Friday, December 30th 2011

Congress Debates SOPA, Hypocritically Downloads Illegally Itself

Almost everyone who understands something about technology will have heard of the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) (H.R.3261) currently being debated in the U.S. House. This is internet censorship legislation by any other name and anyone that doesn't have a vested interest in it like the big media cartels is against it. This is because it hands almost total control of the internet to powerful (read: money) special interest groups, allowing them to shut down websites at the mere whiff of an accusation of 'piracy', however small and however unfounded. This will easily ruin many legitimate businesses, all on the pretext of 'protecting copyright' from supposed 'financial losses' due to content 'theft'. It also does an awful lot of other things, all of them bad, which are fully detailed in the link above. Now, if anyone thinks that this is far-fetched, just look at how the current 'darling' of the internet, GoDaddy operates: they pulled the DNS records of weebly.com, because of one little complaint against the site and without even contacting the domain owner first to advise of the situation. Disgraceful. Give them SOPA and a webmaster doesn't stand a chance, regardless of their size.
However, in a revelation that will surprise nobody, it turns out that members of Congress have been downloading illegally themselves – shock! A little investigation by the good people at TorrentFreak has demonstrated that these people are complete and total hypocrites. Yes, hypocrites. So, how did they out this revelation? We'll let DailyTech explain the fine details:
TorrentFreak used Hurricane Electric's handy list of assigned IP blocks (found here) to track down which IP addresses belong to the offices of members of Congress. And lo and behold, when those addresses were compared to results on YouHaveDownloaded, a torrent tracking site, they yielded over 800 hits.

Now to put this in context YouHaveDownloaded tracks only a tiny portion of torrent traffic, so it appears that Congress -- even as they look to punish lesser mortals for file sharing -- are themselves gleefully committing a "smash and grab" as Vice President Joe Biden (D) once put it.
Yes, that can only mean one thing: one rule for the rich and corrupt elite and another (much harsher and unreasonable) one for the rest of us. Here's a couple of screenshots of the many incriminating results obtained by TorrentFreak:

Pirate Windows! Throw them in jail!

This is porn, the details of which you don't want to know

Hopefully, there will be enough of an outcry to eventually stop this abomination of a bill from ever becoming law.

There's lots more info on this kind of corruption reported daily, over at techdirt.comPropaganda picture credit: Shepard Fairey
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82 Comments on Congress Debates SOPA, Hypocritically Downloads Illegally Itself

#1
TheMailMan78
Big Member
NdMk2o1o said:
You obviously didn't see the UK riots a few months ago, all organised by gangs (kids) over the interwebs and social media. Telling me there isn't any of that going on in the good ol' US of A? seriously do you read the news everyday and believe it? you do know 90% of it is straight bolacks right? if you think there isn't things going on beyond your control and comprehension by the goverment then hey, you have nothing to worry about, sheep.
Oh I know what SOPA is. I don't agree with it at all. What I was commenting about is the fact people believe their is a freemason conspiracy behind all this. Next thing you know they will be saying the Shriners shoot mind control venom from their funny cars at parade's.



OMG EVERYONE GET DOWN!

As for riots in the streets if they shut off torrents.....well I won't hold my breath.
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#2
Fx
TheMailMan78 said:
Oh I know what SOPA is. I don't agree with it at all. What I was commenting about is the fact people believe their is a freemason conspiracy behind all this. Next thing you know they will be saying the Shriners shoot mind control venom from their funny cars at parade's.

As for riots in the streets if they shut off torrents.....well I won't hold my breath.
my point wasnt that I know that it is the Freemason's although they might be collaborating. In general terms, it is the world bankers. many entities are a part of the formation

the US government is hijacked by them. that is all I am going to say for now because I am off to try to enjoy a New Years even though Obama just signed the NDAA Act of 2012 into law. what a great time to choose to do that! what a great present he gives us going into the New Year!!

great, now I get to be pissed while celebrating... peace guys and I hope you have a good New Years party
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#3
NdMk2o1o
TheMailMan78 said:
Oh I know what SOPA is. I don't agree with it at all. What I was commenting about is the fact people believe their is a freemason conspiracy behind all this. Next thing you know they will be saying the Shriners shoot mind control venom from their funny cars at parade's.

http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2011/01/02/19/8746736.standalone.prod_affiliate.56.JPG

OMG EVERYONE GET DOWN!

As for riots in the streets if they shut off torrents.....well I won't hold my breath.
You might be all good and happy with the state taking away your ammendments but the rest of your brethren aren't. You really need to take a step outside the box and see what these so-called corporations are proposing to your government before becoming the big I-am and saying death to all pirates, arghhhhh. These laws won't just affect pirates, they will affect the net as we know and aim to stop supply to not only websites hosting pirated material but also any material "deemed" unlawful/we the government don't want you to read, ala China style. Yes, that is the extent of the outcries, people are worried that mainstream pirate sites get taken offline by the government and what is to stop them taking off other sites they see as damaging? Again I mention China, they do not have internet, all they have is one big intranet that they control who sees what and when, now as an american where does that sit with you and your so-called god given rights and ammendments?

Go ahead post another "funny" pic in response.
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#4
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
_JP_ said:
A campaign to find dirt would help to discredit them all (senators/lobbyists), thus making SOPA look like a badly made joke. Although I think that could also backfire, because if SOPA is taken as a bad joke, it stops having the menacing look/presence and that might be dangerous.
Happy new year. :) :toast:
Heck, you might be right. We can't win, can we? :ohwell: Mind you, political strategizing* is not my forte so I'm sure there's a way to use this somehow.

*Big word for the small hours of the morning, when I'm half asleep, lol.
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#5
TheMailMan78
Big Member
NdMk2o1o said:
You might be all good and happy with the state taking away your ammendments but the rest of your brethren aren't. You really need to take a step outside the box and see what these so-called corporations are proposing to your government before becoming the big I-am and saying death to all pirates, arghhhhh. These laws won't just affect pirates, they will affect the net as we know and aim to stop supply to not only websites hosting pirated material but also any material "deemed" unlawful/we the government don't want you to read, ala China style. Yes, that is the extent of the outcries, people are worried that mainstream pirate sites get taken offline by the government and what is to stop them taking off other sites they see as damaging? Again I mention China, they do not have internet, all they have is one big intranet that they control who sees what and when, now as an american where does that sit with you and your so-called god given rights and ammendments?

Go ahead post another "funny" pic in response.
You trust the government to spend your hard earned money on social programs and entitlements. You trust them not to abuse face recognition cameras. You trust your government so much yet you don't trust them to deem what's safe for you to view for entertainment. Hmmmmm hypocritical? lol You wanted big brother to protect you right? Well this is big brother.

No this has to do with you not being able to get your warez anymore. Your freebie train has come to a halt. This is the only good thing I see with having to give up yet ANOTHER personal freedom. At least now some of the thieves will pay. Again thank you pirates for helping along more oppression.
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#6
Ahhzz
TheMailMan78 said:
lol Freemason conspiracy?? You got to be kidding me. Really? This is all the piracy crowd has now?

Yes because all the Bloods and Crips of L.A. became macfags at the dawn of the internet. Are you a Hells Angel? Theres an app. for that. :laugh:
Ah, yes... there's a productive post in the news forums...
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#7
entropy13
TheMailMan78 said:
No this has to do with you not being able to get your warez anymore. Your freebie train has come to a halt. This is the only good thing I see with having to give up yet ANOTHER personal freedom. At least now some of the thieves will pay. Again thank you pirates for helping along more oppression.
To be honest, this "freebie train" is actually a return to society of old, when ancient communities have no concept of private property and essentially everything is communal. Having been a major characteristic of ancient societies does not necessarily mean however that it would stay "ancient" and no longer appropriate for "modern" or "post-modern" society.
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#8
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
TheMailMan78 said:
As for riots in the streets if they shut off torrents.....well I won't hold my breath.
Good luck on that one. Something else will just pop up. Plenty of warez sites, torrents and other methods of sharing out there. GoDaddy doesn't own shit in comparison to the number of sites out there. Not to mention SOPA's ideal is just plain stupid and IMO goes against the entire idea of the internet. I for one hope it dies and do not support it in any way, shape or form.



I will bring back the little piggies. Just remember every time you copied a tape, burned a copy of a CD or even recorded the superbowl you pirated those.
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#9
JustaTinkerer
I have tried and tried to stay away from anything pirate related on the forums but SOPA makes it hard.

I have not pirated anything in the past 4 years or so, I was a huge pirate, rated top 500 on bitcomet type bad.

As far as i have seen SOPA will cut down on piracy but in the same hand ,with there power, would also threaten online freedom of speech, this is not on, yeah "pirates are bad" with almost no impact on sales figures as pirates only pirate cos there skint.
But wait till your favorite sites get closed/edited because a forum member said something that SOPA deems against its rules.

IF SOPA makes it in then 5 years from now the internet wont be what the internet is now.
By all means stop piracy, be it by ISP disclosure for the worse offenders(like virgin in UK) or by retailers moving to another medium for sales.
I own no DVDs, its old fashioned and streaming from my PC is more convenient, I use lovefilm for £8 a month I can watch films 24/7 if I feel like it.
ONLIVE for games is looking promising for games etc....

What Im saying is SOPA is making a mountain out of a molehill, if given power will change the interwebz forever
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#10
random
We've sent man to the moon and back decades ago. Why doesn't the media focus on something like media devices being able to recognize pirated content? I'm sure it's possible. Let's not forget the cloud is surfacing also, that could give many possibilities to preventing piracy in the future. Anyway imagine if pirated songs were recognized by the iPod/phone imagine how many people will actually feel obliged to legitimately buy their music. I barely call SOPA a solution, it seems more like its an excuse to purposely invade our privacy online.
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#11
silkstone
I just looked at the "you have downloaded" link and it's complete BS. It lists 4 files that i have not downloaded. And, yes i am the only person with access to my connection.
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#12
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
silkstone said:
I just looked at the "you have downloaded" link and it's complete BS. It lists 4 files that i have not downloaded. And, yes i am the only person with access to my connection.


Haha I don't exist.
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#15
etayorius
I hope they catch them downloading kid porn, which i am sure they probably have.

How come i am not on the damn list! morons... how dare they ignore me in their list i have download tons of Games! HAR HAR!
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#16
Wrigleyvillain
PTFO or GTFO
TheMailMan78 said:

Again thank you pirates for helping along more oppression.
This is exactly what this all comes down too. The whole copyright law situation is a mess that needs serious reform but nice job, fools. You have totally enabled this type of shit to fly and perhaps even actually become law.
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#17
theJesus
random said:
We've sent man to the moon and back decades ago. Why doesn't the media focus on something like media devices being able to recognize pirated content? I'm sure it's possible. Let's not forget the cloud is surfacing also, that could give many possibilities to preventing piracy in the future. Anyway imagine if pirated songs were recognized by the iPod/phone imagine how many people will actually feel obliged to legitimately buy their music. I barely call SOPA a solution, it seems more like its an excuse to purposely invade our privacy online.
Ever heard of DRM?
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#18
random
theJesus said:
Ever heard of DRM?
Nope ;). That's the problem, anyway I was thinking of more restrictive measures, sure it could recognize pirate content but it doesn't in anyway at all restrict that content from being played on that media device now does it.
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#19
Fx
Wrigleyvillain said:
This is exactly what this all comes down too. The whole copyright law situation is a mess that needs serious reform but nice job, fools. You have totally enabled this type of shit to fly and perhaps even actually become law.
you are believing exactly what the government wants the masses to think...

again, this isnt about piracy- it is about censorship. I am not saying that there isnt a piracy problem that the RIAA has been ranting & raving about forever but the government is masquerading this legislation around under that disguise. "piracy" is just smoke & mirrors to distract us from their real intentions. dont take my word for it. do some research on all of the latest, major laws/legislation and you will see that this only a part of a sweeping power grab for our Constitutional rights within a very short period of time. why, you might wonder? hmm, possibly preparation for civil unrest

sorry, I am not trying to hijack this thread but SOPA in my opinion is far more about politics than it is about piracy and it is scaring the hell out of me. this is a very bad dream that I cant wake up from
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#20
pr0n Inspector
I can't believe it has come to this. We are now talking about conspiracy bullshit in a "news" post about piracy.

Three months ago this thread wouldn't make it past the third post. What the fuck happened?
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#21
Fx
pr0n Inspector said:
I can't believe it has come to this. We are now talking about conspiracy bullshit in a "news" post about piracy.

Three months ago this thread wouldn't make it past the third post. What the fuck happened?
yep, this must all be in my imagination even though new laws/legislation are slapping you in the face left & right. lets all just grumble about it and accept it. after all, why should we complain right? everything will be better eventually...

I apologizing for revealing this "tech news" as the political stunt that it is. you are right- it must be a loony conspiracy despite the fact that Martial Law just became codified into law. there is no relationship between the two. it is purely just coincidental timing
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#22
NinkobEi
Are we just posting copyright infringements? ooh I have one
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#23
pr0n Inspector
Fx said:
yep, this must all be in my imagination even though new laws/legislation are slapping you in the face left & right. lets all just grumble about it and accept it. after all, why should we complain right? everything will be better eventually...

I apologizing for revealing this "tech news" as the political stunt that it is. you are right- it must be a loony conspiracy despite the fact that Martial Law just became codified into law. there is no relationship between the two. it is purely just coincidental timing
Threads about piracy always go down the toilet. But now we have nut jobs like you spewing conspiracy bullshit, well that just brings it to a whole new level, a much lower one of course.
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#24
Wrigleyvillain
PTFO or GTFO
Fx said:
you are believing exactly what the government wants the masses to think...

again, this isnt about piracy- it is about censorship.
Yes...I'm not an idiot...but it's rampant piracy and copyright infringement since the advent of the internet that allows a censorship laden and freedom-stomping bill like SOPA to even be drafted and debated in the first place. Sure, the internet in it's present (essentially accidental) form simply allows us too many various and even new "freedoms" which Big Brother and Big Business does not like at all for various reasons from unregulated and untaxed commerce to Occupy Wall Street organizing over social media. But if not for the intellectual property "theft" that goes on daily I really don't think they'd have a politically viable reason for exercising such "control" over it as SOPA would dictate and make reality.

I don't know if this will pass. But it sure has a good chance. And going on from there I can say for sure that, regardless, the internet in 2022 will be a helluva lot different than the one we know in 2012 and surely not in a "good" way.
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#25
Fx
Wrigleyvillain said:
Yes...I'm not an idiot...but it's rampant piracy and copyright infringement since the advent of the internet that allows a censorship laden and freedom-stomping bill like SOPA to even be drafted and debated in the first place. Sure, the internet in it's present (essentially accidental) form simply allows us too many various and even new "freedoms" which Big Brother and Big Business does not like at all for various reasons from unregulated and untaxed commerce to Occupy Wall Street organizing over social media. But if not for the intellectual property "theft" that goes on daily I really don't think they'd have a politically viable reason for exercising such "control" over it as SOPA would dictate and make reality.

I don't know if this will pass. But it sure has a good chance. And going on from there I can say for sure that, regardless, the internet in 2022 will be a helluva lot different than the one we know in 2012 and surely not in a "good" way.
I am inclined to get irritated at people for acting like this but I cant blame you. I know you guys are smart but you have been conditioned to think in a certain way. I used to have the same opinions and say that same things about the type of person I have become. you need to be prodded to look at things differently. you need to wake up

reality check
reality check

stop watching main stream media and research online before all of the evidence is censored!

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-John F. Kennedy
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