Tuesday, November 22nd 2011

Pirate Becomes Youngest EU Parliamentarian, Vows to Fight Archaic Laws and Mindsets

Amelia Andersdotter from Sweden will soon take oath as the youngest to join European Parliament in Brussels. The 24-year old member of The Pirate Party was voted to her seat more than two years ago, but her appointment was delayed all this while, due to bureaucratic hurdles. Andersdotter promises to fight archaic copyright laws and corporate interests.

In an interview to Torrent Freak, Andersdotter touched on issues like competition between telecommunication companies (state and private operators), certification, and the infamous ACTA legislation. “When national parliaments have been saying that they can’t do anything about ACTA, activists and media just kind of happily accept. What national parliaments could do, and should do, is obviously tell their national governments not to sign the agreements. That is and would be within their power,” she said. You can read the full interview at the source.

Sources: TorrentFreak, DailyTech
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96 Comments on Pirate Becomes Youngest EU Parliamentarian, Vows to Fight Archaic Laws and Mindsets

#1
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
It doesn't matter if she knifed herself in the past. As if your politicians are saints that never did coke or went to strip clubs, and as if that's any less "contemptuous", if you find old knifing scars contemptuous.

Andersdotter's answer to haters would be "I'm in the EU Parliament, biatch!"
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#2
AlienIsGOD
Marineborn said:
AFter some examination, the scaring looks like a scar tattoo theres one above the lines that has a clear pattern and forums something. as a scar tatoo, not all that uncommon
ok that could expalin the right arm, but also on the left arm in the foreground there is the same type of scarring towards the top of the forearm
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Drone
It won't surprise me if it's just another figurehead or red herring
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AlienIsGOD
btarunr said:
It doesn't matter if she knifed herself in the past. As if your politicians are saints that never did coke or went to strip clubs, and as if that's any less "contemptuous", if you find old knifing scars contemptuous.
as i stated before, its the mental state of the person, not the scars/cutting itself. Everyone seems to come down on me on this topic, but as you are all allowed your opinions, i am entitled to mine.

Edited 1st post to clarify
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#5
fullinfusion
Vanguard Beta Tester
AlienIsGOD said:
its heavily implied Bro as im the only one to really have a negative comment to say.

To set things straight, if she did cut herself and got councilling and has overcome those mental issues then good for her and i wish her success.
na I was just saying and not pointing fingers. ppl always judge without knowing the hard facts... who knows mabey the scars on her arm busting out a window of a burning building? :)
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
AlienIsGOD said:
as i stated before, its the mental state of the person, not the scars/cutting itself.
And it's the same mental state that goes into doing coke or going to strip clubs.

St. Politician sucked at problem-solving so he did coke for temporary escapes. He sucked at relationships so he went to strip clubs. You can attach a negative connotation to just about anything.

Besides, you'd think that her voters would have had some clue about who they're voting for, especially when they have such gaping scars. More importantly, you'd think that her voters looked beyond something as trivial as knifing scars.

Politicians are human, and they needn't look like 5th Avenue manikins. The ones that do usually turn out to be full of shit.
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#7
Mr McC
All of which is highly relevant to the election of this young parliamentarian, which once, in a dim and seemingly distant past, was humbly proposed as the topic of this thread.
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#8
AlienIsGOD
i will have to disagree partially BTA. When I was homeless (and even when i wasnt) the was no negative stigma for me doing illicit drugs, i did them cause I wanted to (most ravers i knew didnt have problems either, we all just wanted to get high and have a good time).

I have already said that if she got treatment for her issues, then i wish the best to her and hope she has much success.

One last thing if shes 24 now and was elected at 21, these problems are certainly still somewhat fresh, and unless someone knows her personally and can talk with her about these things, those "knifing scars" are most cetainly not trivial.
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
AlienIsGOD said:
i will have to disagree partially BTA. When I was homeless (and even when i wasnt) the was no negative stigma for me doing illicit drugs, i did them cause I wanted to (most ravers i knew didnt have problems either, we all just wanted to get high and have a good time).

I have already said that if she got treatment for her issues, then i wish the best to her and hope she has much success.
But that's the point, you are:
  • Attaching a stigma to knifing that doing drugs somehow don't (ironic?)
  • Trivializing her on the merit of knifing scars, overlooking one extremely huge achievement of hers, that is earning herself a seat in the EU Parliament
That's the same kind of prejudice certain people show against elected representatives who happen to be homosexual or transgender, overlooking their other, more important qualities.
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AlienIsGOD
btarunr said:
overlooking one extremely huge achievement of hers, that is earning herself a seat in the EU Parliament
Hardly man, have already said that if these problems are behind her (and this is all hypothetical actually 'cause none of us know what those scars are from) that i wish her the best.

My personal feelings on this matter do not characterize who i am as a whole or how i even think as a whole, I believe that a person may express their feelings on an issue and back it up with thier reasoning w/o it being picked apart 'cause thats what im starting to see here. A person "blading" themselves is just as serious as a bad drug problem, but they are 2 different things. The only thing they have in common is that they are both used to escape mental pain for the most part.
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Fx
jsfitz54 said:
In polite society one would just wish her the best of luck in her endeavors.

Some people need to go to charm school.
this.

AlienIsGOD said:
My personal feelings on this matter do not characterize who i am as a whole or how i even think as a whole
actually, it tells us a lot about you

it tells me not to take you serious and in the future to potentially just ignore your posts since you dont have logic and common sense
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AlienIsGOD
btarunr said:
That's the same kind of prejudice certain people show against elected representatives who happen to be homosexual or transgender, overlooking their other, more important qualities
I would have no problem voting in that regard. The sexual preference of someone has no outcome on their ability to make decisions. Whereas the mental state of someone does have the ability to impact their decisions.
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Mr McC
AlienIsGOD said:
Hardly man, have already said that if these problems are behind her (and this is all hypothetical actually 'cause none of us know what those scars are from) that i wish her the best.
You brought the issues of her personal problems, your own personal problems for that matter, and alleged scars to the thread. By attempting to hijack and derail the thread with such insistence, whilst attempting to demean the individual in question, you suggest that you strongly object to her election. I'd prefer to discuss that rather than have you repeat nonsensical statements relating to self-inflicted injuries, your past drug use or your empathy for others who have suffered over the course of the entire thread, if it's all the same to you.
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#14
AlienIsGOD
Mr McC said:
You brought the issues of her personal problems, your own personal problems for that matter, and alleged scars to the thread.
Actually Frick accused me of not knowing what i was talking about, and i responded with the fact that yes i do have past experience in this area (not personally knifing). There is not a law saying that I was only allowed to converse on the article written. I looked at the pic and brought it up, yet everyone is flaming me for having an opinion.
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#15
Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
anyone else having a hard time understanding the pirate party's platform?
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#16
Mr McC
AlienIsGOD said:
Actually Frick accused me of not knowing what i was talking about, and i responded with the fact that yes i do have past experience in this area (not personally knifing). There is not a law saying that I was only allowed to converse on the article written. I looked at the pic and brought it up, yet everyone is flaming me for having an opinion.
Saints preserve us from a world wherein we require prohibitive legislation to operate correctly in any area. Why provide lawyers with additional work where etiquette and decorum will suffice?

Easy Rhino said:
anyone else having a hard time understanding the pirate party's platform?
I not sure if a cohesive, coherent single voice has emerged, but given America's recent proposal for a firewall that clearly favours corporate interest over individual rights, it is at the very least a step in the other direction.
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#17
Fx
AlienIsGOD said:
I looked at the pic and brought it up, yet everyone is flaming me for having an opinion.
if 'everyone' has an opinion contrary to yours... has it ever prompted you to think- hmm, maybe I am looking at this wrong?

if not- then it should.
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Easy Rhino
Linux Advocate
Mr McC said:
Saints preserve us from a world wherein we require prohibitive legislation to operate correctly in any area. Why provide lawyers with additional work where etiquette and decorum will suffice?



I not sure if a cohesive, coherent single voice has emerged, but given America's recent proposal for a firewall that clearly favours corporate interest over individual rights, it is at the very least a step in the other direction.
how does a national firewall favor corporate interests? if anything a restriction of internet access controlled by government would hurt corporations as a whole.
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#19
brandonwh64
Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!
I love posts like this! It makes people argue about dumb shit.
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
AlienIsGOD said:
I would have no problem voting in that regard. The sexual preference of someone has no outcome on their ability to make decisions. Whereas the mental state of someone does have the ability to impact their decisions.
OK, I'll bite. From a third-person perspective (of that of say, a voter), how is knifing yourself yielding you a different "mental state" from doing drugs? They're both self-infliction (or at least the laws say so). At the local level, people vote for candidates they know do "politically incorrect" yet trivial things. They choose to look beyond those trivial things. This is no different.
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#21
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
AlienIsGOD said:
really? i've been down in the dumps b4, homeless for 8 years, addicted to many drugs and seen many things. For you to sit here over the internet and assume i know nothing about it proves your ignorance. I've seen countless friends die from drugs and seen many of them depressed and cutting themselves. I stand by my comment, and my experience allows me to comment on things I DO KNOW ABOUT.

Its nice that you can all flame me for having an opinion and say i have no idea what im talking about, but i doubt many ppl on this site have walked in the same shoes as me.
I knew you'd post something like that. I can only judge you by your comments and your comment is stupid. But whatever, a serious question: Why do you not take them seriously? Do you not take your friends seriously either?
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#22
AlienIsGOD
Fx said:
f 'everyone' has an opinion contrary to yours... has it ever prompted you to think- hmm, maybe I am looking at this wrong?

if not- then it should.
Oh so i should just follow the rest of the flock. I do not think i am looking at anything wrong, ppl are picking apart my posts and using selective parts to thier advantage. I have 3 x stated that i wish her the best IF these issues are resolved (or even exsist, Marineborn had a valid point) therefore, NO it has not prompted me to think im looking at this wrong, I think that I more insight to this kind of stuff than most ppl on the site do ( i have done outreach to homeless and troubled youth in the past) im 35 not 21 or 22 so i do have SOME life experience to draw from
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#23
Mr McC
Easy Rhino said:
how does a national firewall favor corporate interests? if anything a restriction of internet access controlled by government would hurt corporations as a whole.
The potential for abuse of power through digital networks — upon which we as citizens now depend for nearly everything, including our politics — is one of the most insidious threats to democracy in the Internet age. We live in a time of tremendous political polarization. Public trust in both government and corporations is low, and deservedly so. This is no time for politicians and industry lobbyists in Washington to be devising new Internet censorship mechanisms, adding new opportunities for abuse of corporate and government power over online speech. While American intellectual property deserves protection, that protection must be won and defended in a manner that does not stifle innovation, erode due process under the law, and weaken the protection of political and civil rights on the Internet.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/opinion/firewall-law-could-infringe-on-free-speech.html
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#24
AlienIsGOD
Frick said:
I can only judge you by your comments and your comment is stupid.
i can only judge you by your attitude and thats childish. You have not said 1 useful thing in the 2 posts you have made
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Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
AlienIsGOD said:
i can only judge you by your attitude and thats childish. You have not said 1 useful thing in the 2 posts you have made
Ok fine, I can agree with that.

Why can you not take her seriously?
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