One question, why is microsoft trying to kill its own baby ? It's as if they see apples encroaching market share as a sign to jump ship from a mouse and keyboard centered model to touchscreen, it doth baffles mee !! And yeah i know the desktop is still there and i imagine you could easily turn off the tiles feature but when most people who aren't tech literate cant even find the run command when you tell them where it is or how to search for it using the windows search feature, it really puts doubt into my mind as to the effectiveness of 8. I personally might upgrade to it if i ever find a powerful tablet, but otherwise no.