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  • New report says 41 million metric tonnes of electronic waste worth a staggering £34billion was discarded in 2014
  • Countries illegally export 'millions of tonnes' of e-waste annually to African nations like Ghana, campaigners say
  • Shocking photographs from its capital Accra show thousands of discarded appliances in huge, filthy landfill sites
  • Some contain toxic materials like lead and mercury which damage environment and people sifting through them



Do we really care about what happens with our old stuff, or is it another case of out of sight, out of mind.

about 2 minutes of reading, a vid and pictures.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ld-PCs-laptops-microwaves-fridges-phones.html
 

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There are places that break it down to the metals although as i understand it. it's expensive to do.
 
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Until countries like Ghana stop importing that trash all the complaining and public awareness in the world will do nothing, its not like someone is secretly piling it all up while they sleep they ask for this shit.

edit: I just wanted to make my point on this clear as some people might get the wrong impression.
I don't support or condone what anyone is doing in this situation but sorting this e-waste is the only income these people have.
Until you can provide them with some other way of providing for themselves they are not going to tell the guy importing it illegally to stop.
In fact they will likely help to continue these practices.
 
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Until countries like Ghana stop importing that trash all the complaining and public awareness in the world will do nothing, its not like someone is secretly piling it all up while they sleep they ask for this shit.
True, they get paid to accept it, and people make a living off it, scavenging through it for anything they can use or sell.
Tipping laws here prevent the disposal of electronic waste, as well as the removal of goods from tip sites.
 

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I for one know that my scrap electronics go to a recycler here in Durham that handles things. Much better than Ghana, given that we have environmental and labor laws here :)
 
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I sleep easy at night because I know what happens to my stuff. ;)

Where I live it's illegal to throw most of it away. You must take it(almost all computer related e-waste) to a recycling center. And from the time that it arrives there, it's tracked until processed into usable raw materials.

Oregon E-cycles!
 

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Do we really care about what happens with our old stuff, or is it another case of out of sight, out of mind.
I do which is why I despise this "new phone every 1-2 years" mentality most Americans have. It's ridiculous.


The problem with recyclers is it is nigh impossible to know if they are actually recycling them or if they're shipping it off to a landfill elsewhere. There was a study done a while ago that showed most in the USA exported it.

Some relevenent info:
Beware Of Fake Recycling
As e-waste piles up, disposal issues grow

Most of my eWaste goes to Millenium Recycling.


There are places that break it down to the metals although as i understand it. it's expensive to do.
Some facilities remove chips from circuit boards and resell them.
 
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I go about 7 or 8 years on a phone. I just got my first smart phone. I have a friend that uses a Nokia from the 90s and pays $56 a year for cell service. I pay $30 a month from Republic Wireless for unlimited data 3 G
 
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I think this quote is the pertinent point in the article

Transporting broken or expired electronics to Africa is illegal but brokers exploit a loophole by fraudulently labelling the items as reusable, according to the Head of United Nations University who believes Africa is becoming 'a graveyard for e-waste'.
 

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Smartphone =! phone. They are the same in the same way a TI calculator is a laptop. And if you have an old smartphone and try a new one and realize how different they are it's hard to argue against the upgrade. Every two years is too often if you have a high end phone though, but by then the battery will have problems and it's not certain you can replace it easily, so you just renew your contract and get a shiny new phone. It's simple and wasteful, as capitalism demands.

BTW I read an article about e-waste in Asia years ago that reported on people sitting in street corners melting stuff and sorting metals based on the smell of the smoke.
 
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Smartphone =! phone.
Really no such thing as a cellphone in the USA anymore. But yeah, there are people that keep their phone for a decade or more but there's also people that are constantly upgrading. The environmental impact of the latter group is substantially greater than the former group.

I like the rise of prepaid cellular carriers (Cricket, Straighttalk, etc.) in the USA. People have to absorb the cost of the phone out right so they are aware of the cost of it. It disincentives frequent upgrading which the contractual carriers (AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint, MetroPCS, etc.) over-promote.
 
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As someone posted, they ask for it. I got a $20 phone i bought almost three years ago.
 

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Oh yeah, I've seen about this before and it's pretty scandalous, with the way these poverty-stricken people are exploited and abused into doing this illegal work being perhaps the worst part of it.

Unfortunately, even giving your used computer parts to a reputable recycling company is likely to end up here.

It'll all about the money, baby. :rolleyes:
 
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As someone posted, they ask for it. I got a $20 phone i bought almost three years ago.

Transporting broken or expired electronics to Africa is illegal but brokers exploit a loophole by fraudulently labelling the items as reusable, according to the Head of United Nations University who believes Africa is becoming 'a graveyard for e-waste'.

If it's against their laws they aren't asking for it.
 

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If it's against their laws they aren't asking for it.
Bribary and corruption - the usual shit found in those countries and their honest citizens are always getting a raw deal over it. :shadedshu:
 
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i may keep it some, just for reminds me that i ever had it before
and i dunno, i still keep my old hdd. i just think that i may use it for something
 

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this is one of the reasons I havent had a Cell phone since..... '02 'ish. I'm also a miserable anti-social SOB who has never "posted" to face-bork, or tweeted, either. So not all Americans have the "new phone every year mentality". Also, I watched a doc on this, and from what I remembered, it was MOSTLY EU's junk going there. I'm certain US stuff does too, but thats what I think was said in the DOC. I COULD be wrong.
 

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I confess to being a phone slut...however i still have every single one.

I intend to pass them on to my grandchildren, they will then become their "problem"o_O..............sound familiar?
 

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