residents there then is the manager a resident or a manager? Is a mod a member or not? This conflict of interest should be clearly defined.
y eye, I disagree. The mods and me as admin in my board are posting like normal users all the time. A mod is a mod when he's doing mod stuff, otherwise he's just a normal user taking part in discussions. Only if a mod tries to mix his mod powers with the way he discusses there's a problem. And then the mod should be made ex-mod
...When is a mod not a mod ?...
When he is a member.
I understand what you are saying and where you are coming from, and I believe that is the reality, but it is not a truth. It as a changing interpretation that is not explained nor agreed upon method of communication. We should be able to "mod the mods" make it easier for them to do their job as their admin instructs, because what you are saying is the problem...
Give the mods a post forum. Allow members to post there if the mods require. Keep the mods out of public forum, no posts just moderate/police, for a while and lets see if it will make a difference.
Overall the best Forum I've been a member of, good poeople, Great information!!
Yes, I have probably contributed to wrongdoing on this forum; most likley not that bad of an infraction though, as no one has sent me a warning yet.
I've noticed that some of the problems occur when there are no moderators online. There should be a way to ensure that a Mod is always present.
Also, maybe "TPU/CHAT" would be used more, if it was something other than JAVA. Seems like it's not compatable with all systems, so no one uses it. I can't get it to work very well, and never have liked Java much, so I tend to disable all Java functions except the bare minimums.
That is so far from reality that I actually have problems answering it... Mods are usually users that have shown some dedication/knowledge etc. and thus earned their Mod status. What you are saying is that once a User becomes a Mod, he has to shut up... that is just plain ridiculous. And btw, you are telling W1zzard to shut up here as well
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