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Owner: t_ski
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Posted: 2007-11-16
Last Update: 2007-11-16 10:04
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System Specs:
» Intel E6850 » Asus P5W DH Deluxe » G.Skill F2-6400PHU1-2GBHZ » Sapphire Radeon HD 2900XT » 4 x 250 GB Seagate 7200.10 (Raid 0/5) » Lite-On LightScribe DL DVD-RW » Thermaltake ToughPower 750W Power Supply » Lian Li PC-A10B » Swiftech Storm Rev. 2 » Swiftech MCR320-QP-K » Danger Den D5 Variable Speed Pump
Performed Mods:
Added sound dampening throughout, Cut open top for 3 x 120mm radiator, Wire management

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by Fuse-Wire (November 16th - 3:53 PM) - Reply
oooh, i have a thing for black cases, they just look so sleek n sexy!! 10/10 i really do like this case alot
by Neohazard (November 16th - 4:18 PM) - Reply
Its a great case and specs very clean job a question why u dont use a reservoier ? just curious

see and vote in my case http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1034.html

bye ;)
by t_ski (November 16th - 5:37 PM) - Reply
Thanks. As for the reservoir, it was recommended to me to just use a T-line when I first started watercooling, as that reservoirs typically slow down the flow rate (more 90 degree bends).

Don't forget to vote guys :toast:
by Neohazard (November 16th - 5:41 PM) - Reply
by: t_ski;535010
Thanks. As for the reservoir, it was recommended to me to just use a T-line when I first started watercooling, as that reservoirs typically slow down the flow rate (more 90 degree bends).

Don't forget to vote guys :toast:
Wait. U sad as reservoier slow down the flow? can u write the flow of water?

For me u install pump > rad > cpu > pump right? and the reservoier is in the middle of pump and rad

ask please

bye
by t_ski (November 16th - 5:44 PM) - Reply
The flow goes from the pump > CPU > Rad > pump. That's all there is in the loop ATM. I have a Swiftech chipset block and an Alphacool MOSFEt block, but they aren't installed yet. Not sure if I'm going too yet...
by Neohazard (November 16th - 5:48 PM) - Reply
by: t_ski;535017
The flow goes from the pump > CPU > Rad > pump. That's all there is in the loop ATM. I have a Swiftech chipset block and an Alphacool MOSFEt block, but they aren't installed yet. Not sure if I'm going too yet...
hummm now i see the problem u make a mistake when u install it


First u need refrigerate water for the cpu and not the inverse

when u sad that the reservoier slow down im think that u install wrong and now im right about my perception.
by t_ski (November 16th - 5:54 PM) - Reply
Most reservoirs are a series of 90 degree bends. Any 90 degree bend will slow down the flow of water. I don't have a reservoir because of this, and do not intend on buying one. Thanks for your offer, though...
by KennyT772 (November 16th - 5:56 PM) - Reply
T-Lines by design have more turbulence. As long as a reservoir is directly before the pump there is no impact on flow rate whatsoever. Completely closed systems are nearly impossible to create. Resivoirs however do make monitoring flow rate easier, by the water turbulence in the res. They also allow you to store more coolant, therby slowing the rate of heatup-cooldown of your pc. Say you had your pc outside overnight, down to 10c. With no res it may take 20 minutes for your coolant temp to level off. With a small res such as the swiftech unit, you can add a couple minutes to that. With the larger ones you can double or triple the amount of time your unit takes to heat up.

The number of blocks and radiators will have a much, much larger affect on flow rate. From there the design of your blocks and radiators have the most affect.

What you are missing though is all important overclocking results!!!
by Neohazard (November 16th - 6:01 PM) - Reply
KennyT772 is right! a T-line create a big turbulance if u can saw watercooling kits instaled look in case gallery u will see that reservoier makes much diference in a W.C kit and did u saw some oxigem bubles in the tubes? if u dont know T_lines are great for space economic but a disgrace to eliminate oxigem bubles and in u case u need to change u flow system becuse its wrong and many people here will agree with me and u wana insert more block´s and those block will slow down the flow as KennyT772 sad.

bye
by KennyT772 (November 16th - 6:08 PM) - Reply
by: Neohazard;535041
KennyT772 is right! a T-line create a big turbulance if u can saw watercooling kits instaled look in case gallery u will see that reservoier makes much diference in a W.C kit and did u saw some oxigem bubles in the tubes? if u dont know T_lines are great for space economic but a disgrace to eliminate oxigem bubles and in u case u need to change u flow system becuse its wrong and many people here will agree with me and u wana insert more block´s and those block will slow down the flow as KennyT772 sad.

bye
Attacking his setup based on what I said is uncalled for. I posted fact, not opinion. I suggest you do the same from now on. T-Line vs Reservoir vs enclosed is a statistically insignificant difference. You cannot base every single persons system on the whole population, as everyone likes something different.

This thread is for constructive criticism and comments, not bashing someone's case due to personal preference.
by Neohazard (November 16th - 9:41 PM) - Reply
by: KennyT772;535046
Attacking his setup based on what I said is uncalled for. I posted fact, not opinion. I suggest you do the same from now on. T-Line vs Reservoir vs enclosed is a statistically insignificant difference. You cannot base every single persons system on the whole population, as everyone likes something different.

This thread is for constructive criticism and comments, not bashing someone's case due to personal preference.
Its not "attacking" is a opnion and if u dont saw i mention here "T_lines are great for space economic but a disgrace to eliminate oxigem bubles and if u put more fluid the flow become more slow because the densyti of it

Much manufacturer of water cooling system says and show in theyers manuals first u need to pump water for radiator and not for CPU, reservoier is only use to mix and acumulate water and to make the pump work more easy.

bye ;)
by trt740 (November 16th - 9:47 PM) - Reply
It looks fantasic and I would love to own it.
by t_ski (November 16th - 9:56 PM) - Reply
by: trt740;535289
It looks fantasic and I would love to own it.
Thanks trt740 :toast:
by The Haunted (November 16th - 10:22 PM) - Reply
Really awesome work. It got a clean look, lot of airflow and is silent.
I can't ask for more... 10/10
by cdawall (November 16th - 10:29 PM) - Reply
great job 10/10 :D
by steelkane (November 16th - 10:34 PM) - Reply
First, Awesome job on cutting the top, your system has a nice look to it with the rad on top, But I was wondering if the 3 fans on top are blowing cool or hot air into your case with the way you have it setup. what temps are you getting, I enjoyed looking thanks.
by t_ski (November 16th - 10:47 PM) - Reply
According to Core Temp:

Stock (3.0 GHz) 24 idle, 37 load
OC'ed (3.6 GHz) 25 idle, 44 load

According to SpeedFan, the cores are @ 11C idle & CPU at 21C, but that's with the room at 22C, so it's obviously wrong. Motherboard temp is around 34 C.

With the loop, I have the fans pulling in cold air from the room through the radiator and into the case. When it's at idle, everything in the case is cool to the touch. If I had the fans pulling hot air out of the case I don't think temps would be as low, especially with how hot the 2900XT gets.
by steelkane (November 17th - 11:31 AM) - Reply
by: t_ski;535350
According to Core Temp:

Stock (3.0 GHz) 24 idle, 37 load
OC'ed (3.6 GHz) 25 idle, 44 load

According to SpeedFan, the cores are @ 11C idle & CPU at 21C, but that's with the room at 22C, so it's obviously wrong. Motherboard temp is around 34 C.

With the loop, I have the fans pulling in cold air from the room through the radiator and into the case. When it's at idle, everything in the case is cool to the touch. If I had the fans pulling hot air out of the case I don't think temps would be as low, especially with how hot the 2900XT gets.
I would think if the water in the rad is warm it would blow hot,, like for a car with heat
by t_ski (November 17th - 3:13 PM) - Reply
by: t_ski;535350
When it's at idle, everything in the case is cool to the touch.
Only when the system is under load, which isn't very often, would the rad be warm and thus pushing warm air into the system. My comment above was about it being idle. Having a rad mounted like that leaves you with only two choices: pulling cool air into the case (making the case temps go up), or pulling warm/hot air from the case through the rad (making the CPU temps go up). Like I said, most of the time the CPU isn't under load, so for maximum cooling of the CPU I chose to pull air into the case.
by Chewy (November 18th - 4:02 PM) - Reply
I like it alot, looks like you put quite a bit of work into it :P

I think you should try having the rear fan blow air in feeding cool air to the rad, Im not sure if the heat off the psu would get sucked in though.. some of it prob would. well when you add your gpu to the loop maybe try that out.
by SMACK900 (November 18th - 11:27 PM) - Reply
Great water cooling setup, nice radiator mod, 9/10 from me
by Dr. Spankenstein (November 18th - 11:38 PM) - Reply
Very clean! A build after my own heart!

Great job! 9/10

Bryan
by t_ski (November 19th - 5:14 AM) - Reply
by: Chewy;536997
I like it alot, looks like you put quite a bit of work into it :P

I think you should try having the rear fan blow air in feeding cool air to the rad, Im not sure if the heat off the psu would get sucked in though.. some of it prob would. well when you add your gpu to the loop maybe try that out.
Hey Chewy - I have the fans pulling the air into the case through the rad, so all three fans are pulling in cool air. I have quite a bit of positive pressure inside the case, only having the PSU, the rear case fan and vents for exhaust.
by aspire (November 29th - 10:21 PM) - Reply
Neohazard, I'm not sure where you get off saying that a t-line has more turbulence than a reservoir. By design a reservoir has water being forced into it and water being sucked out.

While I will agree that getting the air bubbles out of a loop with a t-line is a pain, by design a t-line works by allowing the free flow of water without any kind of restriction.

When you talk about how long it takes the water to heat up, it really doesn't matter. Most people don't run their systems for 10 minutes at a time and the let them sit for an hour to cool off.

Finally, the order in which you put components in the loop is of little consequence, after it has been run for a short period of time, the temperatures will stabilize for the most extent and temperature difference from any one point to the next are negligible. The flow of water is simply too fast for any given amount of water to absorb a statistically significant amount of heat. As a result having a "perfect order" in the loop MIGHT give you a degree or two of benefit.

/End rant/

In regards to the setup, props on the acoustic foam, never had the patience to do that clean a job with it.

Aside from that, maybe try cleaning up the wires a tad bit more and maybe some colored coolant.

8.5/10 = 9/10
by t_ski (November 30th - 2:49 PM) - Reply
Thanks for the vote and welcome to TPU. :toast:

I'm not much for colored coolant, and TBH the rig doesn't stay one way long enough to worry about spending the extra money on stuff like that. As for the wires, I know they're a little sloppy around the fans, but the rest are about as neat as they can be and still allow the hardware to be moved in and out easily when testing new stuff for you guys. I could go through and route more stuff behind the mobo and things like that, but removing the mobo tray would be next to impossible then - at least in a timely manner.
by jawoo2006 (June 1st - 10:35 PM) - Reply
I voted 5/10 because:

Sorry I guess I'm not a fan of the fan sticking out on top