Friday, February 10th 2012

NVIDIA GeForce Kepler Packs Radically Different Number Crunching Machinery

NVIDIA is bound to kickstart its competitive graphics processor lineup to AMD's Southern Islands Radeon HD 7000 series with GeForce Kepler 104 (GK104). We are learning through reliable sources that NVIDIA will implement a radically different design (by NVIDIA's standards anyway) for its CUDA core machinery, while retaining the basic hierarchy of components in its GPU similar to Fermi. The new design would ensure greater parallelism. The latest version of GK104's specifications looks like this:

SIMD Hierarchy
  • 4 Graphics Processing Clusters (GPC)
  • 4 Streaming Multiprocessors (SM) per GPC = 16 SM
  • 96 Stream Processors (SP) per SM = 1536 CUDA cores


TMU / Geometry Domain
  • 8 Texture Units (TMU) per SM = 128 TMUs
  • 32 Raster OPeration Units (ROPs)
Memory
  • 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface
  • 2048 MB (2 GB) memory amount standard
Clocks/Other
  • 950 MHz core/CUDA core (no hot-clocks)
  • 1250 MHz actual (5.00 GHz effective) memory, 160 GB/s memory bandwidth
  • 2.9 TFLOP/s single-precision floating point compute power
  • 486 GFLOP/s double-precision floating point compute power
  • Estimated die-area 340mm²
Source: 3DCenter.org
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#1
Black Panther
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Back on topic please or infractions will have to flow...
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m1dg3t
Awwww BP :cry: Both my post's were on topic :o
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RigRebel
m1dg3t said:
Awwww BP :cry: Both my post's were on topic :o
lol maybe in lala land...
ps.. answer my post from like 2 pages ago (only yesterday) please :) .. is Kepler still on for 3/22 since you hold all the answer oh enlighted one? lol



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Damn_Smooth
RigRebel said:
lol maybe in lala land...
ps.. answer my post from like 2 pages ago (only yesterday) please :) .. is Kepler still on for 3/22 since you hold all the answer oh enlighted one? lol



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Kepler is the cake.

Doesn't matter much anyway, console ports aren't going to get much more demanding any time soon.
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RigRebel
Damn_Smooth said:
Kepler is the cake.

Doesn't matter much anyway, console ports aren't going to get much more demanding any time soon.
who's talking console.. wanting kepler for PC.. AMD has the PS4 contracts for consoles from what another poster was saying. Kepler for Xbox ?
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Damn_Smooth
RigRebel said:
who's talking console.. wanting kepler for PC.. AMD has the PS4 contracts for consoles from what another poster was saying. Kepler for Xbox ?
I believe that AMD has the contract for Xbox too.

I want Kepler to start a price war, but the more I think about it the less I care. Outside of benchmarking, folding and E-peen, there really isn't that much need for that much power.

As long as the current gen consoles are holding PC back, Kepler could be 10 million times more powerful than GCN and nobody would really notice.
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RigRebel
Damn_Smooth said:
I believe that AMD has the contract for Xbox too.

I want Kepler to start a price war, but the more I think about it the less I care. Outside of benchmarking, folding and E-peen, there really isn't that much need for that much power.

As long as the current gen consoles are holding PC back, Kepler could be 10 million times more powerful than GCN and nobody would really notice.
Ditto on the price war.. come on $125.00 560 Ti's ! lol
this is the link that through other posts led me to this forum > http://lenzfire.com/2012/02/entire-nvidia-kepler-series-specifications-price-release-date-43823/

Now, who know those number could be all speculation, what's important to me is the 500 to 600 series translations. Is the kepler DK104 despite being the 560 chip gonna to be upgraded enought to make the 660Ti perform on par with previous GTX580s, the GTX 660 = the 570 and the 650 Ti = the 560 ti, etc. etc. etc... Prices for the 660Ti seem higher so is the preposed kepler DK104 660Ti jumping up to fill the shoes of the old GTX580? That's what i'm looking for...seems logical. And notice the GTX 650 Ti? Apparently this sees the 650ti/aka 550ti stepping up and taking the 560Ti's place with the possible 650Ti =560 ti preformance and 560ti price point. Some people are spectulating this is not true data but seems logical. Confirm/deny please. These figures seem to indicate a total upward shift in all products in Nvidia's proposed 600/700 series (still not sure if it's gonna be 600/700 sources vary). The upward shift of all products would seriously rock if legit technology and benches. I'd love to buy a brand new 660Ti with better TPU numbers and lower heat that can perform on par with the GTx 580 solo and like the 560tis in SLI and that has the new xxAA > http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26378-nvidia-kepler-gpus-may-introduce-new-anti-aliasing-technique that's been speculated on. THAT's what i'm TALK'N BOUT! ;)

Also good point on console holding back PC but MMOs are reigning supreme on PC atm and some good ones due to release soon hopefully (Space Marines 40k Online FTW). PC/PC Gaming will always be a higher end niche product at this point because $300.00 per video card vs $300.00 for whole console with blue ray = no brainer for lower end markets and right now manufactures are pouring money into console gaming like honey over sticky buns. If the money where there PC would be on top but gaming went FROM PCs to consoles sole cause more affordable mass market avenue.
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Damn_Smooth
RigRebel said:
Ditto on the price war.. come on $125.00 560 Ti's ! lol
this is the link that through other posts led me to this forum > http://lenzfire.com/2012/02/entire-nvidia-kepler-series-specifications-price-release-date-43823/

Now, who know those number could be all speculation, what's important to me is the 500 to 600 series translations. Is the kepler DK104 despite being the 560 chip gonna to be upgraded enought to make the 660Ti perform on par with previous GTX580s, the GTX 660 = the 570 and the 650 Ti = the 560 ti, etc. etc. etc... Prices for the 660Ti seem higher so is the preposed kepler DK104 660Ti jumping up to fill the shoes of the old GTX580? That's what i'm looking for...seems logical. And notice the GTX 650 Ti? Apparently this sees the 650ti/aka 550ti stepping up and taking the 560Ti's place with the possible 650Ti =560 ti preformance and 560ti price point. Some people are spectulating this is not true data but seems logical. Confirm/deny please. These figures seem to indicate a total upward shift in all products in Nvidia's proposed 600/700 series (still not sure if it's gonna be 600/700 sources vary). The upward shift of all products would seriously rock if legit technology and benches. I'd love to buy a brand new 660Ti with better TPU numbers and lower heat that can perform on par with the GTx 580 solo and like the 560tis in SLI and that has the new xxAA > http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26378-nvidia-kepler-gpus-may-introduce-new-anti-aliasing-technique that's been speculated on. THAT's what i'm TALK'N BOUT! ;)

Also good point on console holding back PC but MMOs are reigning supreme on PC atm and some good ones due to release soon hopefully (Space Marines 40k Online FTW). PC/PC Gaming will always be a higher end niche product at this point because $300.00 per video card vs $300.00 for whole console with blue ray = no brainer for lower end markets and right now manufactures are pouring money into console gaming like honey over sticky buns. If the money where there PC would be on top but gaming went FROM PCs to consoles sole cause more affordable mass market avenue.
Thanks, I hadn't read that lenzfire article.

I can't wait for the Kepler reviews. I'm really more interested in the OC capabilities.

If it can clock as well as the 7000 series, it looks like Nvidia has a real winner on it's hands. If not, it should start a price war just by beating the 7970 at stock.

Either way, it looks like the next couple months are going to be interesting.

Welcome to TPU, by the way.
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RigRebel
Damn_Smooth said:
Thanks, I hadn't read that lenzfire article.

I can't wait for the Kepler reviews. I'm really more interested in the OC capabilities.

If it can clock as well as the 7000 series, it looks like Nvidia has a real winner on it's hands. If not, it should start a price war just by beating the 7970 at stock.

Either way, it looks like the next couple months are going to be interesting.

Welcome to TPU, by the way.
I haven't read a overclock review on the 7000 series yet other than the one for the Saphire card http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1437/pg1/sapphire-radeon-hd-7850-overclock-edition-graphics-card-review-introduction.html and I was impressed but also bewildered to see such a jump from the referrence review on Tom's. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148.html

More on the clocking aspects? If it OC's that well with that jump in performance that would great. Especially if Nvidia 600s follow suite :) :rockout: PS... thanks for the welcome loving TPU atm I'm learning a lot and getting good info from a lot of the posters. And bonus =I haven't been kicked "yet" lol ;)

PS please excuse me from being dense or missing the lingo but yes or no is kepler still coming out on 3/22/2012 ?
PSS> correction : 660Ti perform on par with previous GTX580s, the GTX 660 = the 570 and the 650 Ti = the 560 ti, etc. etc. etc...=
660TI perform on 10% better than 7950 per that link the rest is in the link... seems a stretch but if they pull it off holy moley. http://lenzfire.com/2012/02/entire-n...se-date-43823/ I know the links from Feb but still may be viable cause even the post of specs in this forum is speculative.. nothings final till release.
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Damn_Smooth
RigRebel said:
I haven't read a overclock review on the 7000 series yet other than the one for the Saphire card http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1437/pg1/sapphire-radeon-hd-7850-overclock-edition-graphics-card-review-introduction.html and I was impressed but also bewildered to see such a jump from the referrence review on Tom's. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148.html

More on the clocking aspects? If it OC's that well with that jump in performance that would great. Especially if Nvidia 600s follow suite :) :rockout: PS... thanks for the welcome loving TPU atm I'm learning a lot and getting good info from a lot of the posters. And bonus =I haven't been kicked "yet" lol ;)

PS please excuse me from being dense or missing the lingo but yes or no is kepler still coming out on 3/22/2012 ?
PSS> correction : 660Ti perform on par with previous GTX580s, the GTXo 660 = the 570 and the 650 Ti = the 560 ti, etc. etc. etc...=
660TI perform on 10% better than 7950 per that link the rest is in the link... seems a stretch but if they pull it off holy moley. http://lenzfire.com/2012/02/entire-n...se-date-43823/ I know the links from Feb but still may be viable cause even the post of specs in this forum is speculative.. nothings final till release.
The last that I heard it was still supposed to launch on the 22nd. I still haven't heard anything that says different so I'm assuming it's true.

I guess that we'll know for sure if we get a flood of reviews around midnight tomorrow night.
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RigRebel
Damn_Smooth said:
The last that I heard it was still supposed to launch on the 22nd. I still haven't heard anything that says different so I'm assuming it's true.

I guess that we'll know for sure if we get a flood of reviews around midnight tomorrow night.
I hope so... a tech friend of mine at CompUSA told me on Tues night it's 5/22... idk. he's wrong a lot I thought all the posts said 3/22 but he brings up a good point that no orders came to his store yet.. :/ :confused:

Gosh I hope it's 3/22... gives me time to see if the 650Ti is going to perform like a 570 (or if the 660ti is going to perform like a 580 or higher :) ) before D3 launch in May. :rockout:

PSS new update.. new leak 7 hours old!! Some of it's old news though... I know this may be a double post and I'm sorry but since it's new reviews only 7 hours old I didn't want them to get lost in previous post and not have them seen.
Forgive me please :beg:

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/26459-geforce-kepler-gk110-basic-specs-leaked
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RigRebel
Damn_Smooth said:
The last that I heard it was still supposed to launch on the 22nd. I still haven't heard anything that says different so I'm assuming it's true.

I guess that we'll know for sure if we get a flood of reviews around midnight tomorrow night.
Well, Nvidia released it's specs and numbers... and at first glance. YES! ... Gboost (as speculated), TxAA (as speculated) and dynamic non-precomputed physix all with lower TPD and 4 monitor Support from a single card with 3D/2D surround. Loving it so far.. Still checking all specs but wanted to get you the link quickly> http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desk...gtx-680/videos

TXAA looks freaking awesome.. hope it's as smooth as he says with minimal FPS loss. This could be an awesome bonus new AA tech and aspect of the card!

Full Card specs > http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desk...specifications
@ 8% increase over GTX 580.. not a huge difference but all and all a lot of refinements and hopefully an all around better card.
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Tatty_One
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I cannot believe it's only 8%, does that not mean that it is in fact no faster than the 7970?? :confused:
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RevengE
I was looking at these cards. I just sold my 6950. Looking for a new card, these sparked my interest. if they're slower than a 7970 I may just get one of those, Seeing that my computer is down until I get a video card. I was hoping to give Nvidia a shot this time.
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