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AMD Athlon64 3800+ Venice

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Manufacturer: AMD
Author: //mAr
Date: May 15th 2005

Memory Controller

Here we compare the Venice's IMC with the one integrated into the Winchester. Used memory is TwinMOS Twister Pro with TCCD Chips. Samsung's TCCD Chips are known for their high clock rates and that they are able to run tight 2-2-2-5-7-256-1T timings at 200 MHz.
We reduced the multiplier on our 3800+, because we only had a 3200+ Winchester to compare to.

CPU Clock &
Memory Ratio
Memory
Speed
Memory
Timings
Everest
Read
Everest
Write
Everest
Latency
Winchester (3200+) 10 x 200 1:1200 MHz2-2-2-5 2.8V5578 MB/s2340 MB/s47.2 ns
Venice (3200+) 10 x 200 1:1200 MHz2-2-2-5 2.8V5369 MB/s2393 MB/s47.3 ns
Winchester (3000+) 9 x 200 1:1200 MHz2-2-2-5 2.8V5419 MB/s2290 MB/s48.8 ns
Venice (3000+) 9 x 200 1:1200 MHz2-2-2-5 2.8V5126 MB/s2306 MB/s49.3 ns



The Winchester has a higher read bandwith. Actually we expected a different picture, because we thought that the Venice has an improved Memory Controller. This does not seem to be the case.

Now we tried to find out what the maximum clock speeds are at relaxed 2.5-4-4-5-7-256-1T timings with 2.8V Vdimm. To make sure that the CPU's overclocking limits to do not hinder our test, we set the multiplier to 8 and Vcore to 1.5v.

CPU Clock &
Memory Ratio
Memory
Speed
Memory
Timings
Everest
Read
Everest
Write
Everest
Latency
Winchester 8 x 305 1:1305 MHz2,5-4-4-5 2.8V7041 MB/s3225 MB/s43.0 ns
Venice 8 x 308 1:1308 MHz2,5-4-4-5 2.8V6622 MB/s3237 MB/s42.6 ns


You can see a small advantage of 3 MHz. We do not know, if this is random luck or caused by the Venice core.

We saw no issues running four 512 MB modules (double sided) at 200 MHz with timings of 2.5-2-2-7 (Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC4000), but on both CPUs only with a CommandRate of 2T.

We could not find any advantage of the "new" memory controller in the Venice. That's a bit dissapointing. AMD could have certainly improved things, for example run 4x512MB at 1T.

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