Monday, April 12th 2010

AMD Phenom II X6 PIB Units Pictured, Turbo Core Technology Detailed

Here they are, boxes that carry AMD's first desktop six-core processors, the Phenom II X6. This line of "true six core design" processors from AMD target performance/price sweet-spots in the sub-$300 segment, targeting higher-end Intel Core i5, and even Core i7 series processors from Intel. The Phenom II X6 is based on the 45 nm "Thuban" core, and comes in the socket AM3 package. The processor is said to be backwards-compatible with socket AM2+ on motherboards with a BIOS update. Expreview sourced pictures of three Phenom II X6 processor-in-box (PIB) units, of model 1055T.
Apart from a numerical boost in processor cores over the Phenom II X4, the Phenom II X6 brings in a landmark new feature for AMD, the Turbo Core technology. This new feature senses load on each of the processor cores, and adjusts each individual core's power-states and frequencies accordingly. Unlike with the comparable Intel Turbo Boost technology, AMD's Turbo Core tech gives the processor higher number of "Turbo" cores when the multi-threaded load is low. Turbo Boost does not require any special software to work, not even new drivers for any given OS. All its logic is embedded on-die.

Sensing low multi-threaded power load, Turbo Core powers down three of the six cores, while sending the three remaining cores into a "Boost state". In this state, the cores' clock-speed is boosted by up to 500 MHz (multiplier +2.5x). Throughout the Boost state, the processor stays within the processor's defined TDP. The processor leaves Boost state when it senses more multi-threaded power is needed. Following are slides from AMD's press-briefing where it specifically talked about Turbo Core:

Apart from Phenom II X6, Turbo Core technology will also be featured on Phenom II X4 900T "Zosma" series quad-core processors. These chips will offer two Boost-state cores.
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75 Comments on AMD Phenom II X6 PIB Units Pictured, Turbo Core Technology Detailed

#26
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I hope to see some benches that will punch Intel in the nose!, (probably wont happen lol) Well I hope these are going to be fast CPU's my server could use a nice upgrade from the Athlon 630 processor it is currently using.
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#27
Mussels
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500Mhz boost is nice.


hell, i might settle for the quad core version.
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#29
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Mussels500Mhz boost is nice.


hell, i might settle for the quad core version.
That's what most people will do...and unlock the remaining cores. It's just that I wouldn't expect a Black Edition Zosma chip.
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#30
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
i dont even care for the unlocking, i'm all about power efficiency...

1GHz at idle (cores disabled?)
3GHz quad average/encoding
3.5Ghz dual core when gaming/older games

something akin to that, really appeals to me - a system that modifies itself based on your realtime needs.
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#32
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
(FIH) The Don+ its affordable
damn right. i can build an AMD rig (mobo + CPU + ram) for the price of a decent intel CPU.
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#33
(FIH) The Don
as i said before, i hope the price will be reduced a little as we saw it with the other pII's, then ill get one for the new gaming rig and retire the i7 for crunching:D
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#34
ASharp
H82LUZ73LOL @ Intel fans who do not know AMD use to make Intels


As for the box it is not all that much different then the PHII boxes a little lighter shade of blue to tell them apart on shelf.
[deity] forbid that AMD would use a blue box. How will I ever tell them apart now?

Honestly though, if you can't tell the difference between an Intel and an AMD processor box, you probably wouldn't be buying a six core anyhow.
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#35
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
ASharp[deity] forbid that AMD would use a blue box. How will I ever tell them apart now?

Honestly though, if you can't tell the difference between an Intel and an AMD processor box, you probably wouldn't be buying a six core anyhow.
i'm not sure man, that giant AMD logo in the middle is confusing.
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#36
(FIH) The Don
its a trick done by Intel, they put the AMD logo on their new boxes to get more ppl to buy their cpus
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#37
suraswami
hmm only 3 cores gets the turbo boost out of 6 cores. Will be interesting to see Windows keeps the game running on those boosted cores rather than on the slow cores (not sure how this will be implemented tho), may be the boosting jumps cores when the game jumps to that core (or some event in the game uses that core).

eagerly waiting for reviews.
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#38
theonedub
habe fidem
I think 6 physical cores should out perform 4 physical and 4 HT. Almost certain I am going to sell my i7 and pick up one of these instead.

When Frys starts selling them I am going to pick up two :laugh:
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#41
HalfAHertz
Mussels500Mhz boost is nice.


hell, i might settle for the quad core version.
I'm really interested in that too. Anand said that only 3 cores need to be idle on the x6, does that mean that the x4 chips will need only 1 idling core for turbo boost to be active?
And I think it's high time for some good old CPU drivers from AMD/Intel. It's obvious that MS isn't going to do anything to address thread management, even in win 7 i see thread bouncing to inactive cores...If this is Microsoft's solution for average load over the CPU I'd like an option to regulate it or disable it in the next SP...
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#42
Polarman
I don't really care about the box itself. Ditto for the stock cooler.
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#44
LAN_deRf_HA
I think a lot of people will be disappointed with how little performance boost you get from 2 more cores, large increases will be limited to a few applications. The $200 one will be worth it, but with the $300 black edition you'll be better off getting an i7 920/930 for the same price.
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#45
TheGuruStud
LAN_deRf_HAI think a lot of people will be disappointed with how little performance boost you get from 2 more cores, large increases will be limited to a few applications. The $200 one will be worth it, but with the $300 black edition you'll be better off getting an i7 920/930 for the same price.
And go to the dark side? NEVAR!

I wouldn't mind having one if I actually encoded anymore. CCE would love 6 cores, especially overclocked :)
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#46
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
but wouldnt overclocking negitate the turbo core feature for enthusiast/power users??
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#49
crazyeyesreaper
Not a Moderator
well were talking stock Phenom II x6 at 2.8ghz vs a Q9550 at 3.8 1ghz difference and the PII is still 50-60% faster granted said user with the x6 is also using a 32bit os so its not a great comparison but intresting none the less
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#50
FreedomEclipse
~Technological Technocrat~
Id like to see some games benches
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