All right, so I thought and been thinking of going water, But really haven't found a reason to do it quite yet. I'm now in the process of doing that plung, but thought I should let you guys know the love I have with my two Delta fans. Plus, my thoughts on the new Xigmatek S1284. Delta Fan: The Delta EFB1312VHE fans are probably the most powerful fans that are under $20 here in the US. Yeah, there is a more high powerful Delta fan that is show cased at Sidewindercomputers, but I would never spend $37 dollars for just one fan. Plus with it being a 120x76mm fan, I know my Ram would be covered. Hell, the EFB1312VHE takes up one of my Ram slots as it is. Now you ask, how can one bare with the sound of 55db's running at all time.. It's easy. Computer is in the living room of my grandma's place. They never have the TV lower then 60dbs... So, its still lower then the tv. Then once it's night time I just turn off the TV and I don't have a problem with the noise. I've gotten so use to having 5 women around the house with friends over, that I can sleep anywhere at anytime. No matter the noise. Even can hear my Alarm Clock over it all since I use the Side Bar Alarm Clock. The size of the Delta is out of this world. It is a 127mmx38mm fan. Yes, it is bigger then the normal size. But, it has Screw holes for the ability to fit 120mm case holes. But, it weights a ton! I mean, my grandma couldn't even pick it up with one hand! :shadedshu You could use it a paperweight if needed. The fan's are nothing more then great. It can push over my fake plant that is under the fish tank. Plus, I have to move the case to it's side in order not to break another blind! Now, for the Cooler that's hooked up to this beast! Xigmatek S1284: I have been using the Xigmatek S1283 for a while now. Since it was shown on on Frostytech as rated #1 a while back. I have loved it since then. I had strapped on a 133cfm 120mmx38 Scythe Kaze and used that. The temps where good. But I would never go higher then 3.5ghz with my quad. So, after reading T_Ski Review on the new Xigmatek cooler, I just had to try out another set up before going water. This thing has four heat pipes instead of three. So, I'm thinking its even better at cooling. But, like some others have stated, its better for AMD processors because of the size. One heatpipe lays on the CPU latch of the LGA 775 Chipset. So, since it was A Xigmatek cooler, I wanted to try and use my retension bracket that I got.(Thanks SNEEKY!) Well, to my surprise. The holes on the Xigmatek S1284 doesn't work quite well with the bracket system. As you can see, the Bracket system is completely different. The new one on the S1284 has to curve in order to make up for the way it was cut. It didn't mean I didn't try to make it work! lol... I didn't try any more ways since as you can tell from that last picture, the treading of the screw was almost breaking threw the concrete of the casing... So, I went with the Dang Push-pins... Have a e-mail to Xigmatek right now on if there is a bracket in the works.. TEMPS: Now to tell the truth, I had the Delta hooked up to my old S1283 cooler. And I really wasn't impressed with the temps that I got between these two coolers. Even at load I got the same results. But that might be because of the fact that the S1283 has the retention bracket while the S1284 has the Dang push-pins. Or, is it the fact that the S1284 is more built for the AMD fan base? Could be, but I don't have a AMD rig to test this on. I would suggest anyone that has a AMD rig the Xigmatek S1284 while anyone with a Intel rig the S1283 cooler. But, I would only suggest the Delta fan's to ones that are die hard in wanting to keep with Air cooling. It is what the title of the fans say at Petra. ETREME COOLING! Xigmatek Achilles S1284 A 8/10 Delta EFB1312VHE fans A 9/10 Then for a treat to all. My Youtube Video Wanted to add that the Retention Bracket for the S1284 is now out.