Hopefully the first names on McKinsey & Company and BCG's kill list are AMD's board members.

Robert Palmer- director since 1999*
Bruce Clafin- director since 2003
W.Michael Barnes - director since 2003*
H.Paulett Eberhart- director since 2004
John Caldwell- director since 2006

* Two of the three directors that make up the Audit and Finance Committee.

Thanks guys- take a well earned rest.

HumanSmokeHopefully the first names on McKinsey & Company and BCG's kill list are AMD's board members.

Robert Palmer- director since 1999*
Bruce Clafin- director since 2003
W.Michael Barnes - director since 2003*
H.Paulett Eberhart- director since 2004
John Caldwell- director since 2006

* Two of the three directors that make up the Audit and Finance Committee.

Thanks guys- take a well earned rest.

Do you work for AMD? :p

or perhaps...did you?


:roll:

Just in time for the Holidays

Engineering and Sales? Shouldn't it be Management and Sales?

And talking about Engineering, it's apparently not the CPU division but the Graphics division...

This is sad.

HumanSmokeHopefully the first names on McKinsey & Company and BCG's kill list are AMD's board members.

Robert Palmer- director since 1999*
Bruce Clafin- director since 2003
W.Michael Barnes - director since 2003*
H.Paulett Eberhart- director since 2004
John Caldwell- director since 2006

* Two of the three directors that make up the Audit and Finance Committee.

Thanks guys- take a well earned rest.

yeah...and let chuck norris lead engineering and PSY gangnam for marketing :rockout:

cadavecaDo you work for AMD? :p
or perhaps...did you?
:roll:

Nope, but I'm a firm believer in the proverb "A Fish rots from the head"

AMD and their loyal followers have made an art form out of blaming outgoing executives for their woes (when they aren't playing the beat-down underdog vs Goliath card). Without exception, every CEO, and many of the other top management have been hired by the board. The board also dictate the company's governance and direction.

"We [AMD BoD] are paving and charting our own path to success..."

Rory Read memo to all AMD staff as publicized by S|A (see their front page)

If buzz words and marketing pap were dollar bills, AMD would be bigger than Wal-Mart and IBM combined.

WOW! This is just too much. First there video card company now this. Looks like AMD is sinking faster than the Titanic! What happened? Is this really a reflection of there Phenom and BD? This could really cripple AMD. BAD Just BAD news!

HumanSmokeNope, but I'm a firm believer in the proverb "A Fish rots from the head"

AMD and their loyal followers have made an art form out of blaming outgoing executives for their woes (when they aren't playing the beat-down underdog vs Goliath card). Without exception, every CEO, and many of the other top management have been hired by the board. The board also dictate the company's governance and direction.

Rory Read memo to all AMD staff as publicized by S|A (see their front page)

If buzz words and marketing pap were dollar bills, AMD would be bigger than Wal-Mart and IBM combined.

Meh. I thinmk AMD needs to go down to 25 staff.


Yes, just 25. They are, after all, just a small engineering firm, and nothing else now.


Not that I want peopel to lose their job..that sucks, but if AMD is to last long-term, some drastic changes have to take place, and I dunno that the board of directors needs the axing...are they even paid? I mean, if they are, then perhaps, but they should fire whoever made the choice for spending money to hire someone to figure out who needs to go...

AMD was taking a wrong turn years ago. I think they are just too stupid and proud to turn around.


Wonder who they are selling out to? Samsung? Nvidia? Nvidia could spare to spend a few hundred million fighting Intel for the patent rights, or just threatening to pull the X64 cross license if they bought AMD/ATI.

SteevoWonder who they are selling out to? Samsung? Nvidia? Nvidia could spare to spend a few hundred million fighting Intel for the patent rights, or just threatening to pull the X64 cross license if they bought AMD/ATI.

Everyone keeps saying that x86 is dead. Add in that anyone buying AMD (assuming that the x86, x86-64 cross licence is transferable) would be faced with the same problem that AMD has- namely having to arm wrestle Intel. Might be ok for a cash rich company- but most of those seem to be either heading the ARM way (Apple, Nvidia for example), or might run headlong into the U.S. Govt. who I doubt would willingly allow AMD's IP go offshore (ATIC/Mubadala). When Rory was hired, I had the strong suspicion that he would be Mubadala's stalking horse- systematically disassembling AMD until the price was right for Abu Dhabi to step in. It would be somewhat ironic if AMD ended up as a division of Globalfoundries.
AMD could conceiveably just limp along, divesting itself of market presence and selling IP as they go. They could do OK just working in the APU/console space (as a small company), with maybe the Radeon division spun off with part ownership going to another company. You'd think that AMD would need some ownership in the graphics company for the development of APU's and consoles.

In the end, AMD wont go to the wall. The FTC wouldn't allow Intel to have a complete monopoly....maybe Intel buys a few million AMD chips just to keep them afloat - don't know what they'd do with them...send them straight to China for recycling?...use them to tile the urinals in the executive washrooms at Santa Clara? (might put a smile on Otellini's face)

need an asprin.... maybe i should grab some high end gpus before they fade away......:shadedshu

HumanSmokeEveryone keeps saying that x86 is dead. Add in that anyone buying AMD (assuming that the x86, x86-64 cross licence is transferable) would be faced with the same problem that AMD has- namely having to arm wrestle Intel. Might be ok for a cash rich company- but most of those seem to be either heading the ARM way (Apple, Nvidia for example), or might run headlong into the U.S. Govt. who I doubt would willingly allow AMD's IP go offshore (ATIC/Mubadala).

ARM has its benefits and its drawbacks, there's a reason it hasn't exploded in desktop settings--it's just not as powerful when scaled up. Keep in mind that Intel is just getting into the mobile world, they released an x86-based mobile CPU that gets battery life on par for ARM chips, and outperforms all but the bleeding edge of ARM CPU's, and that was their first try. Give them another 2-3 years and I would not be surprised to see Intel producing the most powerful and power-efficient mobile CPU's on the market, and they will be x86.

As for another company buying them out, who do you think people recognize more; AMD or IBM? What about between AMD and Samsung? AMD does not have name recognition, and that's part of why they don't make any headway against Intel. I would venture as far as to say more people probably know of companies like Qualcomm than AMD. If a larger company--preferably one with manufacturing capabilities--buys out AMD, it would probably help them quite a bit.

HumanSmokeAMD could conceiveably just limp along, divesting itself of market presence and selling IP as they go. They could do OK just working in the APU/console space (as a small company), with maybe the Radeon division spun off with part ownership going to another company. You'd think that AMD would need some ownership in the graphics company for the development of APU's and consoles.

The rumor is that most of the cuts are to the Graphics Division, and that is horribly irresponsible on AMD's behalf, because the Graphics Division has been doing excellent (especially by comparison) while the CPU division is just bleeding dry. I would love to see another competitor in the GPU or CPU market, but it's just not likely all things considered.

HumanSmokeIn the end, AMD wont go to the wall. The FTC wouldn't allow Intel to have a complete monopoly....maybe Intel buys a few million AMD chips just to keep them afloat - don't know what they'd do with them...send them straight to China for recycling?...use them to tile the urinals in the executive washrooms at Santa Clara? (might put a smile on Otellini's face)

It's possible Intel could invest in AMD, the same way Microsoft invested in Apple when they were on the verge of failing. An Intel monopoly would not lead to a technology standoff, but it would probably hurt Intel more than anyone.

xenocideIt's possible Intel could invest in AMD, the same way Microsoft invested in Apple when they were on the verge of failing. An Intel monopoly would not lead to a technology standoff, but it would probably hurt Intel more than anyone.

I could see this happening as well...A lot of members have brought it up. Intel monopoly would lead to many bad things.

I hope whoever is the chief BULLDOZER designer should be fired and he should have a permanent tatoo on his forehead saying 'I designed BullDozer and I Suck!'

Only when they throw away the stupid high frequency BD design and come up with a new smart more IPC, low ghz and low power consumption they can even do something to the company.

cdawallIntel monopoly would lead to many bad things.

How so? Intel couldn't really sit around without inovating since it would cause a lot of people to just stop buying CPU's. They are driven by demand from companies that rely on computers (Music Production, Web Servers, Movie Rendering, etc.) more than average people. Almost everyone could get by with a mediocre dual or quad core these days, it's the people that need more power that drive Intel to offer better CPU's. If these people had no reason to upgrade Intel would lose a ton of money.

This would also lead to ARM actually seeming viable since it would be Intel sitting around doing nothing while ARM had time to develop valid desktop CPU's.

cadavecaMeh. I thinmk AMD needs to go down to 25 staff.
Not that I want peopel to lose their job..that sucks, but if AMD is to last long-term, some drastic changes have to take place, and I dunno that the board of directors needs the axing...

So that would be 11 board membersand 14 other personnel...sounds like a recipe for success!

cadavecaare they even paid? I mean, if they are, then perhaps

Well, Clafin got $727,000 in cash+stock in 2009 and most of the others picked up a quarter million apiece according to SEC filings...not bad for running a company into the ground.

cadavecabut they should fire whoever made the choice for spending money to hire someone to figure out who needs to go...

That would be the Board of Directors. Who else would be determining company strategy?

suraswamiI hope whoever is the chief BULLDOZER designer should be fired and he should have a permanent tatoo on his forehead saying 'I designed BullDozer and I Suck!'.

How about the bright spark that thought selling off the handheld graphics IP for peanuts was a good idea?

xenocideHow so? Intel couldn't really sit around without inovating since it would cause a lot of people to just stop buying CPU's. They are driven by demand from companies that rely on computers (Music Production, Web Servers, Movie Rendering, etc.) more than average people. Almost everyone could get by with a mediocre dual or quad core these days, it's the people that need more power that drive Intel to offer better CPU's. If these people had no reason to upgrade Intel would lose a ton of money.

This would also lead to ARM actually seeming viable since it would be Intel sitting around doing nothing while ARM had time to develop valid desktop CPU's.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_antitrust_law

I said it in another thread AMD is to big to fail. Soon it will be like GM (Government Motors) with its new name Americuh! Micro Devices.

Damn, I hope they stay in the game. I do prefer nVidia and Intel over AMD/ATI but they NEED a competitor to avoid the kind of monopoly Apple is aiming for.

Nobody could ever come out of nowhere and instantly stand up to nVidia.

1d10tyeah...and let chuck norris lead engineering and PSY gangnam for marketing :rockout:

Oppa AMD STYLE!!!

HEEEEEEYYYYY SEXY CLOCKING!!!

Ya know that would totally sell. AMD hurry up and sign PSY on for your next marketing stunt! Might actually sell people on the insane overclock hype!

xenocideHow so? Intel couldn't really sit around without inovating since it would cause a lot of people to just stop buying CPU's. They are driven by demand from companies that rely on computers (Music Production, Web Servers, Movie Rendering, etc.) more than average people. Almost everyone could get by with a mediocre dual or quad core these days, it's the people that need more power that drive Intel to offer better CPU's. If these people had no reason to upgrade Intel would lose a ton of money.

This would also lead to ARM actually seeming viable since it would be Intel sitting around doing nothing while ARM had time to develop valid desktop CPU's.

Without competition they can charge whatever they want for their product.

hopefully they will be sackign the whole marketing dept.

i hope with that AMD would be a better competitor to Intel, maybe they need more efficient and more productive than now

looking at the current situation, i hope they will be able to stay in the market. leave alone, trying match intel.

sacking 1/3 employees means they are really broke.

I wonder if we'll see an independent ATI again.