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[XBitLabs] Intel’s New Extreme Processors Will Barely Improve Performance Significant

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by radrok, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. radrok

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    If this is true then we aren't going to see much improvement in the upcoming years, and I guess this is what we get when there is 0 competition.

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    Just like how ib->hsw = no improvement, sb-e->ib-e = no improvement.
     
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    They have to give us an 8 core, it can't be stagnating this much.

    To be honest X79 chipset as it is, it blows.

    I mean come on it's a glorified z68.
     
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    I have been waiting for Intel to release a 8 core CPU so I can finally upgrade my aging i7 970. Sadly it performs pretty well and I just haven't had the urge to upgrade to another 6 core CPU.
     
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    To be honest, If my RIIE didn't die I'd still be rocking my 1366 platform...

    Your purchase will keep you happy for years to come :toast:
     
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    Yeah but I have the upgrade "itch":)
     
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    What's there to improve?
     
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    Core count, we want 8-10 TRUE cores.
     
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    at least 4820 is K... More fun for overclock but i bet will be no sense overpriced too !

    Sincerely im waiting for Haswell for upgrade, i like the energy saving and efficency feature.
     
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    This is something i realy dont care about as hardware is way infront of software. What we need is the software to catch up and make use of the awesome hardware we have. This i find more inportant then a faster cpu
     
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    It'd be amusing if the Ivy based 2011 chips also use generic TIM.
     
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    I'm still sticking around with nehalem because all these later series are rubbish and they provide zero actual benefit. If Skylake won't be anything dramatic, i might not even upgrade at all...
    These tiny bumps of power consumption decrease and GPU speed increase (which i couldn't care about any less with my dedicated graphic cards) are just pointless to spend 250 or 300 EUR on a CPU that doesn't really improve anything. I mean i can still encode videos quickly, i can still play all the brand new games on max settings, so whats the point?
     
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    Not much of a performance increase in the same way ivy wasn't much of an increase from sandy? About 10% if I remember correctly.
     
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    Would have been 20% in multi threaded on a 8 core CPU though.

    The more cores you have the more performance you get from the sum of them.
     
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    So you didn't even get that. What is different between them sandy e and ivy e?
     
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    The first number in front of the CPU tag? :laugh:
     
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    You mean only in Gaming performance...

    Because this CPU's are more capable in others tasks. I have Nehalem too and we should upgrade because of the old SATA controller, i will switch to SSD as soon as possible ! You wont ??
     
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    I see you have the common image of this. Intel is 1. In the world on computer processors, and what we have on the market today is not near what technology intel is in possession of.

    It is very easy to do as intel does today, releasing only a small selection of good processors, a good bit ahead of the competition. Intel IS in possession of technology to make processors that work at 10 Ghz +, at the cost of 400-500 USD.

    But instead, as all companies at all times, they are hilding technology to earn more money. Making regular people think that they are working hard to invent new products, while releasing new processors with a small improvement a few times a year. This forces users to buy their products, because peoples limit for upgrading is very low, and they want the best.

    If you can think of the other small effects this has too, you should see my point.

    Don't :respect: intel, see them for what they are doing...
     
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    Proof?

    Eh. Nope. Totally, totally nope. I won't even bother asking for proof because you cannot provide any for this one.
     
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    Where? In spreadsheets? Who cares for 2 nanoseconds faster operations in there.

    Music encoding? 8 threads at once, crazy fast.
    Video encoding? 8 CPU threads plus GPU assistance in Freemake Video Converter. Very fast for all my endcoding needs.
    Data compression? Again, 8 threads with 7zip (LZMA2, Ultra preset) and it churns out from 10-15MB/s.

    SSD on a desktop? I couldn't care any less about it. My system is ON pretty much 24/7 and all of the important data gets cached in RAM anyway. Ppl are raving about boot drive SSD's where i just can't see a point. I don't need fast boot times if my system is on all the time and even if i shut it down, hybrid sleep/hibernation is just as fast as SSD cold boot.
    I'll go with SSD's in desktop when i'll be able to have a single 2TB SSD drive in it for the price that i paid for my WD Caviar Black 2TB few years ago. Having SSD just for boot is pointless unless it's a netbook or laptop...
     
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    Each to their own I love the general desktop pace im not assed about boot times either, I think its inevitable that their will be diminishing returns chasing Ipc increases I mean there is only so much you can do to approach the optimum transitor operation, it's inevitably going to become more about processing bandwidth increases through core count and speedfrom here on imho , intel do enough I just don't like the aggressive feature fuseing they so love.
     
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    SSD's just aren't viable for me. Their capacity to price ratio just doesn't add up to anything (no real benefits). And i have no intention to pay 1000 bucks for a 1TB SSD drive... When they'll get to some reasonable levels, i'll of course migrate to SSD...
     
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    I do not have much time for forums in my spare time, but i will be on as much as possible.

    I have over 15 years of education in this field, studied in 3 countries. I have specialized my knowledge on this field.

    I cannot provide "proof", because i do not have 100 billion dollars to start manufacturing such components. Think what you want, but see the possibility.

    Why don't you find another specialist and ask, just to get confirmation?
     
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    I do totally agree.

    Just by optimizing games you could run heavy DirectX games on 5 year old processors, without "bottlenecking" for a Gp, or just by using one more processing core.

    Steve Jobs made the Iphone. Tim cook is maintaining the production of the Iphone.
    But the company that makes the Iphone, is Apple. This "Random question" is annoying me.
    It should be changed to "What company is making the Iphone?".
     
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    The 3820 was always around 300 USD, so I suspect it will hold on to a similar price. I don't see the 4920k being much more than 350 USD, 400 tops. At that point though, I would just invest in a 6-core though.

    Also, when the heck was the 3820k released. :confused:
    Must be a typo on that first image.
     

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