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zotac 8800 gt dissappointed me a lot

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by cefurkan, Nov 8, 2007.

  1. cefurkan New Member

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    well i just got my 8800gt yesterday

    i worked on finding max stabil mhz

    tried and tried again

    at windows xp with rivatuner 2.06 and 169.04 drivers

    but max mhz is dissappointed me alot

    max stabil mhz is at all games and benchmarks are

    694/1674/1053

    which card bios should i flash

    i think the vcore that they have given is very very low and card cant go further

    at %60 fan speed max temp is lower than 80 C
     
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    get a new cooler it will help a bunch
     
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    nvidia will only use a vcore that will run 99.9% of cards at reference specs. If you are agitated that your card will not overclock to 5ghz change it! Get a better cooler, water cool, tec etc. Also volt mod it and see what it will do.

    By the way, crank your fan speed to max if you are going to overclock. A dead card does you no good. Your english needs some work too, it is rather hard to understand your post.
     
  4. cefurkan New Member

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    it doesnt have anything with cooler

    are u blind i wrote there it is not about temps

    the vcore is so low

    only 1.05 volt

    how can i give 1.1 volt with nbitior

    there is an option


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    Hey now now need for name calling and what not, he was just giving more OC'ing advice.
     
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    There's no need for that. People are trying to help you, no need to get all fussy over a misunderstanding.
     
  7. trt740

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    okay well my card would only run stable at 700/1000 with the reference cooler at 100 percent and sounded like a lear jet, when I changed the cooler my cards overclock went up drastically because my load temps drop from the 80c range to the 40c range and it's silent at 100 percent fan speed. I was trying to help you no need to be a unfriendly.
     
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    this not my max overclock but it will give you and Idea of the overclocking increase


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  9. cefurkan New Member

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    well it is not about temps

    when ppl calls 80 C is to high temp
    i get crayz

    and he gives false info
    then ppl gonna buy new fans for oc more but there is nothing with temps at this issue
     
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    at test i can go until 728 too

    but at some games it just freeze
     
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    I bet you cannot match that clock with a stock cooler under ati tools artifacting tool it's like orthos prime for a video card and nothing game or otherwise will test it as much try it and show me. I bet it will fail way before 25 minutes you need a better cooler is the problem. All the current 8800 gt cards are made by foxconn for nvidia and are physically the same. Voltage doesn't play a roll here. I can run Crysis at max setting 721 core /shader 1888/ memory 2060mghz because of the new cooler. I could not do that before because the stock cooler is way underpowered.
     
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  12. cefurkan New Member

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    u dont know anything with temps and just talk here

    i was using my 8800gts at 648/1620/1044 mhz full stabil at summer @89 C

    than i make some improvements at my cooling system

    temps never exceeded 69 C

    but nothing changed

    since the vcore trouble shot down temp is 110 C
     
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    this is a different chip and they put a underpowered cooler on it good luck i'm done.
     
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    sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Staff Member

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    maybe he just needs it explained a bit better fellas....

    I get his(cefurkan) point 80*c isnt all that hot concidering what the card is /with factory cooler.

    I just dont thing that he totally gets the idea of a cooler card will clock better than a "warm" card.

    @ cefurcan....think of it like a gasoline motor...in a standard car there is a radiator to keep it cool, so that the car will continue to run at say 100MPH for Xamount of years.

    Now the adverse is a Dragster....High horsepwer and no radiator....Its only designed to run at 250MPH for say 10-15 seconds. Then it requires a complete teardown and rebuild.

    The fellas here arent trying to say your card is too hot to clock. They are saying that if you cooled the card better the clocks can potentially go higher for a longer duration of time!!!
     
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    Can we get that in English using sentence structure that we can all understand please?

    :shadedshu
     
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    pff

    i give u example

    at 694 mhz it is stable and max 80 C at %60 fan speed

    at 728 mhz it is not stable max temp is 65 at %100 fan speed

    i hope u get my point
     
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    so bottom line here is you arent happy with not being able to post the GFX more than 728MHz core ?????

    If this is the only way you can be happy with the card and you dont mind it creaping back into the 80*c mark @ load. Take that Nibitor and set the new Vcore to what you think is good and flash the bios on the card. If you are unable to perform a flash in DOS, there is always the route of a pencil mod to the Vcore if you are running the mainstream PCB.
     
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    voltage 101

    example a gpu thats less stable due to heat needs more voltage to become stable, causing more heat, creating a vicious circle of heat and voltage. If you use water or good air cooling, to cool the same gpu it will overclock higher at lower voltage because the chip is cooler and more stable breaking the cycle, so you don't need anymore voltage you need a cooler chip, get it . This applies to you current gpu lower temps, equals less voltage needed,equals higher overclock.:banghead: your chip won't go higher because it has hit it's max thermal envelope . Plus your not including your voltage regulator and ram temps. The stock cooler stucks big time. Take it off and look the rams isn't getting any better cooling than if it had nothing at, all aswell as the V.R. it looks like chewing gum is stuck to it.
     
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    Ask for help and refuse all helping-attempts is kinda funny :D

    Get something straight: Cooler Card = Better and stable overclock. If this wouldn't be the case, there would be no need for watercooling or highend-heatpipe coolers...

    Get an Accelero S1, put a yate loon D12SL-12 on and be happy.
     
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    Your attitude sux0rs.
    You won't get much help being a d*ck to everyone who gives you advice...

    And you're not quoted in my signature b/c you make 'intelligent' posts...exactly the opposite...


    OH and one of the ABSOLUTE best people around here to help you (and one of the nicest people to boot) is
    because....well, read the entire thread (or translate to your native language as I'm certain English isn't)...

    I hope you get some help, but highly doubt you will... :shadedshu

    Try to NOT be such a GIANT d*ck...

    EDIT: Go over to XS with that attitude and see how long it takes you to get BANNED...
     
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    nvm

    everyone is here claiming that if u make lower 80 to 40 u oc more is ignorant i think

    u can close this topic as u wish
     
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    WOW:twitch: ....just so you know ....you are getting some of the best guys TPU has to offer with helping to OC your card. Not to mention TRT has the card in question. Judging by your comments I can only assume you are young and not used to thinking outside the box yet.

    But Im pretty sure as a whole we all know who is ignorant here!!!!!:D
     
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    I want to know how you dont burn up your rig. The hotter the overclocking component is, the less it will overclock. The cooler it is, the more it will overclock. And I dont care how you look at it, 80C is to hot for a GPU. The only one being ignorant here is you. Everyone here probably has a better background in overclocking and computers in general. You come here asking for help, they give it, and you just shrug it off and call everyone names and expect them to continue helping you out. I for one after this post will not post in another one of your threads just because of the disrespect you give everyone. Treat others how you would want to be treated.

    So if you have nothing nice to say, don't even bother posting.

    Try gathering your facts first before you post.
     
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    OK, don't you dare say that trt doesn't know anything. He does, and a lot more than you. He is one of the best overclockers on these forums and a helpful one to boot. If he says a better cooler will give a higher overclock and backs this up with his card as an example then you should give it a try. I respect trt a lot and I believe a lot of others do too. Do not insult a very informative guy who's decided to help you in his own time. Where the hell do you get off saying these things?
     
  25. Tatty_One

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    You cannot get anymore voltage from Nibitor, NVidia do not allow software voltage increases unlike some ATi cards, there is a hardware voltage regulator on the board, very much like the 8800GTS, you need to find a voltmod, your existing BIOS shows in Nibitor the MAX voltage that can be got out of the hardware but only a voltmod will realise that.
     

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