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If it is so for the psus you guys are talking about, than buy a Mercury Psu just as mine. It came with the case, inside and to tell the truth 3 years of use and not a problem with electricity which is a real problem in my country (at least it was 2 years ago) for the crappy you guys talk about...
It just says to me: "don't hear the other person's opinions man, i am mercury. I blow up when i want to, not when other people want me to!!!" or at least i hope so :p
Anyway MERCURY, even as a name seems to kill you, imagine it as a psu... ahahahahah!
So people!!! Wake up and see that there is no real difference. It is all marketing.
The more renown the trademark, the more it will cost. Only the 80PLUS thing seems interesting to me, nothing else. That's cuz here the electricity bill is higher than in Canada!
Pls buy what you want, not what people say. I suggest XFX, cuz it is cool as a design and the 80 PLUS certified Silver is an addition too.
http://xfxforce.com/en-us/products/psu/black-edition/P1-750B-CAG9.aspx#1
 
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Ah, about CoolerMaster GX. Take a hot review. Personally I won't touch anything from CM.
Only the 80PLUS thing seems interesting to me, nothing else.
Readme. 80+ certification is almost nothing. They test PF and efficiency in some synthetic test conditions and after paying a fee they put a badge with 80 Plus Standard, Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum on models.
 

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i dont see why the OCZ is getting dissed as 3rd best or last resort had one running over a year pulling over 80% of its output rating as far as reliability and everything else i rate it with my PCP&C turbocool 510w

on the 500w modxtremepro OCZ
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no big spikes or anything else like that built by a good OEM and hasn't gotten any bad reviews
 

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Readme. 80+ certification is almost nothing. They test PF and efficiency in some synthetic test conditions and after paying a fee they put a badge with 80 Plus Standard, Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum on models.

From the review it looks to me as if they are just showing off what they do, as it is better than the 80 plus certification. Anyway, i.e 650W certified 80+ bronze (85%) outputs nearly 550W.
So the consumer knows what he is buying. I said i am interested only in 80plus certification, cuz from my experience all Psus are the same thing and you really don't need any
"industry grade" materials, as no Psu i have used, even the old IBM i have had since 1986 had any problems. So only efficiency is important for me in a Psu and i know all are wrong searching for better trademarks or materials as they are nothing. No psu has blowed to me yet. I am sure none will "explode". Imagine one in 2010 to explode, it is really stupid to think of it. At least the certification assures me that what i am buying is worth the money or not.
Fun fact: My psu is more than 77% efficient as i am using 270W from 350W peak power :p
 

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From the review it looks to me as if they are just showing off what they do, as it is better than the 80 plus certification. Anyway, i.e 650W certified 80+ bronze (85%) outputs nearly 550W.
So the consumer knows what he is buying. I said i am interested only in 80plus certification, cuz from my experience all Psus are the same thing and you really don't need any
"industry grade" materials, as no Psu i have used, even the old IBM i have had since 1986 had any problems. So only efficiency is important for me in a Psu and i know all are wrong searching for better trademarks or materials as they are nothing. No psu has blowed to me yet. I am sure none will "explode". Imagine one in 2010 to explode, it is really stupid to think of it. At least the certification assures me that what i am buying is worth the money or not.
Fun fact: My psu is more than 77% efficient as i am using 270W from 350W peak power :p


thats just not true and your system does not pull 270w no were near it i had one pretty similar with a higher end video card and it didn't pull 270w at the plug under 100% load. spec for spec they were almost the same Athlon 64 3000+, machspeed K8M8MS rev2, 2x512mb DDR1, 60gb maxtor drive, BFG 7800GS AGP, 450w PSU.

i know there are differences in PSU's just because a raidmax PSU says it is rated 80+ and 550w does not mean it can handle that load however an OCZ, Tt, PCP&C etc all can output there rated loads. your luck may account for having a very low wattage rig but when my VGA cards by themselves consume more juice than everything in your rig combined i tend to fall on the safe side and get a brand i trust. i myself have killed multiple PSU's 2xRF 650w (topower built) a BFG ES 550w the list goes on and those aren't even poorly built units. i personally don't buy because it says 80+ i buy off of who makes it. if the OEM is reliable then i can count on PSU not to blow out on me ad even then you get some duds or ask to much from a rig ie my psu's blew running them in tandom on a DICE run with SLI/XFIRE.
 

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from my experience all Psus are the same thing and you really don't need any
"industry grade" materials, as no Psu i have used, even the old IBM i have had since 1986 had any problems.

You are one lucky boy, for my household its always the psu that craps out.
 
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It is not an Athlon 64 3000+, but a Sempron 3000+ instead, overclocked from 1.8 to 2.4Ghz. It is a Pci express card which has double the bandwidth sucking double the wattage. Did i forget to mention that my card was overclocked to max??? Oups, it has the clocks of the memory more than 8600GS which means a big trouble for the 7800GS one, cuz it has lower default clocks and it is agp. This means a lot. The cpu must work more.
The motherboard has to handle the 1TB seagate barracuda, dvd-writer etc. Bear in mind that everything here is overclocked and i used the xtreme system calculator to know what wattage i get. I must say that you have no other choice even if you want to, there is no way to buy a cheap psu at that wattage you need to.
One last thing is: What if there is a trademark you have not heard of before??? It can be the best one out there, but you are afraid because you have never heard of it before.
The same strategy as nvidia did. It let ati radeon to challenge with 40nm technology first, but it resulted faulty. What i say is more of a life experience rather than material experience.
But don't tell me you live in USA cuz the voltage there is 2 times lower!!!!
 
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Anyway, i.e 650W certified 80+ bronze (85%) outputs nearly 550W.
Nope, you misunderstand efficiency. A good 650W PSU with 85% efficiency at 50°C will outputs 650W DC and draw 765W AC from the wall (765W AC x 0.85 efficiency = 650W DC).

80+ is a good thing but I rather prefer a well build PSU which can deliver all it's power at 50°C with minimal ripple and tight voltage regulation instead a crappy one which has only a 80+ badge and is tested at 23°C room temperature without a word about ripple.
Imagine one in 2010 to explode, it is really stupid to think of it.
Think then. The only difference between exploding a craptacular PSU and a good one is that the good one dies itself without burning your whole PC.
 
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Ahahaha yeah i was distracted about the efficiency :p
How comes that mercury still is not exploding, cuz that guy had such a great trademark and it exploded. Is mercury the best of all??? And none knows it? :)
 
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Ahahaha yeah i was distracted about the efficiency :p
How comes that mercury still is not exploding, cuz that guy had such a great trademark and it exploded. Is mercury the best of all??? And none knows it? :)

I cant believe that you are so thick... the mercury does not explode because its not supposed to. Its more likely to blow up.
 
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Ahahahaha well i am well prepared for it to blow up and i become slim as i was 3 years ago :p
 

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@cdawall
It is not an Athlon 64 3000+, but a Sempron 3000+ instead, overclocked from 1.8 to 2.4Ghz. It is a Pci express card which has double the bandwidth sucking double the wattage. Did i forget to mention that my card was overclocked to max??? Oups, it has the clocks of the memory more than 8600GS which means a big trouble for the 7800GS one, cuz it has lower default clocks and it is agp. This means a lot. The cpu must work more.
The motherboard has to handle the 1TB seagate barracuda, dvd-writer etc. Bear in mind that everything here is overclocked and i used the xtreme system calculator to know what wattage i get. I must say that you have no other choice even if you want to, there is no way to buy a cheap psu at that wattage you need to.
One last thing is: What if there is a trademark you have not heard of before??? It can be the best one out there, but you are afraid because you have never heard of it before.
The same strategy as nvidia did. It let ati radeon to challenge with 40nm technology first, but it resulted faulty. What i say is more of a life experience rather than material experience.
But don't tell me you live in USA cuz the voltage there is 2 times lower!!!!



just because pci-e has more bandwidth doesn't mean it draws more wattage you actually have that backwards that 7800GS way outdraws the 7600 cards and the 7800GS was overclocked past what a 7900GS could do i have dumps from the card still. my 3000+ was a 130nm chip and likely drew more wattage than your 3000+ sempron does it was also overclocked to 2.4ghz. also my old maxtor drew more wattage than your 1TB drive its an old style IDE drive as were the 2 IDE DVD drives i had.

also i have had many different PSU manuf in my rigs the thing that is constant is the OEMs that make the PSU's those have not changed in quite some time. i buy off that and what i see happening in the marketplace and honestly sometimes i take some risks i have had some very unknown board/videocard manuf.
 
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Well my card does not have a manufacturer name at all. Even at gpu-z it does not show up. So after all it is better than all normal 7600gs as i can play assasin's creed with 20 fps or higher if i lower all settings.
 
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Well it seems I've narrowed it down to four psu's.
Either Antec 550W TruePower: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=23_41&products_id=119097

Xigmatek 700w 80+: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=23_41&products_id=125308

Corsair 650w: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=23_41&products_id=113795

OCZ MODXSTREAM PRO 600w 80+: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=23_41&products_id=122128

These are all good psu's, I'm leaning to the Corsair one or Xigmatek one? Is Xigmatek a good brand with psu's?
 

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Well my card does not have a manufacturer name at all. Even at gpu-z it does not show up. So after all it is better than all normal 7600gs as i can play assasin's creed with 20 fps or higher if i lower all settings.

i have had several non-branded cards that doesn't make them better than any other card. also the 7800GS could do anything your overclocked 7600GS did at stock settings its an old cheap VGA card my HTPC pulls less juice and has more power...

Well it seems I've narrowed it down to four psu's.
Either Antec 550W TruePower: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=23_41&products_id=119097

Xigmatek 700w 80+: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=23_41&products_id=125308

Corsair 650w: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=23_41&products_id=113795

OCZ MODXSTREAM PRO 600w 80+: http://ijk.com.au/branch/ijk/product_info.php?cPath=23_41&products_id=122128

These are all good psu's, I'm leaning to the Corsair one or Xigmatek one? Is Xigmatek a good brand with psu's?



i vote the corsair
 
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i have had several non-branded cards that doesn't make them better than any other card. also the 7800GS could do anything your overclocked 7600GS did at stock settings its an old cheap VGA card my HTPC pulls less juice and has more power...

Oh really??? Give me some benches, than we have a real talk here.
 
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Oh really??? Give me some benches, than we have a real talk here.

google them the 7800GS beat the 6800ultra can your 7600GS even accomplish that?

and the 4650 GDDR3/phenom quad core in my HTPC would eat your 7600GS up :roll:
 
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The 7600gs is equivalent to a 9400gt, both have same memory, bandwidth and similar shaders if you add the 16 unified on the 9400gt and the 12 vertex/5 pixel shaders (if i'm correct) on the 7600gs, they are both very similar cards.
 

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Given that I have 10 or so Corsairs/Seasonics that would be my vote.
Never even read your list......for me it's a no-brainer (which is good cos I have no brain :laugh:)
 
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google them the 7800GS beat the 6800ultra can your 7600GS even accomplish that?

and the 4650 GDDR3/phenom quad core in my HTPC would eat your 7600GS up :roll:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7044/32649297.png
What were you talking about??? My card even beats the 7600GT overclocked to max.
You can download that program i used to bench my card and that publish the results
http://freestone-group.com/video-card-stability-test.htm
I hope you find a very easy way to defeat my card in this bench.
Bear in mind that even in x64 or x32 the result will be the same, cuz i have tested myself.
Even in windows 7 or xp still the same result.
I just don't want to overclock my card more, cuz it can reach without difficulty <200 points.
Yours is agp so still i am waiting for a result, cuz in overclock mine takes more points than a 8600GS with default clocks. Remember that you said your card can beat mine without even overclocking, so in default clocks. I hope it is not a "suicide" by your side.
Publish the results and we will have a REAL talk here, unless you are afraid.... :cool:
 

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http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7044/32649297.png
What were you talking about??? My card even beats the 7600GT overclocked to max.
You can download that program i used to bench my card and that publish the results
http://freestone-group.com/video-card-stability-test.htm
I hope you find a very easy way to defeat my card in this bench.
Bear in mind that even in x64 or x32 the result will be the same, cuz i have tested myself.
Even in windows 7 or xp still the same result.
I just don't want to overclock my card more, cuz it can reach without difficulty <200 points.
Yours is agp so still i am waiting for a result, cuz in overclock mine takes more points than a 8600GS with default clocks. Remember that you said your card can beat mine without even overclocking, so in default clocks. I hope it is not a "suicide" by your side.
Publish the results and we will have a REAL talk here, unless you are afraid.... :cool:

why should we trust a random program that no ones ever heard of?

Test something with usable results like 3dm06 or vantage (GPU score only)
 
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