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which card is faster and as a single card solution

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by trt740, May 18, 2008.

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Which ones faster and what would you buy as a single card solution

  1. EVGA 512-P3-N877-AR GeForce 9800 GTX SSC 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP

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  2. ASUS EAH3850X2/HTDI/1G Dual Radeon HD 3850 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready

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  1. panchoman

    panchoman Sold my stars!

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    3850x2 is what you definently want for higher res gaming
     
  2. trt740

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    I play at 1400x900 widescreen
     
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    I would go for the 9800
     
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    At 1400x900 I'd pick the 9800gtx. Its quicker. 3850x2 has more ram for higher res's, but at that res the 9800gtx will likely win out.
     
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    I thought it was 2x256bit interfaces, 512mb for each.
     
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    Yeh exactly. Everything has to be mirrored so its not really 1GB of RAM.
     
  7. ktr

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    Check this chart on for expreview:

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    All those game benchies are done at 1680x1050 or greater, and the 3850x2 will of course be slower than the 3870x2. They are compelling numbers though.
     
  9. trt740

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    Yes this is true and remember the new 9800gtx are clocked alot higher than the 9800gtx in that test Alot higher. The one I listed is about 100 mghz on the core near 200 Mghz on the shaders and 100 mghz on the ram. They oc even higher to 800+core /2000 shaders/2400 Mem. The 3850x2 will oc to 778 core/ and 1980 memory which is very close to standard 3870x2 on the core and higher than it's standard memory
     
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    Indeed, and there is more oc overhead w/ the 9800gtx as well. My vote stands.
     
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    It seems the 9800gtx and 3870 x2/3850x2 are very close. The only thing that pisses me off is the 9800gtx fan will not spin it's fan up as the heat goes higher. The fan has to manually set it. The fan on the 9800gtx even on high cools alot better than a 8800gts and is not near as loud.
     
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    That chart is real but that inquires to res 1680 x 1050 or higher. Since 9800 GTX only has 512 MB it is going to suck for those res, and the X2 has 1GB.....
     
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    Yes your right I play at 1400x900 the max my monitor supports, not a bad resolution but not that high. I do really like the 3850x2 and it's cooler. It does match my motherboard aswell.
     
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    Haha, well then get that. Seems they're gonna come up close enough performance wise aesthetics or ati v.s. nvidia decision would be a legitimate reason for purchase.
     
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    Only 512MB can be used. It has to be mirrored across both sets of 512mb of RAM.

    Apparently rv770 will have the ability of both cores being able to access the same RAM.

    Also, 9800gtx isnt clocked higher than in that test. A stock 9800gtx has its core running at 675mhz with shaders at 1688mhz. If your saying that you can overclock it, remember that the hd3870 also overclocks a lot.
     
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    Not so sure it's better at 1400x900 the 9800gtx seems faster. LOL :laugh:
     
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    I agree, especially when its ocd. But it probably won't be anything huge, just a few extra frames here and there. Really, I would wait for the new gen, but out of these two I think its too close to call, and we're probably not gonna get benchies w/ the gtx ocd, so its kind of a toss up.....
     
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    very nice
     
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    Hey T,

    Im at work right now so can't research but, I would go with the 3850X2 ON MY CURRENT board. Although, I would never buy it because I am a budget guy. Now I am planning on switching boards in the not so far off future so my opinions may/could change.
     
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    9800gtx ftw, and better than an G92GTS because it has more power phases for huge OC's, it has MUCH better memory (mine runs at 2500mhz) and the price difference can be totally negligible.

    and FYI, to put it to rest, the 38x0X2's are 2x256-bit and 2x512mb, that does NOT make it equivalent of a single card with 512-bit and 1024mb. the new GT200 is going to prove my point quite well.
     
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    +1 On that. From almost every person or review I've seen(literaly dozens) these cards OC extremely well. Even if you were unlucky and got a crappy binned card you will still be able to stabily clock higher than an SSC stock and probably get close to 800 core and 2350 or higher on the memory.
     
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    with a good cooler the 3850X2 clocks just as good as the 3850 also BIOS mod it to 1.327v (ends up being same vgpu and 3870) and you should be able to hit 860mhz core on a good card
     
  24. trt740

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    Can you link the bios mod. so I can see how it is done
     
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    find me its BIOS and i will do SS of it
     

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