Sunday, August 16th 2009

ATI ''Evergreen'' Promises You Won't Believe Your Eyes

All bets are off, AMD's DirectX 11 compliant GPUs are on course to compliment the commercial launch of Microsoft Windows 7, with enough of a head-start to allow buyers to have DirectX 11 hardware by the time they have the new OS. Codenamed "Evergreen", AMD's new family of graphics processors are slated for September 10, that's 25 days from now.

The company further carried out demos of its upcoming hardware to sections of the media in private, at their suite in the same hotel in which Quakecon 2009 is being hosted at. Behind the covered side-panel of the Lian-Li is a working sample, which AMD refused to let being pictured. Legit Reviews sneaked around the case to take a shot of its panel nevertheless.

AMD further demonstrated over six new technology demonstrations including Parallax Occlusion Mapping, Detailed Tessellation, and High-Definition Ambient Occlusion, all of which will be some of the key ingredients of DirectX 11, and in all of which, AMD's hardware is churning out high frame-rates at 2560x1600 pixel resolution.

Sources: Legit Reviews, Techpulse360
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153 Comments on ATI ''Evergreen'' Promises You Won't Believe Your Eyes

#1
RadeonX2
it's been a while since I bought my last Radeon card. Time to cross the red line!
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#2
Unregistered
I will be cautiously optimistic about this launch. I have used ATI for years and have seen this hype before. ATI cards look fantastic on paper. Unfortunately, nvidia looks fantastic on the screen. ATI is going to be first again, let's hope, at least ATI fans hope, that they will set the bar high enough that they can hold onto the top spot for more than a few months and not suffer another embarrassment of being beaten by something nvidia cobbles together using the year before last years technology.

I can finally upgrade from 3X3870
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#3
IINexusII
LaidLawJones said:
I will be cautiously optimistic about this launch. I have used ATI for years and have seen this hype before. ATI cards look fantastic on paper. Unfortunately, nvidia looks fantastic on the screen. ATI is going to be first again, let's hope, at least ATI fans hope, that they will set the bar high enough that they can hold onto the top spot for more than a few months and not suffer another embarrassment of being beaten by something nvidia cobbles together using the year before last years technology.

I can finally upgrade from 3X3870
1 thing ati will definately win is the price and bang for buck compared to gt300 series im sure
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#4
AltecV1
IINexusII said:
1 thing ati will definately win is the price and bang for buck compared to gt300 series im sure
yea the GT300 is going to cost a fortune,but it will beat HD5000 by a good margine!!
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Unregistered
1 thing ati will definately win is the price and bang for buck compared to gt300 series im sure
I agree completely. 4870's are so cheap (low priced that is) that a person can crossfire a pair without a huge expenditure of cash. $350 for XFX 4070X2 or just over $300 to pair a set.

I would buy a 4870 except that my MB is SB600, does not always pay to be the first, and by the time I buy a new MB/CPU/GPU I might as well just put together a whole new system.

I am going to wait for about a month after the card is released to see what happens.
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#6
Unregistered
A little off topic. I was reading the review of the new MSI 275 and am just wondering if anyone thinks the the new ATI cards will finally play crysis at 1920X1200 with settings near max and decent, not just playable, frame rates? Decent frame rates for me are 50 and above.
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#7
hat
Enthusiast
Haha, will we ever stop asking the question "but can it run/max Crysis"?

In answering the question, looking at the jump from DX9 to DX10 in terms of hardware power, if the jump in performance from DX10 to DX11 is the same then yes, I do think it can max Crysis with decent framerates. 50 constant? Nah... playable though.
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#8
entropy13
hat said:
Haha, will we ever stop asking the question "but can it run/max Crysis"?
Of course we'll stop eventually. "but can it run/max Crysis 2?" will be the new question. :p
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#9
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
Awesome, i just hope Nvidia pushes out something good to.:)
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#10
legends84
CDdude55 said:
Awesome, i just hope Nvidia pushes out something good to.:)
+1
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#11
H82LUZ73
Is it me or did most of you guys not see the Display port and HDMI port on the card ?Now they can still be under the $400 dollar mark and not pack the DVI to HDMI converter.Maybe get a free DX11 game for download.:eek::toast:
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#12
$ReaPeR$
this is perfect! seems like my waiting has payed off after all :)
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#13
KainXS
AltecV1 said:
yea the GT300 is going to cost a fortune,but it will beat HD5000 by a good margine!!
we all know the GT300 will be faster, a new architecture and double the sp's, we all know

but since nvidia is only getting 20 - 30 % yields on the cores for the card you have to ask yourself, is it worth the wait, I mean wait by, you wait for it to come out, and theres still not enough cards to go around since the yields are horribly low.

I still think what largon said in the other thread is right, I can't see these cards having 1200sp's, I think that bit of rumor is wrong.
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#14
3870x2
TheMailMan78 said:
What depresses me about all this is the fact not one of these GPUs will be utilized to its full potential. Why? Because every damn game coming out on the market by a major developer is in fact cross platform. As we all know a game is only as good as its weakest platform. In our case is the 360/PS3.

You guys that just bought a 4870x2 I would suggest you keep them. Its going to be years before they are strained.
I agree with you here mailman. This doesnt go for all games though, computer only companies like blizzard, other activision teams, some EA teams, and several others (including the cry and unreal engines) will continue to melt faces:rockout:
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#15
Mussels
Moderprator
H82LUZ73 said:
.Maybe get a free DX11 game for download.:eek::toast:
i hope they do a deal with steam like the old orange box deal, throw in HL2: ep 3 and L4D2 coupons in the box or something,.
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#16
AddSub
I hope this is not just empty hype as it was with Dx10 all those years ago. All we got out of Dx10 were handful of decent games that really didn't look all that better than they did in Dx9. (I'm looking at you Crysis)

Instead of fancy feature-talk, I would be more impressed if they could list several studios and/or game developer shops they know of that will be using those features upon launch. Dx11 might be all-that and more, but if they can't get developers onboard and fast, then they might have a repeat of Dx10-adoption scenario and those "Evergreen" sales might not be that great. (Outside of enthusiast community, where 90% or more of the market happens to be.)
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#17
Easo
Im looking forward to see its real power.
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#18
EastCoasthandle
With the use of:
-Tessellation
-Multithreaded rendering
-Compute shaders
among others we (consumer) may not notice much at all. This all is from a developers point of view IMO. DX11 was never hyped about IQ as DX10 was with Crysis (for example).
LOL
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#19
AddSub
With the use of:
-Tessellation
-Multithreaded rendering
-Compute shaders
among others we (consumer) may not notice much at all. This all is from a developers point of view IMO. DX11 was never hyped about IQ as DX10 was with Crysis (for example).
LOL
The last great IQ jump I can remember was from Dx8.1 to Dx9. I guess we will have to wait for Dx12 to see something like that again, or Microsoft simply might be taking a slow-and-steady approach towards DirectX evolution.
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#20
erocker
There is no DX10. It was all a lie. Unless there are a bunch of games out there that require DX11, don't bother buying a DX11 card for the sake of having DX11. So far from the looks of it though, DX11 is going to be what DX10 was not. Quite a few developers are already on board. I'm trying to find/make a list...
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#21
Sapientwolf
My bet is that the GTX 3xx cards are going to be faster than ATIs offerings. However because they are getting released first, they are going to get reviewed well because they are going to smoke HD 4xxx and GTX 2xx and it's going to be this way for a few months (which is a long time for computer hardware). Then when GTX 3xx hits the market it will be better, but ATI will adjust their prices to be extra competetive forcing Nvidia to adjust prices, then we'll be back where we are now, dirt cheap prices on top of the line units. People will still buy ATI's 5xxx series an account of positive initial reviews once GTX 3xx is released. That's my idea anyway.:toast:
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#22
GSG-9
erocker said:
There is no DX10. It was all a lie.
Well I don't know about that but there is ABSOLUTELY no DX10.1 :banghead:


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#23
pr0n Inspector
D3D 10 was never meant to make you say "OMG SO MUCH MORE EYE CANDY!!!111!".
Game devs just used people's unfamiliarity with D3D 10 to their advantage.
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#24
Millenia
AddSub said:
I hope this is not just empty hype as it was with Dx10 all those years ago. All we got out of Dx10 were handful of decent games that really didn't look all that better than they did in Dx9. (I'm looking at you Crysis)

Instead of fancy feature-talk, I would be more impressed if they could list several studios and/or game developer shops they know of that will be using those features upon launch. Dx11 might be all-that and more, but if they can't get developers onboard and fast, then they might have a repeat of Dx10-adoption scenario and those "Evergreen" sales might not be that great. (Outside of enthusiast community, where 90% or more of the market happens to be.)
The empty hype you got instead of fancy visuals was because most people unfortunately stuck to XP even with top-of-the-line DX10 cards, leaving us Vista users kind of betrayed. Pretty much all DX10 adaptations at the moment are quick hackjobs of the DX9 version, leaving it slower and merely slightly better-looking than DX9 mode. True DX10 mode SHOULD be faster than DX9, so you know the developers were lazy.

If most people, especially those with more than capable hardware would've migrated to Vista, we'd most probably have way better-looking games out there right now.

Thanks XP users, thanks a fucking lot :p
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#25
Exceededgoku
Just so people know the next Colin Mcrae Dirt is going to be fully DX11 compatible (Dirt 2). And from the screens even the Xbox version is pretty, the Dx11 version should be insane!
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