World of Warcraft "as addictive as cocaine"

[FordGT90Concept]

I got addicted to diablo II, for about 3 years.

THe thing is you find it fun and enjoyable, so going without is going without fun. you get chemically addicted to the fun glands* in your brain. You then add in the friends/peer pressure factor and your friends in game convince you to play more than you originally intended.


*May or may not exist.

Dopamine. A lot of drugs trigger the release of a lot of dopamine which in turn causes a sense of euphoria.

 

[Frizz]

The servers only hold 1000-2000 players from what I understand so that's an arse load of servers.

and an arse load of programmers!

 

[1Kurgan1]

basically what I meant!!
(without swearing of course!)

He was defending wow, read all of that besides the last paragraph, if you skip to the end it sounds the opposite.

 

[h3llb3nd4]

He was defending wow, read all of that besides the last paragraph, if you skip to the end it sounds the opposite.

oh my bad! I tried to read fast so I skipped the middle part! Thanx for that!

 

[Mussels]

really long post

So uhh, how many hours has it been since you logged in to WoW? you seem a little tense there.


As much as what you're saying has some truth in it, fact remains: some people get addicted to it, and it HAS caused people to die. Its retardedly stupid, yes, but facts are facts.

edit: my quote broke, sorry if someone thought it was to a post on this page

 

[Frizz]

Its safe to say that its the best MMORPG game ever released. Its achieved what many MMO's have not with a strong fan base and popularity. Its also made it many times in the news! About how some kids get so addicted to it, they don't go out at all and exercise because of this game... you know how f**king awesome that is?

Imagine if you didn't know what WoW was until now and you read somewhere in the news paper/Internet site that apparently all these people were actually "Suffering" from an addiction playing this game. IMO I would definitely at least try out the content up to level 20 - 40 to see what the hell is in this game lolol.

I know many people who say they quit WoW, its amazing because they talk like they just quit smoking after 10 years. I must admit though its very hard to get into the game if your not a fan of MMO's or traveling great lengths in a game... but face it once your into it, its almost like you'll never get out!

EDIT: It took me around level 46 to get into the game, it took me a year and a half to reach level 60 because of uhm life. But 60 - 70 and end-game raiding got me addicted for another year until Crysis showed me the light back to casual gaming.

 

[ShadowFold]

Saying WoW is the best MMO EVER because 10million play is silly. That's like saying since everyone has ipods, they must be the best! That's not the case. Creative X-Fi MP3 players have superior price/performance and sound quality. Same with WoW and others such as EverQuest2 and Warhammer. A lot of people still play those, they just aren't not as mainstream.

 

[1Kurgan1]

So uhh, how many hours has it been since you logged in to WoW? you seem a little tense there.


As much as what you're saying has some truth in it, fact remains: some people get addicted to it, and it HAS caused people to die. Its retardedly stupid, yes, but facts are facts.

edit: my quote broke, sorry if someone thought it was to a post on this page

Alot of things have caused people to die. Really don't see the point in this post because of that. I'm going stop driving, stop using anything that involves a electric current and move to the woods! Oh wait a tree would probably fall on me in my sleep, crap what am I going to do, nothing is safe

Anyone against the videogame industry is usually against FPS's and if not them, at least a game involving violence with a gun. The odds of someone going to kill people with an axe and shield and maybe shoot the "enemy" with a bow then try and line of sight pull them (lol) compared to someone using a gun is quiet low. What some unstable person does doesn't sit on the backs of the rest of us, what a few people do isn't average. So there might as well be a post like this for anything ever made.

 

[Frizz]

Saying WoW is the best MMO EVER because 10million play is silly. That's like saying since everyone has ipods, they must be the best! That's not the case. Creative X-Fi MP3 players have superior price/performance and sound quality. Same with WoW and others such as EverQuest2 and Warhammer. A lot of people still play those, they just aren't not as mainstream.

To me these are the reasons I say its the best MMO ever released;

- Claimed many many lives of people dead or alive
- Make it in the news multiple times
- Be rated 9's and above out of ten by critics
- Release 3 expansions with each being as successful as the others
- gotten people all over the world to suffer gaming addiction
- get a dedicated episode from south park
- had many celebrities play the game
- Made computer jargon even more popular like "lol" and "pwned"

From my personal opinion which I should have added, it is the best mmo ever created, I'm not trying to conform or nonconform because if I was to conform I would say AOC kicks WoW's ass whereas in reality, AOC has great gameplay and content but so does WoW.

 

[ShadowFold]

That still pertains to my post. Just because everyone plays it, doesn't mean it's the best.

 

[pt]

OH lawd eve isnt that great, not intuitive at all

one of the reasons it's so good
the noobs don't come and play it, only ppl with a brain (altought sometimes some come and we have to kill them)

 

[Frizz]

That still pertains to my post. Just because everyone plays it, doesn't mean it's the best.

Look man its up to personal opinion. I've posted up why I think its the best MMO ever its your turn to post why its not, no point arguing with me. Just look at reviews or statistics or something

 

[Mussels]

Alot of things have caused people to die. Really don't see the point in this post because of that. I'm going stop driving, stop using anything that involves a electric current and move to the woods! Oh wait a tree would probably fall on me in my sleep, crap what am I going to do, nothing is safe

Anyone against the videogame industry is usually against FPS's and if not them, at least a game involving violence with a gun. The odds of someone going to kill people with an axe and shield and maybe shoot the "enemy" with a bow then try and line of sight pull them (lol) compared to someone using a gun is quiet low. What some unstable person does doesn't sit on the backs of the rest of us, what a few people do isn't average. So there might as well be a post like this for anything ever made.

point is its very rare for games to cause harm to people, and its worrying when one game stands out above all the rest.
If one brand of peanut butter caused a few deaths and you heard of it, would you be wary of peanut butter in general, or THAT specific brand/flavour?

I'm certainly wary of a game that has taken lives, just because its so rare.

 

[Frizz]

point is its very rare for games to cause harm to people, and its worrying when one game stands out above all the rest.
If one brand of peanut butter caused a few deaths and you heard of it, would you be wary of peanut butter in general, or THAT specific brand/flavour?

I'm certainly wary of a game that has taken lives, just because its so rare.

Especially if its a game that does not in anyway promote violence, its a fantasy game and people in real life can't kill each other with magic because it doesn't exist.

Take Manhunt or GTA as an example, those games only caused harm because they promoted violence and criminal actions.

 

[CDdude55]

WOW is so boring, you really have to be into all that quests and what not to really be into it. I could of fell asleep playing it.

 

[Frizz]

WOW is so boring, you really have to be into all that quests and what not to really be into it. I could of fell asleep playing it.

No joke, the quests don't feel rewarding at all even when you've grinded for an "Epic" mount you still take a crap load of time traveling.
Though its more about the Community, no doubt you'll be as bored as hell in this game without a guild and would completely see no point in playing unless you're very much into the pvp. I played Burning Crusade at level 70 and raided quite a few times enough to get my Tier 5 armor set look me up;

Name: Grimmjaw
Server: Dath'Remar

I only started seeing the real content at level 70 (Max level back then), the quests don't even have a story in them only some. But I very much like the fact how doing daily quests at max levels affects every other player in the server its innovative and has good immersion, also the fact the it can get competitive against the other servers since doing daily quests at some circumstances open new world content and it becomes race.

All I'm saying is that to me you can't really enjoy the game unless your max level and have a guild of some sort, so I agree with you CCDude its f**king boring and I've only had 1 character throughout the whole time I was playing since I despised leveling.

 

[Super XP]

i don't get this post.. even after reading the article i still don't know what prompted you to start this thread.. but since you did i'll run with it...

first, you're a moron... completely and utterly retarded... you're arguments make no sense.. out of 12 million plus people you bash a game... that you've never played(or even opened)

second, you bought a game never played it and didn't return it... that's worse then the fact that i willing know and pay the 15 bucks a month it costs.

third, yeah there are f'ked up people playin wow that have no lives, live at home(basement), have no social skills, and no will to do anthing else, but i see more in the news and on tv about people addicted to super smash brothers and madden getting kicked out of college, home, apartment because of their obsene addiction to a game that never really changes.

fourth, you've never played... wtf!!! that makes no sense.. either you got dumped by some chick who'd rather play wow than deal with you, or you have way to much free time on your hands, in which at that point in time you need to open that box and try the free trial and educate yourself

fifth, WoW players have no skills... i don't even know what the f*ck this means... everybody excels at differen types of video games, i for one can't play racing games for shit or flight sims... so i suck at video games... i do know that at any given point in time i have to strategically deal with over 80 different abilities and work through close to 100 buttons on screen at any given point in time while watching myself and 4 other teammembers health/mana while dealing iwth the enemy... fps= 10 buttons max for a casual player, and more often then that it's every man for himself..

sixth-l4d compared to wow... i don't even think l4d will sell as many copies of wow let alone have anywhere near as many dedicated players. yeah it won for cooperative play against wow.. which is roughly only like 28-35% of the total wow community as of the last WoW census(the award l4d recieves against wow is in pvp situations), so why don't we compare l4d to the other aspect 25man raids?? wait you can't have a 25man group in l4d... only 4...(what a joke)

and to the person who said they'd challange any wow player to fps and win.. my cod4,tf2, and cs:s team won both the ma and il showdown lan competiions last year. i'll take you up on that.

To everyone-grow the f*ck up-wow isn't a special game, the box doesn't come laced with anything, it's only addicting to some people because if fulfills basic needs like worth and happiness, if that's how someone wants to make themselves feel happy and needed then so be it. i'll tell you this at least while they're playing they're still consumers that spend money(that invariably has to come from somewhere), they don't purchase one game for 50 bucks keep it for a couple years then complain constantly over the fact that the patch isn't out yet(not like you're paying for a patch anyways so why so impatient)

Calm the f**k down, You are a very angry person. Maybe you should take a break from WOW. And I will repeat myself for the 3rd or 4th time, I Didn’t Write The Freaking Article O.K. And yes WOW is a very addictive game. No I did not open my copy, I had the luxury to PLAY any flipping time with my Bro’s or friends PC.

And yes people are F**ked up, and need help, but nevertheless, the game has caused many deaths. Would you want your child to be addicted to this game with them missing school and such without you ever knowing?
Blizzard is a generous with the formula to MMO success. But my petpeve is the monthly rip-off fee’s.
Read the article, don’t blast me because I have an opinion on the matter. That is just stupid. Read the article, read as many posts as you like then formulate an opinionated response without bashing the crap out of me.

 

[1Kurgan1]

point is its very rare for games to cause harm to people, and its worrying when one game stands out above all the rest.
If one brand of peanut butter caused a few deaths and you heard of it, would you be wary of peanut butter in general, or THAT specific brand/flavour?

I'm certainly wary of a game that has taken lives, just because its so rare.

You ever read the Darwin Awards? I would think this qualifies under that, please don't associate the other 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of players with that one moron. Also have you ever played Mortalk Kombat and enjoyed it?

Beyond videosgaes, do you ever drink, do you ever drive, do you smoke? That list could go on an on of stuff everyone does everyday that could cause death if you were to take it to the extreme. Now just because some idiot goes and mixes drinking with driving do you go after all people who drive, or all people who drink responsibly?

WOW is so boring, you really have to be into all that quests and what not to really be into it. I could of fell asleep playing it.

If you think WoW is about quests you haven't played WoW. WoW is about raiding, too bad they made everything so damned easy. Original WoW was fantastic, TBC was meh, WotLK give me a dinner plate and a butter knife I'll tank anything!

And yes people are F**ked up, and need help, but nevertheless, the game has caused many deaths. Would you want your child to be addicted to this game with them missing school and such without you ever knowing?

Blizzard is a generous with the formula to MMO success. But my petpeve is the monthly rip-off fee’s.

Read the article, don’t blast me because I have an opinion on the matter. That is just stupid. Read the article, read as many posts as you like then formulate an opinionated response without bashing the crap out of me.

First off thats the point of ditching school, WoW wasn't out till I was out of school. And I had ditched many a classes and my parents never knew. Isn't that the point. Most kids I knew ditching were going to do drugs though...

Second, there just isn't another genre that provides this much playtime, Blizz wasn't the company who coined month fees, so whats the point here?

And third an you link me all these articles about people dieing from WoW, I am now beyond curious. You make it sound like there is quiet a few of them, so lets see them. A general search on the net all I can really fine is, a Mortal Kombat caused death, a guy playing Starcraft to death, and a few others, none releated to WoW.

Now my question is why not talk about those, seriously to bring up something like this crap is just trying to start drama. Anytime you want a gamer to get real defensive tell him his game kills people, when you hear that crap on the news don't it just really irk you?

 

[CDdude55]

If you think WoW is about quests you haven't played WoW. WoW is about raiding, too bad they made everything so damned easy. Original WoW was fantastic, TBC was meh, WotLK give me a dinner plate and a butter knife I'll tank anything!

I only played a bit on my friends computer and i played the trail of the game also for a bit. Raiding or Quest wise, i still found it boring.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Odds are mmo's just arent for you. No problem with that though, everyone has diff interests. But the end of the game is where the time sink is, the leveling is pretty cool the first time through if you never played an mmo. Well it was, but now you don't run across many others while leveling so it isn't as cool.

 

[CDdude55]

Odds are mmo's just arent for you. No problem with that though, everyone has diff interests. But the end of the game is where the time sink is, the leveling is pretty cool the first time through if you never played an mmo. Well it was, but now you don't run across many others while leveling so it isn't as cool.

Ya, i am just not that into MMO's i guess. I think you really start having fun at the higher levels tho.

 

[Super XP]

You ever read the Darwin Awards? I would think this qualifies under that, please don't associate the other 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of players with that one moron. Also have you ever played Mortalk Kombat and enjoyed it?

Beyond videosgaes, do you ever drink, do you ever drive, do you smoke? That list could go on an on of stuff everyone does everyday that could cause death if you were to take it to the extreme. Now just because some idiot goes and mixes drinking with driving do you go after all people who drive, or all people who drink responsibly?



If you think WoW is about quests you haven't played WoW. WoW is about raiding, too bad they made everything so damned easy. Original WoW was fantastic, TBC was meh, WotLK give me a dinner plate and a butter knife I'll tank anything!



First off thats the point of ditching school, WoW wasn't out till I was out of school. And I had ditched many a classes and my parents never knew. Isn't that the point. Most kids I knew ditching were going to do drugs though...

Second, there just isn't another genre that provides this much playtime, Blizz wasn't the company who coined month fees, so whats the point here?

And third an you link me all these articles about people dieing from WoW, I am now beyond curious. You make it sound like there is quiet a few of them, so lets see them. A general search on the net all I can really fine is, a Mortal Kombat caused death, a guy playing Starcraft to death, and a few others, none releated to WoW.

Now my question is why not talk about those, seriously to bring up something like this crap is just trying to start drama. Anytime you want a gamer to get real defensive tell him his game kills people, when you hear that crap on the news don't it just really irk you?

Just Google for more info. I have no time. I think this game section in this Forum is the best place to make a new thread about this topic. We are talking about WOW, it is a game.

What's retarded is when the media blames video games when somebody gets all violent and attacks somebody or something. That is just ludicrous.

Blizzard may not be the founding fathers of this monthly fee BS, but we are talking about WOW and it's addictive properties are we not?
Lets get back to topic.

 

[Mussels]

You ever read the Darwin Awards? I would think this qualifies under that, please don't associate the other 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of players with that one moron. Also have you ever played Mortalk Kombat and enjoyed it?

Beyond videosgaes, do you ever drink, do you ever drive, do you smoke? That list could go on an on of stuff everyone does everyday that could cause death if you were to take it to the extreme. Now just because some idiot goes and mixes drinking with driving do you go after all people who drive, or all people who drink responsibly?

No i dont drink (Excluding birthdays), i dont smoke (excluding the cigars i won here on TPU!) and i drive as little as possible, despite the fact i was a delivery driver for 2 years.

As i said: if you heard of coca cola or pepsi killing a few rare people, wouldnt you be cautious? A drink so addictive everyone drinks it, and its caused deaths! Yeah you'd damned well avoid it.

You're missing the point and going all defensive, its not that one or two idiots died, we know its a small percentage - its that ANYONE was killed by a GAME. IF this was a sport, like football, rugby or soccer you can bet your ass people would be all over it.

 

[Frizz]

What's retarded is when the media blames video games when somebody gets all violent and attacks somebody or something. That is just ludicrous.
.

Here's a very fishy news report in Australia about how a boy got addicted to the game... can you spot the fake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8hfK3RQs2g

Solution to his problem:
MOM stop paying for his f**king ISP or Game.
Get him a new door for his room.

Most games involving a death of a teen is usually the fault of an irresponsible parent. Who the hell wouldn't notice their kid playing WoW for so long even then not do anything about it.

Mom: "OMG how long have you been playing this game for?"
Teen: "16 hours straight since yesterday"
Mom: ":O *slowly walks away*" ..... *Calls for a news report*


Another one from America: Judge Judy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stHF-8GPz0c
LOL

 

[DrPepper]

pff 16 hours a day what a lightweight. I've just come off Empire total war and I was playing since 8 this morning.