Would upgrading to a GPU with more ram stop stuttering?

[cadaveca]

His CPU is fine. This is a software issue.

Ok, prove it. I'm gonna go to the store, buy some batteries for my cheapo vidcam, and prove you wrong. I even have a g15 so I can monitor the cpu usage while in-game, and will show the stutter disappear when cpu usage is NOT 100%.

Then, the OP can view my video, see if this is the behavior he is describing, and we can take it from there, OK?

Will take me about an hour to get the vids posted on Youtube. I expect your evidence to counter mine by then. Like I said, I've been exploring the same issue for the past week or so.

 

[Mussels]

do you own an E7XXX cpu?? I do and simply I had to upgrade. Im saying GO OUT AND BUY SOMETHING FTW!!! im stating this was happening to me and i grabbed a cheap E8400 and whammy! fixed but yes try a defrag and disable your antivirus whilist playing why not

it doesnt hurt to try software first. we should always look at troubleshooting before replacing.

 

[Wile E]

Ok, prove it. I'm gonna go to the store, buy some batteries for my cheapo vidcam, and prove you wrong. I even have a g15 so I can monitor the cpu usage while in-game, and will show the stutter disappear when cpu usage is NOT 100%.

Then, the OP can view my video, see if this is the behavior he is describing, and we can take it from there, OK?

Ummm, I've seen E2xxx cpus run without stuttering. You are the one claiming a cpu fault, the burden of proof lies on you. AKA: YOU nedd to "prove it".

I happen to agree with him and Mussels, it's most likely a software issue.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Ok, prove it. I'm gonna go to the store, buy some batteries for my cheapo vidcam, and prove you wrong. I even have a g15 so I can monitor the cpu usage while in-game, and will show the stutter disappear when cpu usage is NOT 100%.

Then, the OP can view my video, see if this is the behavior he is describing, and we can take it from there, OK?

That will prove nothing man. Something as simple as a labor intensive process can make your CPU go up to 100% while gaming thus causing shutter. The answer lies in helping you and him tune his system correctly for smooth play.

Any smuck can overpower a problem with new hardware.

 

[cadaveca]

it doesnt hurt to try software first. we should always look at troubleshooting before replacing.

You are 100% correct here.

But I'm gonna post the vids to show the stutter with a higher-power quad anyway, based on the troubleshooting I've done myself on my own system, with the same app, and stutter.

That will prove nothing man. Something as simple as a labor intensive process can make your CPU go up to 100% while gaming thus causing shutter. The answer lies in helping you and him tune his system correctly for smooth play.

Any smuck can overpower a problem with new hardware.

Yes, you are right. however, like I siad...I've laready investigated Dragon Age performance extensively over the past little while, and you said it was a software issue. So what software is the problem? At least mussels posts a fix....

 

[Mussels]

true, but there will be a solution, or else everyone would have the problem.


its like how widely reported the slow load times are with resident evil 5 - if you ran teh game in DX9 with Vsync on, the load times went 5x longer.

so many lame theories and excuses were made up for the load times, when in the end it was just a bug in the game that could be overcome (run DX10, or vsync off)

This could be a similar problem, AA and Vsync are where i'd start, followed by audio settings (in windows as well, might be like the CoD WaW issues where it didnt like 24 bit audio)

 

[TheMailMan78]

You are 100% correct here.

But I'm gonna post the vids to show the stutter with a higher-power quad anyway, based on the troubleshooting I've done myself on my own system, with the same app, and stutter.

Friend you can have all the most powerful hardware in the world but if you system is not properly tuned you will get shutter and such. Also never assume everything in your system is properly tuned. This is why we all come here to TPU.

Yes, you are right. however, like I siad...I've laready investigated Dragon Age performance extensively over the past little while, and you said it was a software issue. So what software is the problem? At least mussels posts a fix....

I asked twice to know his cat. settings.

 

[cadaveca]

Friend you can have all the most powerful hardware in the world but if you system is not properly tuned you will get shutter and such. Also never assume everything in your system is properly tuned. This is why we all come here to TPU.

You are assuming I'm a noob though, and I am far from it... Please google my username. I'vebeen aroudn the block quite a few times...used to bench, where tweaking is the ultimate skill.

he simply asked...would going form 512mb card to 1gb card fix the problem...my answer is no...Dragon age specifically requires more cpu power at higher settings. Why? maybe bad coding..maybe just the number of threads running...but my system should SPANK Dragon age...and does...with 3.6ghz quad cpu only.

Right now, my system bounces from 0-1% cpu usage, 55% ram(4gb).

I asked twice to know his cat. settings.

you did. Please accept my apologies for jumping the gun there.

FYI, I didn't come to TPU for troubleshhoting or performance help...back in 2006 I came to ask W1zz to get systool working on my abit board, and together, we did. I haven't asked for help with pc issues for years...rather...I'm the guy that provides help...trying to build some good karma during the idle times in my day. If you only knew man...anyway, I'm off to the store for batteries. I'll be back with video.

 

[TheMailMan78]

You are assuming I'm a noob though, and I am far from it... Please google my username. I'vebeen aroudn the block quite a few times...used to bench, where tweaking is the ultimate skill.

he simply asked...would going form 512mb card to 1gb card fix the problem...my answer is no...Dragon age specifically requires more cpu power at higher settings. Why? maybe bad coding..maybe just the number of threads running...but my system should SPANK Dragon age...and does...with 3.6ghz quad cpu only.

Right now, my system bounces from 0-1% cpu usage, 55% ram(4gb).




you did. Please accept my apologies for jumping the gun there.

I didnt assume anything. What I do know is no one is perfect and can in fact miss something. Lets get back on topic.

 

[cadaveca]

I didnt assume anything. What I do know is no one is perfect and can in fact miss something. Lets get back on topic.

Agreed. Can't argue that!!!

 

[Wile E]

I didnt assume anything. What I do know is no one is perfect and can in fact miss something. Lets get back on topic.

I assume that both you and I are assholes most of the time. Does that count?

 

[TheMailMan78]

I assume that both you and I are assholes most of the time. Does that count?

Nothing to assume there. Thats just cold hard fact.

 

[cadaveca]

Nothing to assume there. Thats just cold hard fact.

Yeah... I'm just a sociopath, and msut bow before your awesomeness. Ayt least you got a senes of humour...I seem to lack this.

I gots me some batteries.

Seriously though, it's pretty easy to open up taskmanager and see what's consuming resources, and even better, Vista's performance monitor, to see what's eating cpu time. If it's nothing other than the app...guess what..more cpu is needed.

then, we can do as suggested, and lower some of the settings...does this recitfy the stuttering behavoir?

I can easily say now, because I've already done this testing, that VRAM is not the issue here, at least, not in a way that will solve the OP's problem.

It's not a big deal to prove that Dragon Age is a cpu hog...ergo, the OP needs a better cpu in order to get the performance he desires..or are you suggesting he's better off tryig to recode the game himself?

 

[20mmrain]

Your overclocked E7XXX Series @3.6 is just fine. Going to a Quad or a i7 right now might help a little but honestly there aren't that many games out there that properly take advantage of Multi core CPU's anyway.
Honestly I think your problem lies in the fact that your playing a high end game @ 1900X1080 with a 4870 that only has 512mb of Vram.
You are probably getting stuttering from that. Now if you do not have the money to upgrade right now (aka 5870 or another 4870 Xfire it or 5970) then I would play with less detail. Weather it be turning off AA or lowering shadows what ever you have to do till you get the money.
If that won't suffice than upgrade your video card first and move on from there. Buy it in pieces..... well that's my opinion hope this helps a little.
Other wise I am maybe considering selling my 5870 to buy the 5970 but that won't be for a little while .

 

[cadaveca]

Hmmm.....V-sync goes a long way to even out framerates....

 

[TheMailMan78]

Hmmm.....V-sync goes a long way to even out framerates....

Geee who would have guessed? Maybe if someone listed some F&#KING CATALYST settings!

 

[cadaveca]

Geee who would have guessed? Maybe if someone listed some F&#KING CATALYST settings!

Doesn't perfect it though. just makes it more even. AI still jumps a fair bit with low cpu speed...

 

[Binge]

Ah I see. I plan to upgrade to an i7 rig with 5970 around 8 months later. Still trying to squeeze life out of my current system. 5770 looks interesting right now D:

Don't upgrade until you have the ability to make a large leap... the slight pauses in gameplay could be any number of issues with your machine. It's likely that a large upgrade would be more beneficial than getting new hardware which is very similar to your current config.

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

More than liekly you dont have enough Vram especially at 1920x1080. 1Gb is reccomended for anything above 1600x1050 typically

Any proof to back up such a statement like that? Most of the 4870 512 vs 4870 1GB that I have seen beg to differ.

 

[Jstn7477]

My post from the thread "GPU-Z 0.3.8 released":

I decided to test out the memory usage monitor with my PNY XLR8 9800 GT 1GB. I played Team Fortress 2 at 1440*900, High settings, 16xAF/16xAF and achieved this maximum memory usage:

Guess i'm glad that I bought a 1024MB 9800 GT.

OS is Windows 7 x64, 191.07 drivers.

 

[cadaveca]

My post from the thread "GPU-Z 0.3.8 released":

AWESOME!!!

Do you have dragon age?

But...that's nV cards, which may not use VGA ram in the same fashion...but it would be a good place to start...

 

[Jstn7477]

AWESOME!!!

Do you have dragon age?

But...that's nV cards, which may not use VGA ram in the same fashion...but it would be a good place to start...

Unfortunately, I don't have Dragon Age. I also ran TF2 again yesterday I think and I still got up to about 560MB of VRAM usage (same settings).

I think that all GPUs would use RAM pretty similarly, since they are displaying the same textures. Team Fortress 2 is a DirectX 9.0c Source game by the way.

 

[cadaveca]

Unfortunately, I don't have Dragon Age. I also ran TF2 again yesterday I think and I still got up to about 560MB of VRAM usage (same settings).

I think that all GPUs would use RAM pretty similarly, since they are displaying the same textures. Team Fortress 2 is a DirectX 9.0c Source game by the way.

Sure, the textures would be the same, but the compression used, as well as how things are rendered, will affect vram usage.

StreetFighter4 stays under 256mb....most like due to the PS3 only having that much.

With games that are primarily designed for consoles, typically vram usage is very small due to the PS3's miniscule amt of ram.

 

[BababooeyHTJ]

Unfortunately, I don't have Dragon Age. I also ran TF2 again yesterday I think and I still got up to about 560MB of VRAM usage (same settings).

I think that all GPUs would use RAM pretty similarly, since they are displaying the same textures. Team Fortress 2 is a DirectX 9.0c Source game by the way.

Half Life 2 Episode 2 at 1920x1200 and 8xAA, a much higher resolution with the same version of the source engine sees a 4fps difference between the 4870 512 and 1GB. Any setting below that seem to see no benefit in this review.


Dragon Age is heavily cpu dependent based on the reviews that I have seen, btw.

 

[rahulyo]

I also face same stuttering problem with my Palit 4850 sonic card in most of games,3d mark 2006 ,Vantage,Furmark test almost in every thing ...

My GPU temp :-
Min =48 and Max = 70

All settings are default in CCC ...