Paradyse eXtreme
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| Posted: | May 27th 2012 |
| Updated: | May 27th 2012 - 3:19 PM |
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Superb (8.3)
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| System Specs: | » Case : Lian Li PC-X900B » PSU : Silverstone Strider Gold 1000W » Motherboard : Intel DX79SI » CPU : Intel Core I7 3960X » RAM : Corsair Dominator DHX+ » GPU : SLI of EVGA GTX 580 » SSD : Corsair Force Series GT 90Gb » HDD : Western Digital Velociraptor 600Gb » DVD writer : Samsung SH-S223L » Fans : Noiseblocker » WATERCOOLING : » Pump : Laing DDC-1RT Plus » Radiator : EK CoolStream XT 360 » Reservoir : Bitspower DDC Mini Tank » CPU block : EK Supreme HF Acetal + Nickel » GPU's block : EK FC580 GTX+ Acetal + Nickel » Fittings : Bitspower » Tube : Tygon R3603-P2 15.9/11.2mm clear » Liquid : EK-Ekoolant UV Blue » PERIPHERALS : » Speakers : Triangle Color 123 » Headset : Corsair Vengeance 1500 » Mouse : Corsair Vengeance M60 » Keyboard : Corsair Vengeance K60 |
| PX mod is a high-end computer project, with powerful components for the best eXperience. Not only a nice an tidy computer, PX can run all games and programs with the speed of a blink. All this technology is deserved by great peripherials for the ultimate entertainment. Welcome to the eXtreme world ! | |
22 Comments
this is not such a value.
above 6 is too much
Professional look with the cables, and well run water loop. Stunning insides, but I do still feel the whole look is ruined with the chinsy (Yes, i have owned Lian-li's too :( ) USB front port cover, and CDROM covers.
anyways, nice case keep up the good work! ;)
By the way... just a thought but, I think you should only be able to vote if you have a case of your own up. Who's with me?????? lol
huge, beautiful and quiet. what else can one ask from a rig?
Now, it is a very well crafted computer. I'm not debating that, however I'm confused by the storage solutions. The Extreme Edition costs 400 USD more than the 3930 (with only some more L3 cache and 100mhz faster,) which could have been used for a larger SSD or two in RAID-0 which would have resulted in a lot more speed than what storage solutions are chosen here. I'm also confused by the decision to go with an Intel motherboard, I find that they're a little lacking beyond what the X79 offers. All in all, it is very compute heavy with very little emphasis on storage. Maybe you don't need storage, but I would run out of space on a 90Gb drive as my OS drive very quickly and 600Gb barely holds all of my video let alone games, audio, and other software I run and have backups of. I find it hard to justify an Extreme edition, even more so when the 3960x is just a gimped 8-core processor with 6-working cores. If it actually had 8 cores that worked than it would be worth it, but it doesn't.
Really frustrates me when people give low scores because they don't agree with the hardware choice. Just because your budget doesn't fit this extreme high end price tag doesn't mean that it isn't warranted for someone who does have way to much money.
10/10 for the amazing case mod, hopefully no more stupid votes because people disagree with the hardware.
I still have 45Gb free. How? My NAS has 8Tb. Storing locally is an awful idea for that much space. It just becomes a burden to manage at that point.
Intel Motherboard: There aren't really any crazy downsides, they have decent motherboards. It was probably chosen for the theme/asthetics of the build; blue heatsinks to match. Looks beautiful IMO.
As for the 3960, he doesn't list any overclock for it, and judging by his specs it looks like a Photoshop computer. Pretty solid build for such.
None of your "cons" are anything except flavor and build preferences; How you use your computer is different. Its a very solid set up for other tasks. It looks like it was built for reliable computing power.
Actually the OP says nothing about Photoshop, just games. I'm even more convinced the SSD is too small for the beast of a rig that this is. I'm still convinced that a 3930k vs 3960x at stock speeds have very minimal performance improvements and that larger SSDs so you can actually install these games on the SSD would be worth it.
Someone can make a computer as pretty as they want, but if it isn't configured right what good will all the eye candy do you when you actually use the machine. That is my point.
A: The 3960x costs 400 USD more for a little more L3 cache and 100mhz more at stock speeds.
B: The 90Gb Force GT will fill up quickly.
And all I'm saying is that choosing the 3960x over a larger or multiple larger SSDs was more of a bragging right move rather than a performance move. You don't have to be an ass because your opinion differs from mine.
Assuming you are not swapping data to/from an SSD in an active computation (quite feasable given some tasks i.e. Photoshop), a CPU would have more impact than a slightly faster SSD. In that case, a faster SSD does nothing. Why not allocate the $$ for a better CPU, which IS noticable?
SSD's are generally pretty useless for games unless your capacity is > game install size. I have 100+ steam games, and all of them installed. Why even have an SSD? I can't run my applications from them(Without spending absurd amounts in SSD space), so it provides no noticable speed increase. Application of an overclock is also a variable which can (potentially, yay luck!) be based on the CPU model used; why were AXP 2800+ mobiles used instead of 2500+ mobiles? They overclocked better. Again, the better CPU is the victor.
I'm genuinely curious as to what configuration you reccommend to actually utilize an SSD thats sub 500Gb for large game libraries (which your performance argument seems based on), when professional uses may better utilize a CPU investment.
I see you have 2x 120Gb SSD raid 0, but how would I handle my 500+ Gb game library? Buy 5 120gb SSD's? Spend $1k on 2x 500gb drives?
Edit: The builder may also potentially be uncomfortable setting up raid. I was my first time, too!
That's an argument for more memory, which skt2011 handles with ease, both CPUs have a quad channel memory controller. Also the extra cache just improves the changes you won't have to access main memory to get data, and that is highly dependant on the workload and number of threads actively running. I have swap disabled on my rig with 16gb of ram and it works just fine. Plus, using an SSD for swap just kills the SSD faster and if you're hitting swap you need more memory anyways.
That is why one chooses what they want on their SSDs. I have 3x1Tb in RAID-5 for a reason...
You're saying that like ~5% improvement is worth 400 USD when a very easy overclock can compensate for that, even at stock voltages. Large caches helps highly repetitive workloads, databases thrive on this kind of thing, which is why server CPUs have a larger caches. I'm saying that placing that money elsewhere would be more useful, I'm using the SSD as an example because 90Gb really is small for much of anything if he is running Windows on it.
See reply to quote #3, it applies. SSDs are expensive per gb and that is why you don't get 1TB worth of SSD. Once again, I have 3x1Tb drives for a reason. I have both so I can have storage and speed, and 95% of the time, 6-cores is not necessary for my needs, so I got the 3820.
You seem to have a really hard time understanding that all I'm saying is that paying a premium for the extreme edition doesn't buy you performance, it only buys you bragging rights and if your goal really is performance, there are a number of other things you can upgrade that will help you more than a little more cache and a slightly higher stock clock. I don't know what reviews you're looking at, but the 3960x isn't significant departure from the performance of the 3930k and bumping the multiplier by just 1 will close that gap.
If you want to argue EE isn't worthwhile, you're running an i7. Why didn't you buy the 2500K and just spend the extra on better cooling like I did?
Seriously dude? Its his money, if he wants to enjoy the top end of the spectrum, so be it.As you argue SSD is a better investment for slightly faster load times. /facepalm
Because gaming isn't the primary focus of my rig. I wanted VT-d for improved I/O virtualization since I run numerous VMs and I have a large video library that needs to be transcoded (500gb+), so I got an i7. I also didn't want a skt1155 rig in case I wanted more horse power and on most reviews the 3820 and 2700k are neck and neck with primary benefits on multi-threaded tasks due to the extra memory bandwidth. So I picked SB-E for my needs and saying that a 2500k fits my needs is a bit presumptive considering you didn't know what I use my rig for.
I didn't say it wasn't his money. I'm just saying it isn't money well spent if your goal is speed, because the 3930k is just as fast for 400 USD less. The 3820 when I bought it was 60 USD more than the 2500k and I can tell you that it is a lot faster than 6% in most benchmarks excluding single-threaded tasks, which should be the same per clock. EE is really just bragging rights and I think a lot of people will agree with me.
I wouldn't call using an SSD a "slight improvement." But to prove my point, all I'm saying is the money for the EE isn't worth it. He could have got a 3x1TB for just as much instead of a larger SSD. Are you going to say the extra storage isn't worth it either? Just because the EE is 400 USD for 3Mb more L2 and 100mhz high stock clock doesn't mean it is worth 400 USD. For that price you could get a 2500k and a motherboard, and you're calling that worth it? No offense but your argument is pretty hollow.
If you're going to argue against my points at least argue the point and not the example I use for what that money could be used for instead...
One of the best investments I've ever made, that is for sure.