Tuesday, June 22nd 2010

New NVIDIA GF100 Board Surfaces, Suggests New High-End SKU

Sources in the hardware industry leaked some interesting pictures of a new, supposedly reference-design NVIDIA GF100 GPU graphics card PCB, watermarked by board partner Little Tiger. The pictures reveal a PCB that's similar to that of the GeForce GTX 480, but with a stronger VRM that makes use of better high-C surface-mount capacitors (completely doing away with cylindrical capacitors), and draws power from two 8-pin PCI-Express power inputs. The design can deliver up to 375W of power (that's not the board power we're talking about).

This also opens up speculation about what NVIDIA would do with this design. The most talked about theory as of now points to a new high-end SKU by NVIDIA based on the GF100, that enables all streaming multiprocessors (SMs) physically present on the GF100, taking the CUDA core count up to 512, and ROP count to 64. The most likely marketing name for this SKU is GeForce GTX 485. Apart from higher CUDA core and ROP count than that of the GTX 480, slightly higher clock-speeds for the GPU are also on the cards. The memory subsystem remains untouched, at 1536 MB of GDDR5 memory clocked at 924 MHz (effective 3.7 GHz), over a 384-bit wide memory interface. NVIDIA could release this SKU this fall.

Sources: Hardware-Infos, Expreview
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75 Comments on New NVIDIA GF100 Board Surfaces, Suggests New High-End SKU

#1
Animalpak
im so waiting for the final dual GPU high end solution from nvidia ! C'mon !!!

This one sounds like revision of the 480.
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#2
Steevo
wahdangun said:
this years price is really pathetic
I paid $549 for a X1800XT, that was a pathetic price.
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#3
the54thvoid
Animalpak said:
im so waiting for the final dual GPU high end solution from nvidia ! C'mon !!!

This one sounds like revision of the 480.
I was 'so waiting for Fermi' but got bored waiting. I think any dual NV gpu will be less than exciting. If you want dual gpu, buy two 470's or heaven forbid, two 480's. Or if these cards turn out to be any good, two of these. Dual cards aren't always better (often a bit worse) than crossfire or sli solutions. Only real reason for dual card is mobo or case but if you're buying a high end dual gpu solution you probably have a big case and a good mobo.
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#4
GSquadron
Steevo said:
I paid $549 for a X1800XT, that was a pathetic price.
Ahahaha, well i have heard in this forum someone paied 1000 euros for 8800GT!!! :laugh:
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#5
Scrizz
Aleksander Dishnica said:
Ahahaha, well i have heard in this forum someone paied 1000 euros for 8800GT!!! :laugh:
:shadedshu
$549 for the x1800 was normal,
whereas 1000 euro for the 8800gt was not.
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#6
Zubasa
Aleksander Dishnica said:
Ahahaha, well i have heard in this forum someone paied 1000 euros for 8800GT!!! :laugh:
The 8800 Ultra was $1000.... :respect:
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#7
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
Top of the line hardware comes with top of the line prices, no one should be suprised by that.

Expect this card to be very expensive.;)
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#8
IINexusII
critisisms aside, that pcb looks nice :)
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#9
hat
Enthusiast
derwin75 said:
Do you mean the ATI HD Radeon 5970?
sneekypeet said:
I'm pretty sure he meant the first dual GPU of the 4 series cards:shadedshu
Pretty sure he meant dual core... as in two processor cores in one GPU.
Tartaros said:
Maybe this will be the pcb for the first dual core gpu?
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#10
HillBeast
So this is what Fermi looks like before they ruin it by putting a Fermi on it. Well, I can tell you what this will be: fail. Seriously, stop making more rubbish SKUs that are more expensive and way more powerful (as in TDP, not performance) than the ATI equivalent (in this case it would be the 5970). We don't want more powerful cards anymore because a GTX480 is powerful enough to run anything. Heck, a GTX470 is powerful to run anything. What we want is a die shrink. Tell TSMC to get off their a**es and make a 32nm Fermi.

When NVIDIA does that, then let me know and then I might start paying interest in it.
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#11
newtekie1
Semi-Retired Folder
HillBeast said:
Heck, a GTX470 is powerful to run anything.
:laugh:

Saddly, that isn't true...
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#12
WhiteLotus
When I first read the bit about the flat capacitors, the first thing I thought of was... "possible single slot cooler"
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#13
Animalpak
Zubasa said:
The 8800 Ultra was $1000.... :respect:
I had paid 870 euros for an EVGA 8800 Ultra in his glorious last year of life before the 9000 (flop series) came out, im serious no joke. ( I have the pics of unboxoing )


The 8800 Ultra has the strongest thing of 384bit frontside bus kicked all Ati cards coming out at that time.


He accompanied me in many games and never had made me disappointed, still today when I see it for sale at auction sales there is always a queue of offers.
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#14
overclocking101
this looks intriguing to me, honestly idk why they havent done away with cylindrical caps a long time ago, and anamalpak i'd be interested to se those unbxing pics. but all aside, fermi actually costs less than I would have imagined, i mean looks at gtx285 classified cards people actually bought those! and 295 cards when they fis=rst came out.
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#15
Live OR Die
im sorry to say this but
no hole in the PCB
2x 8 pin Plugs on a GF100 and know i dont think there going to go back to the ultra heat sink

if this card is the GTX 485 it would have to be watercooled or some crazy cooling to keep the temps down
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#18
LAN_deRf_HA
KainXS said:
if this is going against the HD6870 then I don't think things are looking good for NV, the gap between a 480 and a 5870 is only like 15-20%(and im being generous) on average, and the gap AMD made with the 4870 and 5870 is pretty big, If they manage that again with the 5870 to 6870, nvidia is screwed, but nvidia has time to recoop, they better use it wisely
If what comes out from ati this winter is a 6xxx series then that's a waste of a naming scheme. It will still be on 40nm so the performance increase won't be that huge.
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#19
mdsx1950
eidairaman1 said:
I suspect a 5890 before a 6870 (if they are even called that by then).
I dont think the 5890 is coming. The 5xxx series has so many cards, so i think the 5xxx series line is over.

Live OR Die said:
sorry to let every one down but
Its only a GTX 480 nothing more ,Tiger is developing a non-public version of the GTX480 PCB Design
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fbykj.com%2Fzhuanti%2Fgtx480%2Fgtx480.html&sl=zh-CN&tl=en
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fexpreview.com%2F9967.html&sl=zh-CN&tl=en
:roll:


LAN_deRf_HA said:
If what comes out from ati this winter is a 6xxx series then that's a waste of a naming scheme. It will still be on 40nm so the performance increase won't be that huge.
Its coming H1 2011. Not Q4 2010.
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#20
cadaveca
My name is Dave
mdsx1950 said:
Its coming H1 2011. Not Q4 2010.
September 2009 5-series came to life. It hasn't even been a year. At the end of this year, it won't even be 18 months.

There is room for Cypress to grow, if the chips get better. But they need to maek current designs a profit before they release next gen, so, at this point, a refresh seems most likely.

Thing is though, it's not needed, at this point. Every chip sold can make the next chip a wee bit cheaper.

Now, if ATi gets good silicon, nVidia will as well. Then the story might change.

At the same time, TSMC needs to make thier foundry pull a profit before they can change things. I truly think this is why 32nm is not expected...they need extra time to pull a profit, so that's the only viable solution.


This is why things like this PCB in the OP are important. For the time being, the best we can hope for is improvements at that level, which can either give us more performance, or lower cost.


Personally, I think this PCB here greatly resembles MSI's Lightning series, without the extra goodies. But the Lightning series fails to really improve anything, that I have seen. Maybe I've missed something, but with this one at least, I think it does look very clean...
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#21
beck24
Nvidia will come back strong. They always do.
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#22
Hayder_Master
i smell new bios mode for GTX485 to open extended stream processors on GTX480
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#23
Mussels
Moderprator
long cat card is long
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#24
Zubasa
LAN_deRf_HA said:
If what comes out from ati this winter is a 6xxx series then that's a waste of a naming scheme. It will still be on 40nm so the performance increase won't be that huge.
The 4870 and the 3870 are both on 55nm and the performance increase was huge in every way.
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#25
Unregistered
Yeah, but why? Why do you need another power hungry monster to play console ports???? WHY?:banghead:
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