Sunday, August 16th 2009

ATI ''Evergreen'' Promises You Won't Believe Your Eyes

All bets are off, AMD's DirectX 11 compliant GPUs are on course to compliment the commercial launch of Microsoft Windows 7, with enough of a head-start to allow buyers to have DirectX 11 hardware by the time they have the new OS. Codenamed "Evergreen", AMD's new family of graphics processors are slated for September 10, that's 25 days from now.

The company further carried out demos of its upcoming hardware to sections of the media in private, at their suite in the same hotel in which Quakecon 2009 is being hosted at. Behind the covered side-panel of the Lian-Li is a working sample, which AMD refused to let being pictured. Legit Reviews sneaked around the case to take a shot of its panel nevertheless.

AMD further demonstrated over six new technology demonstrations including Parallax Occlusion Mapping, Detailed Tessellation, and High-Definition Ambient Occlusion, all of which will be some of the key ingredients of DirectX 11, and in all of which, AMD's hardware is churning out high frame-rates at 2560x1600 pixel resolution.

Sources: Legit Reviews, Techpulse360
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153 Comments on ATI ''Evergreen'' Promises You Won't Believe Your Eyes

#1
GLD
Yea! The launch may meen a new (old) 4870 or 4890 for me!
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#2
enzolt
erocker said:
There is no DX10. It was all a lie. Unless there are a bunch of games out there that require DX11, don't bother buying a DX11 card for the sake of having DX11. So far from the looks of it though, DX11 is going to be what DX10 was not. Quite a few developers are already on board. I'm trying to find/make a list...
so far we got this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_11_support
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#3
AltecV1
Millenia said:
The empty hype you got instead of fancy visuals was because most people unfortunately stuck to XP even with top-of-the-line DX10 cards, leaving us Vista users kind of betrayed. Pretty much all DX10 adaptations at the moment are quick hackjobs of the DX9 version, leaving it slower and merely slightly better-looking than DX9 mode. True DX10 mode SHOULD be faster than DX9, so you know the developers were lazy.

If most people, especially those with more than capable hardware would've migrated to Vista, we'd most probably have way better-looking games out there right now.

Thanks XP users, thanks a fucking lot :p
dont blame XP users!:shadedshu blame those consoles and theyre old and crappy hardware what can only run Dx9
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#4
wiak
KainXS said:
we all know the GT300 will be faster, a new architecture and double the sp's, we all know

but since nvidia is only getting 20 - 30 % yields on the cores for the card you have to ask yourself, is it worth the wait, I mean wait by, you wait for it to come out, and theres still not enough cards to go around since the yields are horribly low.

I still think what largon said in the other thread is right, I can't see these cards having 1200sp's, I think that bit of rumor is wrong.
well dual RV870 will smoke a GT300 and cost half? for amd to make hehe

a HD 4870 was just around 80% the performance of a GTX 280, and cost half when it was released lol ;)
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#5
15th Warlock
Single card rendering at 2560x1600? Well it was just rendering some tech demos but still, makes you wonder how fast these cards will be for playing real games taking A.I., physics,sound effects and what not into account...
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#6
Fiery
FinalWire / AIDA64 Developer
EverGreen family GPU codenames...

Broadway
Cedar
Cypress
Hemlock
Juniper
Lexington
Madison
Park
Redwood

I have no idea which one is which though :)
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#7
KainXS
AltecV1 said:
dont blame XP users!:shadedshu blame those consoles and theyre old and crappy hardware what can only run Dx9
I blame 1 console, the 360, alot of developers develop games on the 360 and then port it right over to pc since the 360 uses a modified DX9 and just add an effect here and there and go like, hey its DX10 and its like a :nutkick: for pc gamers in the end.

but hey, something is better than nothing you know

so developers now can cheaply cheaply port to dx9, but in the end they still have to add effects to get dx10.

wiak said:
well dual RV870 will smoke a GT300 and cost half? for amd to make hehe

a HD 4870 was just around 80% the performance of a GTX 280, and cost half when it was released lol ;)
nobody knows that for sure, for all we know nvidia could have learned something the last . . . . . like 3 times and won't rape peoples wallets

and we still don't know how the 5870 will perform
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#8
Nick89
I just got 2 4870's about 2 months ago, I'm not mad or worried because I wont be buying the 5000 series until prices drop.
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#9
LAN_deRf_HA
I can't wait till dx 11 comes around... so we can finally be rid of this "physx" crap. No game developer is going to kick themselves in the nuts by supporting physics processing that can only be used by one brand of card when there's an alternative. With compute shaders they could do all brands. Nvidia, Ati, and even Intel's larrabee will have to fall in line with this way of physics processing.
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#10
NeSeNVi
DX11 is what I am looking forward... and Colin Dirt 2 with DX11 supportX)
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#11
ArmoredCavalry
I've had my 4870 for over a year now, and haven't run across anything that can strain it (1440x900 probably has lots to do with that). But I agree with person above when they point out how the majority of games are just straight console ports, and so they don't even take advantage of beefier hardware.

So, I'll stick with my 4870 until the next round of games, cod:mw2, etc. Then I'll see if an upgrade is even necessary.
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#12
TheMailMan78
Big Member
Fiery said:
EverGreen family GPU codenames...

Broadway
Cedar
Cypress
Hemlock
Juniper
Lexington
Madison
Park
Redwood

I have no idea which one is which though :)
Broadway is the Wii so I doubt its that. :laugh:
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#13
SK-1
Zubasa said:
Well the leap from X1950XTX to 8800GTX then YEAH~ :rockout:
That's hardware,...I'm talking software. Like Erocker said, DX10 and 10.1 were a lie.;)
I'd love to see a huge leap in the hardware,...but playing current titles at 180 frames instead of 155 frames is just plain dumb/expensive. Plus, my e-penis is long enough ATM.
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#14
MilkyWay
direct x 10 was just 9 with added features

direct x 11 looks brand new (not literal because it literally is brand new)
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#15
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
wiak said:
well dual RV870 will smoke a GT300 and cost half? for amd to make hehe

a HD 4870 was just around 80% the performance of a GTX 280, and cost half when it was released lol ;)
Obviously two gpu's will smoke nvidia's one but then same could be said that two GT300 could smoke one RV870. Cost irrelevant of course. Bear in mind that GT200 is just as cheap as RV700 nowadays.
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#16
1Kurgan1
The Knife in your Back
DrPepper said:
Obviously two gpu's will smoke nvidia's one but then same could be said that two GT300 could smoke one RV870. Cost irrelevant of course. Bear in mind that GT200 is just as cheap as RV700 nowadays.
Cost irrelevant can do a lot. Bang for the buck is where it's at. Also hard to compare a GT300 and RV870 as sounds like the GT300 isn't going to make it in 2009.
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#17
DrPepper
The Doctor is in the house
1Kurgan1 said:
Cost irrelevant can do a lot. Bang for the buck is where it's at. Also hard to compare a GT300 and RV870 as sounds like the GT300 isn't going to make it in 2009.
It can but for those who don't take cost into consideration they won't buy it bang for buck. I always try buy the best card I can afford at the time.
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#18
to6ko91
LAN_deRf_HA said:
I can't wait till dx 11 comes around... so we can finally be rid of this "physx" crap. No game developer is going to kick themselves in the nuts by supporting physics processing that can only be used by one brand of card when there's an alternative. With compute shaders they could do all brands. Nvidia, Ati, and even Intel's larrabee will have to fall in line with this way of physics processing.
wow physix is a great thing and it is available on both systems (amd and nvidia) ... so whats your point ???
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#19
erocker
to6ko91 said:
wow physix is a great thing and it is available on both systems (amd and nvidia) ... so whats your point ???
PhysX will most likely go away with DX11. I think that is the point.
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#20
a_ump
i actually wonder how much better the GT300 is gonna be. i know its going to have double the shaders...but they're different so idk if the fact that they're not simd anymore is going to increase or decrease performance. Either way, GT300 i can't see releasing till feb or late jan. Though if there are already yield results that must mean the GPU is already mostly complete. So it wouldn't surprise me if Nvidia does send GT300 cards out to review sites along with a paper launch to try and hurt ATI's headstart.
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#21
joey_sfb
i sticking to winxp again for the first two years of win7 lifespans cause XP has everything i need. i don't buy hype just good PC games and their playable fps!!

I also tends to optimize my budget by buying a ATI 4870 for now as they give me the best fps for my money. Nvidia just don't deliver in term of best price to performance ratio.

If they do, I will switch on my next purchase. I am a Fan boy for my own wallet.:toast:


Millenia said:
The empty hype you got instead of fancy visuals was because most people unfortunately stuck to XP even with top-of-the-line DX10 cards, leaving us Vista users kind of betrayed. Pretty much all DX10 adaptations at the moment are quick hackjobs of the DX9 version, leaving it slower and merely slightly better-looking than DX9 mode. True DX10 mode SHOULD be faster than DX9, so you know the developers were lazy.

If most people, especially those with more than capable hardware would've migrated to Vista, we'd most probably have way better-looking games out there right now.

Thanks XP users, thanks a fucking lot :p
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#24
soryuuha
to6ko91 said:
wow physix is a great thing and it is available on both systems (amd and nvidia) ... so whats your point ???
GPU-PhysX ain't available for AMD/ATI,


and most likely OpenCL+DX11 will shove PhysX away..
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#25
pr0n Inspector
MilkyWay said:
direct x 10 was just 9 with added features

direct x 11 looks brand new (not literal because it literally is brand new)
LOL
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