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Discussion in 'Cases, Modding & Electronics' started by DaMulta, Jul 7, 2008.

  1. t_ski

    t_ski Former Staff

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    It's plain distilled water and was clear, then gradually got a little cloudy. One weekend it was pretty warm and I left the rig on all weekend, and it got even warmer in that room. Afterwards I noticed the water was brown. Did I burn it? lol
     
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    It's either tons and tons of bacteria, or some chemical reaction in your loop.
    You're not mixing alu and copper blocks right?
     
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    No mixing going on. I'm wondering if it's a reaction to the Biocide I put in the loop before or something the previous owner used. I should get a silver coil one of these days...
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    OK, I'll just offer this here.


    Distilled water, alone, is a bad coolant. Water can readily accept free ions, whether soluable or not, and moving water generates an electric charge. This means that distilled water will quite often pick up ANYTHING that might be in a loop...coolant additives that have coated the inside of a rad, precipitated there due to cooling effects, or anything else of that sort.


    What we need is something to fill the water to the saturation point, some additive, which will not affect cooling properties. Glycol seems to be a common choice, and I'm pretty sure Glycol isn't good for algae, either.

    IF hte water was saturated, it woudl notbe able to pick up contaminates. Mind you, you jsut cleaned your loop out, too. If I was you, I'd swap out coolant, put in fresh water, run for a coupel fo days, then drain agian. repeat if needed.


    Thoughts on that?
     
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    Kinda lost me there for a moment. So distilled is not good by itself. What would you say is good and still clear that will not contaminate, colorize tubing/res and just overall a good choice? I'm looking to go water very soon and I already have a gal of distilled water lol.
     
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    Dexcool works damn good. I have had the same coolant in the loop for about a year now. No color change and I have drained it a couple of times to check the block/pumps. Refilled the same coolant without an issue.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Hmm, checking it out.


    Not many people relate what I jsut did..in fact, most wil ljstu say that distilled water is just fine...but I disagree. It's basic Chemistry, FFS.

    Isn't it? :wtf:


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    Most people prefer to run the standard "green" vehicle coolant. It is a basic glycol based antifreeze. I use Dexcool for the color I liked the orange it is still glycol based and nothing grows in it. The stuff is rated for 100K miles in a car. That works out to a long time in a PC AFAIC. The stuff is a little thicker hence my dual pump set up, but Dexcool is thinner than the green stuff. I am looking into running the red motocraft for my HTPC. Very similar to dexcool.

    This is my 25% Dexcool loop CPU@4ghz 1.55v

    Room temp is 74F
    CPU is 32C after 2 hours of crysis
    OPT3 is loop temp post CPU pre rads.

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    I use distilled water with a silver coil. Noticed it getting a little murky once, but nothing like the contents of the above reservoir. And I flush it at least twice a year.

    Not a great deal of experience here though. I heard a lot of bad stuff about additives corroding and dyed fluids staining that I decided to go with clear distilled water.

    Besides, it's a heck of a lot cheaper. :laugh:
     
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    Distilled Water + PT Nuke = Win
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Have you even ever HAD watercooling? :laugh:



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    I've heard mixed things on pt nuke so i decided not use that. I have heard of the car antifreeze mixed with distilled water. Any type of water is not good as it'll rust the inside of the rad.
     
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    distilled water on it's own is ok but it also needs to be demineralized aswell so that it is nothing but pure H2O

    also something to stop any bacteria growing and make the water loaded so it can not pick up anything else from the loop is also a good idea an 25/75 mix of anti freeze/boil or an premix if your not wanting to mix it yourself , should get you demineralized/distilled water and glycol
     
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    More like brown water
     
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    I've used distilled water + automotive anti-freeze (25% mix), plain distilled water, and distilled water + PT nuke (the biocide I mentioned before). I understand that an additive can increase the effectiveness of the coolant and provide a few other features like fungi/algea/etc prevention, but with kids and pets around I like the distilled water the best. I don't have to worry about having the other stuff around or keeping anyone out of it if there is a leak.

    I'd have to look back at my log to see the last time I swapped the water out, but it's been a while. It's probably due for a flushing anyway. I'd really like to pop the CPU block open and clean it out, but one of the screws that holds the base on is stripped in the tools side (not the threads) and I can't take it out unless I have a replacement for it.

    DAve you been drinking? Seems to be some issues with your typing skillz...

    Again, see my issues with this above.

    I agree on the dyes being bad but I have not heard much about other additives, other than residual traces left behind. I too would like to go the route of a coil, as I think it's the safest way and should not cause any corrosion due to mixed metals.

    I never had the water turn brown until I used this. I'm not confident I got all of it flushed out, and I admit I may have used more than I should have. Not really clear on the directions.

    Have you had experience with this too, or is this just in response to my situation?
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Yeah, I mean, using distilled isn't bad..but discolouration of the water is just gonna happen. Yet I always see people mention they distilled is their coolant of choice...to me, it's a high-maintanence fluid.


    The only issue with that is that some stuff the coolant picks up is going to affect cooling ability, and sometimes, say if there was a pile af gunk in one spot, using distilled may spread it over the entire loop.

    Personally, I just use tap water. Every six months, blocks get pulled, and they get CLR'd.

    I understand the whole kid thing...but hte only pets I got are fish! :p


    and no..my typing sucks becuase my keyboard cannot hadle how fast I type. It's better than the last one...

    I had shoulder surgery again back a few months ago, and jsut got use of my arm back a coupel of weeks ago...I had been typing with one hand for like 6 months, which slowed me down a fair bit. NOw I'm back up to my 160 WPM crap, and my keyboard doesn't like it.

    I need a really good mechanical..maybe at the end of the month Iwill treat myself!
     
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    Random Murderer The Anti-Midas

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    You really should treat yourself, you deserve it! :p
    Keyboards with Cherry MX have been cheap on Newegg for a while. I believe you can pick up one of the CM Storm keyboards for around $60.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Price isn't my real consideration. I spend a lot of time typing each day, so a keyboard is something that I am more than willing to spend a few hundred on, if the cost is jsutified by features.

    I need huge n-key rollever, like 25-30 keys
     
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    Mine may get dusty, but it always stays fairly neat inside..
     
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    Random Murderer The Anti-Midas

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    That's a statement I can respect.

    No idea what that means. I could look it up, but I'm at work.
     
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    I have both as well, but the PC is kept off when I am not home and he cannot get into the case. I could see that issue on a 24/7 on PC.

    Nope that is personal experience and why I have an entire bottle of biocide just sitting in my closet.
     
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    You need to reach out to those many manufacturers that send you review stuff and start reviewing keyboards ;)

    BTW - 160WPM? OMGWTFBBQ??!??!?!!?!!!!!1
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    I play guitar. My fingers are magic. That is all.

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    N-Key refers to the number of keys that can be pressed at one time and still register. "n" refers to the number of keys..I guess. Not exactly sure, to be honest, but that's the gist of it anyway. ROll-over refers to being able to push them all at once. There's some test you can try while holding shoft or something that kinda shows this....I'd have to as MT ALex what it was, I forget.
     

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