Why is PC gaming not as big as it once was?

HossHuge · Sep 9, 2011

Other than demos, are there any free games for consoles? I haven't played a console game since my Gamecube a million years ago.

I mean if there aren't shouldn't this help PC gaming more?

jacob90 · Sep 9, 2011

PC gaming sucks now because its very expensive to keep up. its not worth it anymore. the majority of the users are not enthusiasts. im not a hardware geek or enthusiast. PC gaming needs a permanent solution for everything to be popular and affordable for the majority. i blame those greedy profiteering gluttons such as Intel, amd, nvidia to make pc gaming expensive.

and dont tell me about those people who cant live without purchasing a new hardware every bloody 6 months. because these kind of people are in the minority.

these things are ruining the pc gaming, not piracy. piracy and pirates are just a myth.

BumbleBee · Sep 9, 2011

HossHuge said:
Other than demos, are there any free games for consoles? I haven't played a console game since my Gamecube a million years ago.

I mean if there aren't shouldn't this help PC gaming more?

consoles have free games and the free to play business model is coming.

Vancha · Sep 9, 2011

"Why is PC gaming not as big as it once was?"

Is it not?

http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2010/04/19/hear-that-knocking-sound-its-pc-gaming/

Between WoW, Steam and social games (Farmville and the like), I suspect it's bigger than ever.

GSquadron · Sep 9, 2011

Play Assasin's Creed and you will understand the signs and the robe ezio has which made the difference of pc gaming. Also, Nicole Scherzinger has the same signs and robe in her videos. Why both of them are famous? The signs which they know. There is no need to fool the fools

Champ · Sep 9, 2011

i didn't comment at the beginning, but I'll throw a bit in now. I think PC gaming is better now than its ever been. Games are spotty at best, but that's on the makers. Lots of manufactures are making hardware specifically for the gaming crowd or expanding to it. Newer OSs are geared more toward the gamer crowd also. It seems like a lot of the major advances in the PC world direct affect us gaming wise or the other way around. My buddy that is a hardcore console gamer wanted to buy my rig when he saw a lot of the games and some of the same title he had on console look and run better and my rig was craptacular. I think its people not just giving it a try. I know guys now i their 20's that don't know what a flashdrive is or know how to download music. I'm so serious. People fear what they don't understand and you must have a good understanding of PCs all the way round to build good combos, OC and all that good stuff.

erixx · Sep 9, 2011

PC gaming is good this year! I have more games installed than ever and enjoy em every day or two.
Of course there are things to fix, but...

phanbuey · Sep 9, 2011

erixx said:
PC gaming is good this year! I have more games installed than ever and enjoy em every day or two.
Of course there are things to fix, but...

BUT THE GRAPHICS ARE AWESOME... oh yeah and I don't have to use stupid thumbtacks to aim. :laugh:

jacob90 · Sep 9, 2011

xbox is better than pc.

chaotic_uk · Sep 9, 2011

jacob90 said:
xbox is better than pc.

xbox is a pc but cut down :rolleyes:

Deleted member 24505 · Sep 9, 2011

The xbox is a cheap mans pc

El_Mayo · Sep 9, 2011

Vancha said:
Is it not?

http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2010/04/19/hear-that-knocking-sound-its-pc-gaming/

Between WoW, Steam and social games (Farmville and the like), I suspect it's bigger than ever.

Yeah I wrote about how social games are massive and Zynga are the biggest profiting game developer (I THINK so anyway, I'll need a source)
And I'm gonna write how WoW is big because it's really social and doesn't need a gaming PC

jacob90 · Sep 10, 2011

the problem is with the gluttons such as intel, nvidia, amd who make never ending hardware. if they stop making hardware and just make a permanent hardware and game developers stop making demanding games, then everything will be fine.

i have just been forced to spend $500 to upgrade my cpu, motherboard and ram. and who forced me?

Intel of course.

CDdude55 · Sep 10, 2011

jacob90 said:
the problem is with the gluttons such as intel, nvidia, amd who make never ending hardware. if they stop making hardware and just make a permanent hardware and game developers stop making demanding games, then everything will be fine.

i have just been forced to spend $500 to upgrade my cpu, motherboard and ram. and who forced me?

Intel of course.

I don't see how that makes sense, there is no such thing as making ''permanent hardware'', technology naturally progresses.

No one forced you to spend $500 on a CPU, that was your own choice.(not being mean, just saying that Intel didn't pull out your wallet, you did)

Maban · Sep 10, 2011

jacob90 said:
the problem is with the gluttons such as intel, nvidia, amd who make never ending hardware. if they stop making hardware and just make a permanent hardware and game developers stop making demanding games, then everything will be fine.

i have just been forced to spend $500 to upgrade my cpu, motherboard and ram. and who forced me?

Intel of course.

I'm sorry, what? Developing new and faster technologies make companies gluttons? By your logic, we would still be playing an Atari and not an Xbox.

Deleted member 24505 · Sep 10, 2011

I just spent £280 on mine and i'm loving it so far. roll on some new games.

Mussels · Sep 10, 2011

jacob90 said:
the problem is with the gluttons such as intel, nvidia, amd who make never ending hardware. if they stop making hardware and just make a permanent hardware and game developers stop making demanding games, then everything will be fine.

i have just been forced to spend $500 to upgrade my cpu, motherboard and ram. and who forced me?

Intel of course.

considering you coulda spent $300, or even gone AMD... you wasted your money if all you do is play todays games.

Frizz · Sep 10, 2011

jacob90 said:
the problem is with the gluttons such as intel, nvidia, amd who make never ending hardware. if they stop making hardware and just make a permanent hardware and game developers stop making demanding games, then everything will be fine.

i have just been forced to spend $500 to upgrade my cpu, motherboard and ram. and who forced me?

Intel of course.

I think your are pointing fingers at the wrong direction here, blame technology for advancing and "Forcing" you to upgrade. AFAIK my friend is still running a Q6600 and a 8800GT and is still able to experience all of today's games, so I think deep down you maybe experiencing some TPU upgrade itches? :laugh:

And sorry you also quoted that PC gaming sucks now because of how expensive it is? You obviously don't know what you're talking about as the price/performance ratio of all gaming hardware is much better than it ever was, you could probably make a decent enough PC to run all the games with that $500 you were "forced" to used.

Deleted member 24505 · Sep 10, 2011

random said:
you could probably make a decent enough PC to run all the games with that $500 you were "forced" to used.

Lol says you with your 6950 xfire

DEFEATEST · Sep 10, 2011

I would guess that it's bigger now then ever before. Im sure you can find many web sites that will tell you how many people are online playing at any given time. Look at what Steam is these days compared to a few short years ago. Look at Origin , they have like 4 million users already. Steam will tell you how many peeps are online at any given time. The consoles have made gaming huge, but pc's are still going strong. There are more people playing pc now then at any other time I would imagine. Consoles are just eclipsing gaming in the mainstream.

Frizz · Sep 10, 2011

tigger said:
Lol says you with your 6950 xfire

lol I have my older rig right next to my beast

Q6600 stock
P5Q Pro
4650 1GB
4GB RAM
450watt PSU

this setup could be way under 400 and its good enough to play games on when I have friends over for some coop action eg. borderlands and Dead Island

. If I had a gts 450 or 6770 it'd be even better for gaming

jacob90 · Sep 10, 2011

but why a permanent solution for CPU, GPU, ram and motherboard is not good?

i prefer that. intel, nvidia and amd can make a permanent solution for everything so that we dont have to upgrade often.

i would happily pay for that permanent hardware.

but my wishes are just empty wishes. because no one would be around soon anyway.

earth is going to be destroyed soon enough this year by Planet X or Nibiru. so yeah, we all gonna die anyway.

billcat479 · Sep 10, 2011

Easy Rhino said:
because in the end people do not care about graphics. they just want to have fun. that is why the wii was so successful. and for those who do care about graphics, go outside. the graphics are much better there.

Hi, your right for a lot of people's end results. It makes me think back to the very early days of PC gaming and the early game players like the Atari and the Commodore 64s.
And while these early game players were in a way computers (except for the Atari 2600 I think) they had pretty basic graphics but they had some totally fun games that people played for hours on end.
Today people may complain that a game is not worth buying because the graphics aren't good enough but when the dust settles it's the game that offers the most bang for the buck that wins out.
With some games it's all they got going for them is their graphics and once people see through this to find nothing fun behind the flashy graphics it then gets a real review and it's numbers shrink down fast and any flash and no sizzle 2 comes out it's a flop right off even if it has the best looking what ever.
I keep wishing for a real playable total port for Pacman and missle command and Donky Kong for the PC. Man those were fun games. Space invaders, Astroids... So simple and yet so fun.

BumbleBee · Sep 10, 2011

jacob90 said:
but my wishes are just empty wishes. because no one would be around soon anyway.

earth is going to be destroyed soon enough this year by Planet X or Nibiru. so yeah, we all gonna die anyway.

Captain Planet will save us

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Mussels · Sep 10, 2011

jacob90 said:
but why a permanent solution for CPU, GPU, ram and motherboard is not good?

i prefer that. intel, nvidia and amd can make a permanent solution for everything so that we dont have to upgrade often.

i would happily pay for that permanent hardware.

but my wishes are just empty wishes. because no one would be around soon anyway.

earth is going to be destroyed soon enough this year by Planet X or Nibiru. so yeah, we all gonna die anyway.

the system you have now? its permanent hardware. just game at 1280x720 at medium or low settings and it'll last you for years, just like the consoles.

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