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Who'll be the better president?

Discussion in 'TPU Frontpage Polls' started by W1zzard, Oct 1, 2008.

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Who'll be the better president?

Poll closed Oct 6, 2008.
  1. Barack Obama

    1,290 vote(s)
    57.9%
  2. John McCain

    333 vote(s)
    14.9%
  3. But I want George W. Bush

    177 vote(s)
    7.9%
  4. Don't care

    429 vote(s)
    19.2%
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  1. Rammsteiner New Member

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    Slight correction, the most right president the French chose is Sarkozy. Also I didnt hear anything negative about Sarkozy, at least not something that really matters.

    Also if Pim Fortuijn didnt get killed by some nice activist, he might have become the president of The Netherlands. He was pretty right yet not nationalistic.

    Also, it's hard to get right winged governments. There was a slight lack off it after the 2nd WW (why I dont know, Nazi's actually were still left winged but they call it right winged). Left winged parties and/or central parties were chosen all the time. Right winged people got fed up with it, children of them go nuts over it + nowadays fuck ups from foreign people and go extremist which at the same time shows to most voters right wing is still bad:wtf:.

    Also, from Blair's past, I think it isnt worth a crap what UK/UK politics like since he liked Bush as well.


    Yes I got that the first time, yet 50% of earlier named things from me are NOT the past but current. So while you disapprove Obama's choise of taxes because it would be unfair or stealing, your current government and McCain would continue to do the exact same thing. Not to American people, but to the rest of the world.

    Well, I think I pretty much explained it in one sentence already. Succes depends on what point of view. Although I'd love to have 10mil Euro's, you can still live royally from 20K Euro/year earnings from work, so what does this 10M Euro buffer add to my succes?

    No of course the other guy does not have the right to go whine for your money, I never said that and Im against that.

    Well, that's true. But then again such people generally dont get a lot of support anyway ( if the choice for the 3 babies and to drop out of school was really her free choice that is).

    That's very true. But although I love drugs, people using it cant only hurt them selves but also others. That's why it's forbidden as well.

    Ive said it lots of times in RL especially, humanity is not made for liberty/freedom. I think the most perfect way would be as in Brave New World, but it's impossible to get that going in anyway. It sounds damn awefull at some points, but just because the people dont know better no one knows how it would be different.

    It's not the point who said that Democrats and Socialists were the same, some people here said Obama is a socialist, meaning people have no clue what socialism is about.

    Also I think there's not a lot of right to crap over ACORN, as far it's true in the first place, since our lovely Bush didnt get in his office very clean. Also Palin forms actually quite some danger with her extremist God stuff. I dont see a lot of differences between her and general Middle East religious leaders:banghead:
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  2. WhiteLotus

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    I don't see the big Hoo Har about Barack Obama being muslim (if he is one). Should it really matter - NO. Not one iota should it matter. IMO it only matters to you if your unsure about yourself, which says a lot about the type of person that you are.
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    Really? I seem to recall a "National Socialist German Workers Party" caused some trouble back in the 30s and 40s in Europe.
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    whats the need of this flaming?
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    couldnt agree more. on everything.
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    Dobson - "He's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology."

    Pot meet kettle.

    My family are fundamentalist Christian evangelicals, as was I for a few years. I used to read the bible every day so I know just how full of absolutely immoral, contradictory nonsense it is. Nice to see that Obama, who I for the most part don't like, is willing to admit that unlike that lunatic Dobson.
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    What comments? There was a total of 7 seconds of him vaguely saying something containing references to biblical phrases. From that clip, we have NO idea what he was talking about, or what the context was. The following commentaries have absolutely nothing to do with anything.

    Obama could have been talking about something he overheard 2 rabbis saying at McDonalds for all I know.
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    Flaming?

    Hardly, but perhaps you agree with mdm-adph?

    Personally, I believe that anyone not eligible to vote in this election, i.e. American citizens, should not be making comments in this thread.
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    ?? The only problem with this statement is the unfortunate fact that ....When America sneezes, the world gets a cold. So, cold victims need a voice here.
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    Why? The title of this thread is who would make the best president, i didnt realise that only US citizens had a right to an opinion. Sometimes it is easier for some outside to see a little clearer looking in.
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    Many Americans have a superiority complex since we our guns are bigger than everyone else. Sad but true.

    You're just jealous of our freedom, anyway ;)
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    Thats not true..................................................../////////////////////
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    mdm-adph New Member

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    Hear a "whooshing" sound above your head?

    That was the joke missing you by a mile. :p
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    That has to be the silliest comment yet.
    Why should we not have an opinion on to who we think will be the better President? Last i looked this was a debate to discuss this - not a place where Americans only can come and argue about who's better at what.
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    Lol, the sad thing is, you really do think you are more free than anyone else, I would be interested in your definition of free in that case, and actually, your guns are not any bigger, you just have more than most, whether you know how to use them better........now thats another thing :p
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    What? the fact that not just US citizens are entitled to an opinion of the fact that sometimes being outside looking in can give a clearer insight?
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    +1. Americans are free, but not any more free than anyone in England or Australia (maybe censorship-wise, we are! XD) or European countries other than England.
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    Thanks, although, I am not suggesting your not free of course, just genuinly not sure of the typical definition of free which could be anything really, I know that my US friends refer to their country as "the land of the free" but just not sure what it really means by definition.
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    I think it's supposed to mean that we're independent.
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    JC316 Knows what makes you tick

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    Actually, freedom over here is defined by how big your bank account is. You can get around almost any law provided you have the cash to do so.
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    From what I know people actually refering to 'The land of the free' are the most 'dangerous'. As long as you do visit the church every sunday, believe in God, are very nationalistic towards your state and/or country etc etc, then you're indeed in the land of the free. Now how free is this exactly?:wtf:

    Freedom is like fair and succes a very spread out argument and actually in most situations, freedom is one big lie.

    Hmmm, that's in a lot of countries though. The bad part though is that often all the high auhoritic people are either friends or family in most situations. Sometimes you wouldn't even need money but with people like that in your family the chance is big that you can just let your crime disappaer by yourself anyway. Problem of that however is that if this certain family does not like you and/or does not support your opinions you've no chance at all. They'll take your bribe money and add bribing to their list of crimes.
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    More free than in 1940, thanks to someone.
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    What? what ever your having send me some.:D

    on a side note this will make you obama supporters happy.

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