Windows 7 Ultimate RC Build 7100 Leaked for download

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

puma99dk| said:
i no that Vista with SP1 can show 4gb and XP Pro SP3 can show me 3,5gb så why isn't Windows 7 showing anything? that's just my question Mussels, and i use 32bit 'cause i don't have any software using 64bit

So what? You have 4GB of ram and a 64-bit CPU. Why not take advantage of that? Its stupid not too.

newconroer · Apr 30, 2009

Mussels said:
well, microsoft didnt leak it DELIBERATELY.

This build was released to MSDN subscribers 2 weeks earlier than to the public. all thats happened is the MSDN subscribers have reuploaded it to torrents.

So we're talking about paying subscribers? Maybe I'm mis-understanding, but MSDN or can we call them "Tech" members, pay, to get access to such things, and to get it first(among other things obviously!). So if someone 'leaks' - which is shady enough in itself - and everyone has it, then how is that appropriate, when they haven't paid for such access?

If a program is in BETA, and people pay to get access to it, and then they decide it's going to be released for free, that makes it alright for people who did not pay for BETA access, to have it BEFORE the actual release date to public?

Between this, and the words 'torrent' and 'leaked,' I just don't see how it can be justified.

I don't really care if this thread stays open, or if people get free MSDN privileges (essentially speaking), I just don't like forums that continously fall victim to inconsistencies, and if this was SOOO appropriate, then why all the defensive comments regarding piracy, before anyone had even mentioned it?

LiveOrDie · May 1, 2009

O my god do you beleave this guy he's going on about windows 7 what about all the other programs and games leaked onto the net you can't stop it so why bother complaning about it

Shou Miko · May 1, 2009

CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
So what? You have 4GB of ram and a 64-bit CPU. Why not take advantage of that? Its stupid not too.

i am a gamer, even then i like playing old games....

Kursah · May 1, 2009

puma99dk| said:
i am a gamer, even then i like playing old games....

I'm a gamer too, 64 bit works fine with about 99% of everything I've played from freespace 2, flatout, Quake 4, Far Cry, etc just fine. Sometimes running a program in Xp SP2 compatability mode may help, I had to run HDTach for that...but that's it iirc. Game-wise x64 is very solid, I've had x64 for well over a year, I game a ton, have over 20 installed on my PC now, some old, some new, all work great. Utilize the x64 in your CPU and the extra ram installed, definately the way to go with modern operating systems imo.

:toast:

thraxed · May 4, 2009

ya know if 32bit addressed more memory, everyone would use it.

farlex85 · May 4, 2009

thraxed said:
ya know if 32bit addressed more memory, everyone would use it.

Well then it wouldn't be 32-bit. That's like saying everyone would love Hitler if he didn't commit genocide. 64-bit is just an extension of x86 that allows for more memory to be addressed.

DaveK · May 4, 2009

I use 64bit even though I'm only currently using 2GB of RAM, it uses the CPU better, whether it makes a difference or not I don't care too much, but I use it anyway as an OS isn't a simple upgrade to me, I hate reinstalling an OS as it takes hours for me to get it setup so I just use 64bit.

Anyway, is it worth going to 7100 from 7077?

LiveOrDie · May 4, 2009

yes it is worth going from 7077 to 7100 there more than a few bug fixs, and running a 64bit os on 2gb mite be ok for windows 7 but vista it would run like crap

Mussels · May 4, 2009

Live OR Die said:
yes it is worth going from 7077 to 7100 there more than a few bug fixs, and running a 64bit os on 2gb mite be ok for windows 7 but vista it would run like crap

not true. i've built a PC for my mum, its running vista x64 on 1GB of DDR 400 and having no issues.

x86 vs x64 has VERY LITTLE difference in memory usage. there is no noticeable downside to running x64 on systems with less than 4GB of ram!

DaveK · May 4, 2009

Live OR Die said:
yes it is worth going from 7077 to 7100 there more than a few bug fixs, and running a 64bit os on 2gb mite be ok for windows 7 but vista it would run like crap

Vista Ultimate x64 ran fine for me with 2GB of RAM.

JRMBelgium · May 4, 2009

DaveK said:
Vista Ultimate x64 ran fine for me with 2GB of RAM.

People with crappy PC's always seem to run stuff fine... It's like they say it's fine as long as its boots.

I don't want to run Firefox ( 10-15 tabs ), Photoshop, SmartFTP ( uploading files ) together with a lot of software that runs in the background ( Live Messenger, Skype, AntiVirus, etc... ) on a 2GB PC. Especially not when it's 64bit.

A netbook with Vist x64 runs "fine" aswell...

Mussels · May 4, 2009

Jelle Mees said:
People with crappy PC's always seem to run stuff fine... It's like they say it's fine as long as its boots.

I don't want to run Firefox ( 10-15 tabs ), Photoshop, SmartFTP ( uploading files ) together with a lot of software that runs in the background ( Live Messenger, Skype, AntiVirus, etc... ) on a 2GB PC. Especially not when it's 64bit.

A netbook with Vist x64 runs "fine" aswell...

yes i'm sure my PC is a piece of crap. oh wait, its shittons faster than yours.

When i compare how this PC on 1GB of ram runs, i'm comparing it to MY system. sure, it takes a bit longer to boot, and sure - it cant handle 30 tabs open in firefox... big whoop. IT STILL DOES EVERYTHING IT NEEDS TO.

Mike0409 · May 4, 2009

Having an issue in Windows 7, turned UAC off to fix it..but whenever I have UAC On, it locks all of my folders into Read-Only? Can't download or write anything to any folder on any drive. Soon as UAC is off..boom fixed.

Is this a bug anyone else has experienced?

DaveK · May 4, 2009

Jelle Mees said:
People with crappy PC's always seem to run stuff fine... It's like they say it's fine as long as its boots.

I don't want to run Firefox ( 10-15 tabs ), Photoshop, SmartFTP ( uploading files ) together with a lot of software that runs in the background ( Live Messenger, Skype, AntiVirus, etc... ) on a 2GB PC. Especially not when it's 64bit.

A netbook with Vist x64 runs "fine" aswell...

I wish I was able to run Firefox with multiple tabs, Paintshop and Sony Vegas together with Live Messenger, iTunes, LastFM, Avast and Skype together, oh wait, I can, and without problems. Just because I only have 2GB of RAM doesn't mean I can't do simple things like that, I've ran Firefox with 15 tabs all running Java chats and it was fine.

If it didn't run properly I would have fucking done something about it, but I've been running this PC fine for 3 months now.

And for fuck sake, what is it with people saying my PC is crap, I know it's not a beast, sorry for not having a Core i7, 12GB of RAM and 2 4890s, but it does the job and it does it well. So much for being polite and saying it's not that good, but why be so direct and say it's flat out crap. Sorry I'm broke at the moment.

Did you ever stop to think that my PC isn't crappy to me? Just because you think it's crappy, doesn't mean I do. I worked hard getting this PC together myself, and it's not a big deal for a kid to build his own PC these days, but it's a big deal to me and the last thing I want is people always putting it down and saying it sucks. We're not all rich. It took me 6 months just to get the €350 I needed to buy the parts I needed, most of which were deals from a friend.

InnocentCriminal · May 4, 2009

Don't stress folks, Jelle just has sand in his vagina about pretty much everything.

Dave I like your rig, and I like the way you've worked y'butt off to get it. Respect!

vbx · May 4, 2009

DaveK said:
Vista Ultimate x64 ran fine for me with 2GB of RAM.

Try dual booting Win7, you'll be like, omg this shlt is fast. The difference is night and day.

crtecha · May 4, 2009

I've been playing with 7100 RC today and thus far its pretty slick no issues thus far. I have all my work apps installed and running fine.

kyle2020 · May 4, 2009

91.4% downloaded

7100 should be in before the day ends.

bim27142 · May 4, 2009

ahhhmmmmmm... installed it yesterday... so far it's working fine and i have no issues encountered just yet...

but one thing i had observed is that after a fresh install, it's still taking up hardware resources just as vista does... around 10GB of HD space and around 700MB of RAM... now that's idle, right after a fresh install...

i just expected that windows 7 was much "leaner" in this aspect than vista... :wtf:

kyle2020 · May 4, 2009

Just burning my copy to a disc now. Probably install it mid week / weekend time.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · May 4, 2009

puma99dk| said:
i am a gamer, even then i like playing old games....

So what? Just because you like playing old games doesnt mean it wont work on x64. Usually if a game doesnt work with an OS its not subjected to either x86 or x64. If it wont work it just wont work. (so long as its a newer OS)

Take GTA:SA. I just started playing this again. Worked great for XP and Vista. In Win7, it has minor glitches. Id be willing to bet that it wont even run on Microsoft's next OS after Win7.

Its a developer thing not a MS thing.

http://www.xfire.com/profile/lazygeneration05/

Take a look there (click on show entire gaming history). I have been running x64 since Vista RC1 and I havent had issues. The only game I had trouble with running x64 was Chaos Theory. Ubisoft was aware of it but refused to fix it.

vbx · May 5, 2009

bim27142 said:
ahhhmmmmmm... installed it yesterday... so far it's working fine and i have no issues encountered just yet...

but one thing i had observed is that after a fresh install, it's still taking up hardware resources just as vista does... around 10GB of HD space and around 700MB of RAM... now that's idle, right after a fresh install...

i just expected that windows 7 was much "leaner" in this aspect than vista...

vista takes more then 700mb of Ram on my system. Win 7 is taking about 650mb of ram. Vista taking over 1.5 gb.

Mussels · May 5, 2009

vbx said:
vista takes more then 700mb of Ram on my system. Win 7 is taking about 650mb of ram. Vista taking over 1.5 gb.

the more ram you have, the more vista takes. it uses 400MB of ram on the 1GB machine next to me.

Why is this still being discussed? i thought this "it uses more ram" argument died years ago.

crtecha · May 5, 2009

Or people can just except technological progression and just buy more RAM its not that expensive.

G.SKILL 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) $ 15 on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231099
That or get a little 2 gig flash drive for ready boost if your running on a gig or less.

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