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Xbox Live coming to PC: Xbox Gamers Say OH NO! PC gamers agree!

Discussion in 'News' started by NamesDontMatter, May 21, 2007.

  1. NamesDontMatter

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    As everyone knows Microsoft is planning to attempt to merge PC gaming and Console gaming. This plan will without a doubt fail miserably and ONLY to create tensions between console gamers and PC gamers. Why will it fail you ask? Really it’s quite simple. As every PC gamer knows PC gamers have several distinct advantages over Console Gamers ...

    A brief list:
    1. Both Precision and Accuracy of a PC through the use of an optical mouse is by far superior to that of a game pad (using joysticks). This element will critically cripple all First Person Shooter games for console gamers that are bridged between Live and PC.
    2. Hot keys, it’s quite simple really - PCs have more buttons than game pads have. This gives PCs another large edge over console gamers. More hot-keys in the major game categories such as Real Time Strategy Games, First Person Shooters, and Role Playing Games is another huge advantage.

    Most Games are based on speed and reaction time, and the PC has these advantages hands down. Unless Microsoft plans on crippling these types of games, which are all major genres for PC gamers, there will be many angry Console gamers. The only genres I don’t see any issues with are racing games and possibly some simple Flight Simulators.

    But wait, Didn’t I previously say PC gamers Agree they don’t want a merge? If you have ever played Xbox Live you have seen immaturity that exists far beyond belief. I myself have seen very inappropriate racial slurs tossed around with total disregard on Xbox Live, PC gamers SEEM to be less apt to be as immature. I mean of course you hear the same game talk of calling people newbs and a little bit of trash talking, but that’s to be expected in any sort of competition. On Multiplayer PC Games I have never seen people flat out arguing over a game for no apparent reason. I’m sure it happens, but not as frequently as it does on Xbox Live. But wait there are more reasons PC Gamers don’t want to hop on Live. Check out the list below.

    1. As mentioned before maturity is a big factor.
    2. Since when do PC Gamers want to pay 10 bucks for a measly map pack? And these often have terrible new maps in them. Many dislike the whole P2P (pay to play) concept, but gamers dislike even more P2P (pay to patch).
    3. Achievements and Gamer scores, do you really need a score to show how much of a life you don’t have when you’re gaming? X-fire already does that in hours.

    So the outcome will simply be Xbox users getting crushed in bridged games by PC Gamers. Then a new system will need to be devised, if not already being devised by Microsoft to re-segregate the two types of gamers. There will probably be some kind of block feature where PC gamers can block console gamers and vice versa. Not to mention every other PC gamer will be dubbed a hacker by Xbox players. For any of you who gamed in CAL or similar leagues imagine playing against the Xbox console gamers, maybe the Halo masters, yeah I saw you laugh! And the option of forcing PC gamers to use a similar to Xbox game pad would also fail if attempted because as known PC gamers are mighty resourceful and would find a workaround. As the saying goes, back to square one, and Microsoft has done what its best at: wasting time and money.

    My solution is quite simple, polls should be taken by Microsoft and maybe they will see a large majority is against this “revolutionary” idea of theirs. Microsoft claims “We're bringing together two communities that share a passion for playing online games, and we're enhancing the online experience for PC gamers who have long desired seamless game and voice connectivity”

    -Best of Luck to Microsoft.

    Microsoft is ruining something, what they are ruining is for you to decide.

    - Author's notes –
    Regardless to what it seems I do enjoy playing Xbox live and I do game on PC games, but I simply believe as do many others that the idea of merging the two is simply silly. Information used in this article was gathered from multiple PC and Console Gamers. This article reflects the author's stance on such a topic.

    Source: techPowerUp!
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  2. mandelore

    mandelore New Member

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    I wouldnt hold my breath, Microsoft have a hand of crippling most things.

    My poor, poor X-Fi vista EAX support :(
  3. Easy Rhino

    Easy Rhino Linux Advocate

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    i like this because most of my friends play on xbox live and i just have my pc. this way i can get in on the action! plus they dont like paying 2000 bucks for a gaming machine when they can play HD games for 1/4 the price.
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    I like the idea of a xbl for pc. XBL + PC merge you cause all sorts of problems however, all mentioned in the lists. Many of my friends are quote "Halo Gods" yet from what I see them do on a gamepad can be easily done with a keyboard. unless M$ comes out with a wireless kb/mouse combo and lets 360 users to use that there will be no competition. it will be open segregation by players.

    i still havnt touched the compatability problems this would face, the ease of hacking on pcs, and the relitive number of computer gamers vs any certian console gamer... Good Luck wasting your money M$.

    Um easy rhino...we have been playing hd games for years. well unless you play 640x480 that is. what exactly is 720p? 1280x720 60hz... I havnt run under 1280x1024 since i had my 9600xt. My complete computer cost $1200 complete. Go buy a 360, a 1080p tv, surroundsound, etc for under that price.
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    Have you ever played Counter Strike, particularly CS:S as it has the voice chat? :( Talk about immature.
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    hmm, if then can't hear word of advices around them, then let those idiots learn the hard way cos we're soon to ruin the fun with our PC superior abilities
  7. NamesDontMatter

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    Yep I have played CS since it came out. Leagued in both 1.6 and Condition Zero. CS:S is fun too :p. I haven't found CS to be AS BAD as XBL.

    Good point Kenny, that would be a nice add on.
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    Well its about time to get some revenge...:roll: You get what you pay for...Console = ease of use, PC = precision pwning masterpiece! :rockout:
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    For years, I have always pondered the idea. Of course, I have always said it should be PC online gaming and Console online gaming, not PC + Console Online gaming.

    In other words, I am totally against the idea and how many problems will arise when trying to cross platform. Just a mess IMHO .....
  10. regan1985 New Member

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    as a most of new games are all about online gaming these days, the bigger the network the better??

    plus it will stop downloaded games, if that a good thing or not that upto you to decide
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    lol.
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    I pray that Madden will be new like the console versions this year, and so that I can beat up on my Xbox360 owning friends. I think it's a great idea as long as it works, and there is support.
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    Maybe they should merge Xbox and PS3.....
  14. devguy

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    Honestly, who cares? If you are on a console, join a console only match if you don't want to play against PC users and vice versa. However, if the games don't allow this option, then it could become a big problem in RTS/FPS/Racing games (racing giving the upper hand to consoles).
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    Xbox Live on PC is just like what Sega did with the Dreamcast (or something like it) and Unreal Tournament. The PC gamers basically mauled the Dreamcast users.

    Granted, Unreal Tournament was a FPS that basically depends on accuracy. Games such as Oblivion or RTS' may not need the precision of the mouse, so XBL and PC gamers might not even know they're on the same server in that case. We'll basically have to wait it out and see.
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    i like the idea
  17. WarEagleAU

    WarEagleAU Bird of Prey

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    I both like and dislike this idea. On the one hand, my brother can be playing on the 360 and me on the pc (same game) and we can team up and pwn. On the other hand, two pc users can pwn us :(
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    I'm not sure about the Racing games, there are wheels, control pads, and joysticks for PCs as well. I personally like the joystick best for Racing games. *just a thought*

    I do agree this will probably flop, I won't ever use it. Although the thought of pawning all those console noobz sounds fun ;p *sorry had to*
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    Also, the P2P (which means Peer-To-Peer) style of gaming is aweful. PC FPS games have gotten over P2P, and now play on Dedicated servers. PC players will not want to forfeit 20ms Pings to 170ms Pings just so they can cream some Xbox noobs.
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    AMEN BROTHA!!!! HELL YES!
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    PVTCaboose1337 Graphical Hacker

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    PC pwns. These are two different things. We cannot mix them.
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    DaMulta My stars went supernova

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    I have been wating for this from when Bill said it was coming. I want to own those Xboxers but it will piss me off if they have auto-aim.
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    freaksavior To infinity ... and beyond!

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    why don't i play css on xbox? hmm i have to pay for it......now why do i play on the pc? hmm lets see, it's free!

    i will (almost) never pay to play online games on the pc!
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    well because my xbox live GT has expired and my 360 blew up after modding it(a window and spray paint, no backups), im all for having a "REAL" xbox live on my pc, i would have no problem buying a 360 controller to use usb, as long as xbox live is the EXACT same as the xbox version, no fake imitation

    and yes CCS is immature but extremely less than xbox because mothers dont care about gaming pcs, they care about getting there kid the xbox and whatever he wants for it without realizing hes soaking up everything he can learn about talking garbage
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    exactly what i was thinking, i just hope they release battlefield(or other ranked/stats collecting games) so i can stat pad myself silly on a console heavy server, and also screaming kiddies is better than script kiddies

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