Which printer is best for printout lots of paper with good quality?

[denixius]

Greetings,

I have to stay away for a while from TechPowerUp forum for some reasons. But now I'm back, and in the first day of my return, I need your help. (Please don't get me wrong, I'm working on a project and this keep me busy for a while.)

So, my question is same as in the title, I want to buy printer. Because I'm writing a fantasy novel. And first to merge these papers to the book, I have to send some copies to persons that can read this and send me their feedbacks. I have no idea what is the best printer to printout lots of good quality paper. Even I don't know it's really necessary to printout with good quality.

If I no need to buy something very good quality, I can buy a medium-level printer. I added some printers below that I can buy my local tech store. Are they good to buy? I don't want to change this printer in a quick time, so I want to use it long time.

CANON I-SENSYS LBP6030B MONO LASER - 89.97 USD
CANON PIXMA E464 - 65.15 USD
DESKJET 2546 (HP) - 69.29 USD
CANON PIXMA E404 - 47.92 USD

...or is there any advice?

Bests,

 

[Frick]

Laser. Absolutely laser, but I have no idea what to look for exactly.

 

[Jetster]

Just black n white?

 

[Deleted member 67555]

A Brother printer...
Find a Brother printer in your price range...best printers at any price range..best ink prices.

 

[denixius]

Just black n white?

Just black and white, yes.

A Brother printer...
Find a Brother printer in your price range...best printers at any price range..best ink prices.

It's hard to find parts of this machine, I guess. In my country of course.

Laser. Absolutely laser, but I have no idea what to look for exactly.

I see. I thought that too.

 

[Shou Miko]

If u only need a black and white work horse fine a simple printer with ability to get extra tray's.

Mby look at Lexmark's MS series of printers depending on ur needs, i sold some of their so called black/white "work horses" of the MS series to shipping companies and they just change out the toner in the printer everything it runs dry and fill the trays with paper.

 

[jsfitz54]

Go with a Laserjet. I just installed one of these, very easy and fast. This one does color: http://www.staples.com/HP-Color-Las...P:8:47521:laserjet_pro_m452dn_printer:2995071

Price was 350.00 USD on sale plus 50.00 for trade in and 20% coupon. Ink is not cheap.

The point is, a laser mono color for book writing and editing would be cheaper in the long run and give you superior quality.

Last I knew, CANON makes the guts for HP.

EDIT: Look at speed and duty rating. Say no to the Deskjet, ink price will kill you.

 

[micropage7]

Laser. Absolutely laser, but I have no idea what to look for exactly.

agree, laser. especially when all you need just black and white like text
but if you need color pages you need to take the other
i take
CANON PIXMA E464

 

[Bill_Bright]

Laser printers for black and white printouts cost less per page to than Inkjets - so says Consumer Reports who does some of the most extensive and thorough tests around. Note too that cheap printers tend to have greater ink costs. So spending more up front on a higher-end device can save you money over the long run - especially if you will be printing a lot, which you will be doing.

So you need to look around and "invest" in a quality, B&W laser.

See: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/printers/buying-guide.htm

If you'll print only black and white text documents–and a lot of them–a laser printer makes the most sense.

That said, I recommend you contact those you will be sending your writings too before sending them. Many prefer digital format so they can distribute it amongst their own devices and co-workers, and do edits.

 

[Dethroy]

I second laser. Durability, print quality, pages/min, maintenance and running costs are superior.
Only inkjet that comes close is HP's Officejet Pro 8500 / 8600 Series (I know that from experience; we run 30 of these machines in home offices).

 

[W1zzard]

+1 for laser.

I am actively using a HP LaserJet 4L from 1993, works like on day one, and you can get toners everywhere, for dirt cheap.

Do you need duplex printing?

 

[Bill_Bright]

I am actively using a HP LaserJet 4L from 1993

I got one of these sitting on a storage shelf. Not the fastest, but beautiful print quality. I had to retire it when I could not get it to work with W8.

Do you need duplex printing?

Good question. Duplex printing slows down print speeds a bit (intentional delays are introduced to allow the ink to set/dry before pulling the paper back in to print on the other side) but paper costs are obviously greatly reduced. So may mailing costs for larger documents.

 

[W1zzard]

I had to retire it when I could not get it to work with W8

In the add printer dialog, when you have to select the printer driver (which doesn't include the 4L anymore), click on the Windows Update button, it will take a few minutes, depending on your internet speed, and boom, you should have LaserJet 4 in there

I also retrofitted mine with Ethernet

Something similar to that: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003CFATR4/?tag=tec06d-20
Look for dirt-cheap used ones on eBay.

 

[Bill_Bright]

2500 PS class driver? I don't remember that being it. Will have to check it out. Thanks.

And I have an old JetDirect print server that, last time I tried it, still works great for networking.

 

[W1zzard]

2500 PS class driver? I don't remember that being it. Will have to check it out. Thanks.

No, the orange highlight box, thats the Windows Update button you should click

 

[Bill_Bright]

Hmmm, pretty sure I did that when I was running W8.x and it was not listed. But now, it seems a bunch more HPs are in there and sure enough, so is the 4L . So I will have to give it try - though not sure how a cartridge that has been sitting, partly used, on a shelf for 4 years or so will do - and it was barely used for several years before that.

When I got out the of USAF in 1995, I used the heck out of it for resumes. But once I landed a decent job at Sterling Software (later bought out by Northrop Grumman IT), I no longer had a need for such quality. Plus, ink jet quality started to get pretty close to lasers and now, IMO, are there. I have a HP 7525 AiO that really serves my purpose and it can spit out 20 pages before the 4L spits out its first. Plus it does automatic duplexing - a real manual pain with the 4L.

Still it would be fun to see if the old laser will come to life again.

Thanks.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

The printers you suggested is bare entry level , would go with something a bit better

Canon - LB7018c
Canon - LBP6670dn

http://www.canon-europe.com/for_home/product_finder/printers/laser/i-sensys_lbp7018c/
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/...gle-function/imageclass/lbp6670dn?tab=reviews

 

[taz420nj]

In that price range and that type of duty, just forget inkjet exists. The per-page costs are exorbitant as far as the ink goes. I don't know what models you have available in your area, but for high volume document printing laser is definitely the way to go as far as lowest per-page price and print quality. Cheap inkjet printers can cost upwards of 20 cents per page in ink for black/white, while most laser printers are around a penny or less per page. I'm kinda partial to Oki printers, they've never let me or my customers down.. I have two myself including a 10 year old color laser that still works like the day I bought it. There's a nice entry level monochrome laser (B412dn) for $170 that does 35ppm and comes with the duplexer, a 250 sheet (half-ream) tray, and network card, plus you can add a second full-ream paper tray if you need it.

 

[Rhyseh]

Why not just pay a printing place for a few copies to be printed and bound? Considering toner, hardware and paper costs.... Personally I'd just pay a professional with the right equipment to do it all for me.... It's not that expensive really..

If we are talking a few hundred pages at a time.... How long do you want this thing to last? How many pages per month are you printing. You will likely need to jump to a business grade printer, which will cost alot more, especially if you want something serviceable...

 

[taz420nj]

Why not just pay a printing place for a few copies to be printed and bound? Considering toner, hardware and paper costs.... Personally I'd just pay a professional with the right equipment to do it all for me.... It's not that expensive really..

If we are talking a few hundred pages at a time.... How long do you want this thing to last? How many pages per month are you printing. You will likely need to jump to a business grade printer, which will cost alot more, especially if you want something serviceable...

You don't bind manuscripts.

And the duty cycle on even entry level lasers is in the thousands of pages - even tens of thousands of pages per month. The B412dn I suggested (which being under $200 is still classified as an entry level) is rated for printing 60,000 pages per MONTH. As I said my color laser is 10 years old, and has almost 50,000 pages on the counter, and it still works good as new.

 

[Rhyseh]

You don't bind manuscripts.

And the duty cycle on even entry level lasers is in the thousands of pages - even tens of thousands of pages per month. The B412dn I suggested (which being under $200 is still classified as an entry level) is rated for printing 60,000 pages per MONTH. As I said my color laser is 10 years old, and has almost 50,000 pages on the counter, and it still works good as new.

Then don't pay for binding.....

That's it's maximum duty cycle, recommended duty cycle is 250 to 3000 pages per month. It entirely depends on his workload and regularity for printing things. Additional you have to factor in the TCO of the printer, along with the inconvenience of actually printing that many pages in a batch (first world problems I know). Nothing against OKI's, but considering the cost of printing a 300 page book here in Australia is ~$15 depending on the run... I'd just do that and then you don't have to worry about it.

Again it depends on the scale and the lifespan of a number of different components.

To break down the costs a little (prices are retail AUD for all components):
Toner - $111 / 7000 pages / $0.0159 Per page
Image Drum - $140 / 250000 pages / $0.0056 Per page
Printer - $260 / 108000 pages / $0.0024 Per page (based on 3000 pages per month over it's three year warranty period)
Paper - $4.99 / 500 pages / $0.0099 Per page (correction $0.005 per duplexed page)
Fuser - $150 / 60000 pages / $0.0025 Per page (probably shorter lifespan if you are doing long runs)

Total Cost per page (assuming you have no other components fail) - $0.0363 ($0.0313 duplexed)

Price to print 1000+ pages at a printing place around the corner - $0.05 per page

10,000 pages printed professionally: $500
10,000 pages printer personally: $313

Cost difference: $187
Time difference: Probably about 5 hours of babysitting print jobs....

Guess it depends on what your time is worth to you, considering the output bin on most small printers is only 100 pages (assuming you don't get excessive curling, which you probably will)... Personally I'd just send the printing dudes the file, have them print it, collect it on my way home. Done.

 

[taz420nj]

Then don't pay for binding.....

That's it's maximum duty cycle, recommended duty cycle is 250 to 3000 pages per month. It entirely depends on his workload and regularity for printing things. Additional you have to factor in the TCO of the printer, along with the inconvenience of actually printing that many pages in a batch (first world problems I know). Nothing against OKI's, but considering the cost of printing a 300 page book here in Australia is ~$15 depending on the run... I'd just do that and then you don't have to worry about it.

Again it depends on the scale and the lifespan of a number of different components.

To break down the costs a little (prices are retail AUD for all components):
Toner - $111 / 7000 pages / $0.0159 Per page
Image Drum - $140 / 250000 pages / $0.0056 Per page
Printer - $260 / 108000 pages / $0.0024 Per page (based on 3000 pages per month over it's three year warranty period)
Paper - $4.99 / 500 pages / $0.0099 Per page (correction $0.005 per duplexed page)
Fuser - $150 / 60000 pages / $0.0025 Per page (probably shorter lifespan if you are doing long runs)

Total Cost per page (assuming you have no other components fail) - $0.0363 ($0.0313 duplexed)

Price to print 1000+ pages at a printing place around the corner - $0.05 per page

10,000 pages printed professionally: $500
10,000 pages printer personally: $313

Cost difference: $187
Time difference: Probably about 5 hours of babysitting print jobs....

Guess it depends on what your time is worth to you, considering the output bin on most small printers is only 100 pages (assuming you don't get excessive curling, which you probably will)... Personally I'd just send the printing dudes the file, have them print it, collect it on my way home. Done.

Sure dude, why bother having the convenience of a printer at home when you could just pay someone extra to do it for you every time you need something done - because not every job is going to be 1000+ pages and will cost more than 5c a page. Seriously?? He wants a friggin printer at home. Stop inventing silly reasons for him not to buy one. Maybe they don't have a Kinko's on every friggin corner in Istanbul like they do by you.

 

[Solaris17]

Lexmark

HP

Laser

or okidata

those thigns run forever for no reason.

 

[taz420nj]

Then don't pay for binding.....

That's it's maximum duty cycle, recommended duty cycle is 250 to 3000 pages per month. It entirely depends on his workload and regularity for printing things. Additional you have to factor in the TCO of the printer, along with the inconvenience of actually printing that many pages in a batch (first world problems I know). Nothing against OKI's, but considering the cost of printing a 300 page book here in Australia is ~$15 depending on the run... I'd just do that and then you don't have to worry about it.

Again it depends on the scale and the lifespan of a number of different components.

To break down the costs a little (prices are retail AUD for all components):
Toner - $111 / 7000 pages / $0.0159 Per page
Image Drum - $140 / 250000 pages / $0.0056 Per page
Printer - $260 / 108000 pages / $0.0024 Per page (based on 3000 pages per month over it's three year warranty period)
Paper - $4.99 / 500 pages / $0.0099 Per page (correction $0.005 per duplexed page)
Fuser - $150 / 60000 pages / $0.0025 Per page (probably shorter lifespan if you are doing long runs)

Total Cost per page (assuming you have no other components fail) - $0.0363 ($0.0313 duplexed)

Price to print 1000+ pages at a printing place around the corner - $0.05 per page

10,000 pages printed professionally: $500
10,000 pages printer personally: $313

Cost difference: $187
Time difference: Probably about 5 hours of babysitting print jobs....

And that's a bold - and completely unrealistic - assumption that those 10,000 pages will be printed all at once.. Considering it's not, your print shop's $0.05 per page turns into $0.10 per page, which means you're spending $1,000 at the print shop, while your home printer still costs you $313. Then there's the fact that drums can be reused at least once before they show any defects in print. Sometimes twice, and then they start streaking about 1/4 to 1/3 way through their third run. Done it, know it works.. Toner you never pay full price for because almost all toner cartridges can be easily refilled, or have 3rd party cartridges available for a fraction of the price of OEM. I pay $40 for 5,000 page refills of all three colors, and $20 for a pound of black (about three fills, 15k pages) - versus the $112 per Oki branded 5k cartridge (times 4 colors = $448)

Guess it depends on what your time is worth to you, considering the output bin on most small printers is only 100 pages (assuming you don't get excessive curling, which you probably will)... Personally I'd just send the printing dudes the file, have them print it, collect it on my way home. Done.

Considering it'll print 100 pages in about 3 minutes, that's not a whole lot of babysitting.....

 

[denixius]

First of all, thanks these suggestions and criticizing about printers. I will consider them all.

Sincerely,