Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Mar 17, 2012.
Think of it as a mid-range chip in a high-end card.
I don't know, they sell the gtx580 for around 400 euro, which is pretty average. 500 euro for the gtx680 seems right.
It said it's sold out. And something like find the successor of this product via the search function on the upper left screen.
The rolls seem to be reversed on this.
Used to be Nvidia = Big Block,AMD = Small block
Nv had all memory bandwidth and brute force.
AMD always did more for less,Less memory bandwidth Hotter clocks.
Now it seems the rolls have reversed to me.
Let the drag races BEGIN!!!!!!!
Uh... no they didn't, NVIDIA just decided that their GTX660Ti segment card should be GTX680 and fu*ked everybody up
less memory srsly their HD 7950/7970 got 3gigs and the GTX 680 got 2gigs if u say that AMD got less there i think u need a calculator
What in the world did you just type?
You say no but then spell out what i just said?
Don't blame either of them for their prices. As a business, it's in their best interest to charge as much as people are willing to pay for a card.
Besides, they're both on the same track. Initial 28nm release is smaller chip than final release on 40nm. Gives better yields. The second gen 28nm will (i predict) bump back up to larger chips for the 700 series and 8000 series.
The devils in the details...
AMD card review in comparison with Nvidia card....Nvidia card tested with PhysX on High preset
Not quite an apples-to-apples comparison I would have thought.
A better indicator would be sites whose reviews bounce between different games, resolutions, game i.q. and choice of (r)etail outlets for pricing quotes depending on what card/manufacturer is being reviewed. I can think of at least one site where the product being reviewed would be credited with a price from a large outlet like Newegg inclusive of MIR, while it's review competition is price quoted according to one of the most expensive etail outlets available.
Double post- soz
They should really drop Physx support. What is crazy is in Batman Arkham City the GTX 580 gets less than half the frame rate with Physx enabled. Just goes to show what a worthless gimmick it is.
Edit typo 580*. I sit very far from the monitor indeed.
Are you blind? That review above is a GTX580. Not a 680. Also Batman Arkham city uses the old Physx version that wasn't very good performance wise. Also PhysX in itself isn't a gimmick it is as of right now the only physics engine with effects that are in real time, rather then simulated or placed in like most games using Havok.
In a highly "optimized"game 50+% of physx are prerendred or precalculated to be rendered with the correct resolution later, or during game level loads.
I think you need to read - he quite clearly said memory bandwidth - IE: this new card from Nvidia is on a 256 bit wide memory bus, like the 5870 and 6970, whereas the 480 and 580 had 384 bit wide buses. Now the 7970 is at 384 bit, more like Nvidia's previous cards (GTX570 is 384 too) and the GTX680 is at 256.
GTX 570 is 320
LOL, this is not high end? If it costs 500+ it is high end, and you can not convince me otherwise. You gonna come here and tell me that it is a mid range card just because it is based on gk104? That is a fanboy mentality. I will believe it is a mid range card when nvidia prices it like a midrange. You think Ati is not going to have anything up their sleeve when gtx 780 comes out? If you think so than you clearly are not thinking straight. This is a never ending cycle.
reviewers should peel off the stickers to see if it says gtx 660 underneath
I sense a disturbance.....
Saying that people who thing the GK104 is mid range is fanboyism, even though its following suit with the GF104 which was mid range, and then saying that we think that AMD wont have anything to respond with the 780, is fanboy mentality.
Think of it as the best you're going to get right now and you're going to pay for it. That being said, the site listed in the article is charging less for Kepler then they are for 7970's.
The GTX 680 is a mid-range card? I always thought the x80s were at the high end. This card performs at HD 7970 levels!! If this "midrange" cost $500 or whatever the conversion is, how much will the fabled GTX 685 cost? $750?!
Hahaha yeah it really is pathetic. Apparently Nvidia has a 'GTX 685' or whatever right around the corner to destroy everything, yet it's the HD 7970 that has proven it's overclocking strength and could easily be bumped up into a new HD 7980.
But wait - GTX 780 will own everything!!! No way ATi will release an HD 8790, though
Nvidia vs AMD?
Who gives a shit if I can play a game with 5 or 10 more frames per second, as long as its playable with this generation's or previous generations graphics cards? Why did everyone forget about nvidia's and then ati's price fixing scandal? which they sedaled with the plaintiffs out of court a couple of years ago. These two companies are reaping all the benefits of all you're ignorance. Stop wasting your money. I wish their was a third company in the mix. Then we'd see some fair prices and more innovation.
I think some people would roll you up in a carpet and throw you off a bridge before they give up video games haha
Personally I think Nvidia should've just went ahead with their original plan and released this GK104 as the 660, but no, they noticed it performed on par with the 7970 so they decided to rename it 680 and price it accordingly. Sad really, that would've really shook AMD off their current early release throne and caused one hell of a price war.
Dunno about anyone else but I like seeing the companies topple each other over and over.
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