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    I'm suffering a huge hd backup problem, and today I checked ncix.com and a 20 spindle of bd-r 6x just dropped overnight from 37.50can to 25can. So I ordered an LG 12x bluray burner for $85can and 2 spindles of bd-rs for another 50can. That's 1tb of data backup.
    That is also much cheaper than dvd backup. Seems to me this is a really cheap way to make hard copy backups of valuable data, and much safer than expensive hard drives. Discuss?
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    optical media sucks... im not going to stuff around looking for a disk... insert it and then wait 4 years for it to load / transfer.







    i do see a point in making backups on optical media. but its not my thing, i would much rather upload it or if its really important i will store it on a HDD/Flash drive at another location.
     
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    +1 imagine how long it will take the bluray to burn 1TB of data...lol
     
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    22 mins to burn 25gbs. how else are you going to back up critical data? hds die. period. even raid 5 can fail. a hard copy won't fail. if you have critical data, this is the way to go...
     
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    USB 3.0 sticks. I have few 32gb sticks and a couple 16gb's. I also have Two separate 1tb HDD's as backup that aren't even in my computer. I haven't used optical media for quite some time. I do have a USB DVD burner for old games and things like that, but it's rarely connected. DVD-R's can be quite unreliable. Some are just cheap and there's always the likelihood that they get scratched, lost, etc. Luckily I bought those HDD's when they were cheap. Between the sticks and the HDD's it takes about two and a half minutes to back up 25gb's of data.
     
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    But a usb stick can be erased. If the data is critical, and you need a permanent, non-erasable backup, a 25gb disc is perfect. Do you know how many discs I can squeeze into a spindle? Many TBs just in a small one, and if I drop one, oops, it's still okay!
     
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    I've done this for years. At work I use encrypted HDD's. Discs can be erased/destroyed too. Nothing is really foolproof.
     
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    Get yourself a nice HDD with a eSATA and/or USB 3.0. It would be more cost effective in the long run.
     
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    I'm paying 25 bucks for 500gbs of data backup with bluray. Hds are way too expensive. I have tbs of data to back up. It would just cost way too much. And the whole point of mission critical data backup is not to keep it on hds. They are not safe. Period.
     
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    neither is plastic disks,lol
     
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    And look how darn cheap it is for 20 discs/500gbs. So easy to make a backup of something
     
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    Protect your bluray disks, keep them in a friggin vault... can't do that with an hd.
     
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    why cant you put a hdd in a vault?
     
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    So you want to buy hds, fill them, and store them in vaults?
     
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    Its the same concept you are following with your Blu-Rays..
     
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    Yes, but blurays are made for that... what? My hds stay trim and ready for more data, and everything else gets sent to bluray.
     
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    You just need an 8 bay NAS...Blu-Rays are for the movies
     
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    Why are blurays for movies? I can copy any data perfectly well to a bluray. Odd?
    Edit: I don't care about movie playback. Don't care at all. I just want secure data backup.
     
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    if you want secure data backup why did you choose destructible media? Odd?
     
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    Jeez, if I fling an hd at the wall, I could loose all data, if I fling a bluray disc at the wall, it will probably survive. For the cost difference, I still think bluray discs are much safer. You can put it anyway you like, but it's cheaper, and safer than many, even much more expensive methods. I'm poor, so I like this method!
     
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    You're just trolling now. Fling a bluray at a wall and it'll likely shatter.

    No backup solution is bulletproof. Good on you for actually backing your data up.
     
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    Data centers back their data on to other drives. They are just as safe, it's not a closed discussion by a long shot. If you fling any data device at a wall you don't deserve "safe data".
     
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    Okay, maybe that was a reach.... but still, this will work for me extremely well, don't have to invest in a dat system....
     
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    If it works for you it works. I'm by no means trying to convince you to change. It's the best solution for you, not necessarily for others.
     
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    +1

    I keep all of my important data stored on my main drive, so when it crashes I have to freak out and not have any of my data available to me anymore.
     
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