Monday, June 1st 2015

Windows 10 Release Date Announced

Microsoft Windows 10 will launch on the 29th of July, 2015. This is when existing users of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 will be able to upgrade to their applicable variant of Windows 10 for free; PC makers ship desktops and notebooks with the OS pre-installed; and when you will be able to buy Windows 10 copies off the shelf.

Microsoft is expecting at least 350 million users of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 to freely upgrade to Windows 10 by the end of the year, many of which could upgrade on day-one, clogging Microsoft Update. To mitigate that, Microsoft launched a "reservation" system. Current users of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1, woke up to a curious Windows logo in their system-tray, which launches a tiny app that lets you "reserve" your upgrade (a position in the queue to upgrade). When your time comes, Windows will fetch the Windows 10 upgrade image from Microsoft Update. The actual upgrade process will be similar to that of Windows 7 to Windows 8. You can choose a clean install, or upgrade over an existing installation. Once installed, your Windows 10 license is tied to the machine forever.
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52 Comments on Windows 10 Release Date Announced

#1
GhostRyder
Well it is still 2 months off (Little less), unfortunate because I was hoping for some reason end of June.
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#2
Luka KLLP
Good, now I can upgrade early July and get Windows 8.1 Pro (and thus Windows 10 Pro) for 60 euros, yay for being a student :D
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#4
Chaitanya
I saw that pop up this morning and did reserve the copy. My only concern is would be allowed to do a clean install of OS?
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#5
Haytch
Chaitanya, post: 3290388, member: 93474"
I saw that pop up this morning and did reserve the copy. My only concern is would be allowed to do a clean install of OS?
Yes, me too. I hope that we will be able to do a clean install using the old code.
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#8
Luka KLLP
cheesy999, post: 3290398, member: 85875"
If dreamspark'll count you as a valid student it'd be free though was my thought
Oh right, sorry. Will check that as well, thanks!
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#9
Kursah
My issue is the "tied to the machine forever" stuff. So are they removing the ability to call the 800-number to migrate the activation over to different hardware in case of...say a mainboard replacement? How is this going to be handled? Honestly I feel if I sell a machine sans OS, I should still have the right to install the OS I own to my new hardware. Makes me hesitant to move forward to 10...but maybe I'm misreading or reading too much into it.
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#10
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
Chaitanya, post: 3290388, member: 93474"
I saw that pop up this morning and did reserve the copy. My only concern is would be allowed to do a clean install of OS?
Answer was in OP:
btarunr, post: 3290377, member: 43587"
You can choose a clean install, or upgrade over an existing installation.
@Kursah that tied to machine forever bit is the catch on free for life. Those of us on 1155 hardware are likely going to have to buy a copy when our hardware dies or we need to upgrade, despite me being on a retail license of W8.1 now. I knew there was a catch!
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#11
R-T-B
Kursah, post: 3290436, member: 31452"
My issue is the "tied to the machine forever" stuff. So are they removing the ability to call the 800-number to migrate the activation over to different hardware in case of...say a mainboard replacement? How is this going to be handled? Honestly I feel if I sell a machine sans OS, I should still have the right to install the OS I own to my new hardware. Makes me hesitant to move forward to 10...but maybe I'm misreading or reading too much into it.
Technically, it's been this way with everything but full retail licenses for a while. A full retail license can be reused, but a OEM or upgrade license is tied to the mobo of the system.

I hope when we finally discard our "freebie" license that we can purchase something permanent akin to a full retail license, and not deal with all this fuss.
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#12
Uplink10
Microsoft already put adware for Windows 10 on my Windows 7 through updates.
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#13
manofthem
WCG-TPU Team All-Star!
So I need to make sure I do my next cpu/mobo upgrade before doing this Win10 upgrade.
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#14
GreiverBlade
Luka KLLP, post: 3290385, member: 153378"
Good, now I can upgrade early July and get Windows 8.1 Pro (and thus Windows 10 Pro) for 60 euros, yay for being a student :D
Well what about, 3xWin 7 64 Pro for less than 36$ ea.(and thus Win 10) :D
Yay for being a lifeguard.... Wait... Uh? What?
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#15
Nordic
I have been moving my OEM windows 7 license from motherboard to motherboard for years. Not once have I ever had a problem doing this. I expect it to be a non issue still.
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#16
Prima.Vera
btarunr, post: 3290377, member: 43587"
Once installed, your Windows 10 license is tied to the machine forever.


This is crap. I am planning to change my mobo in a couple of years, together with the GPU, CPU, RAM, etc. How would the genius know?
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#17
Pill Monster
btarunr, post: 3290377, member: 43587"
Microsoft Windows 10 will launch on the 29th of July, 2015. This is when existing users of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 will be able to upgrade to their applicable variant of Windows 10 for free; PC makers ship desktops and notebooks with the OS pre-installed; and when you will be able to buy Windows 10 copies off the shelf.
Once installed, your Windows 10 license is tied to the machine forever.
Do you have a source to back that up because it sounds like speculation.


Dunno about anyone else but I've seen nothing on MSDN or TN to suggest single machine license. What purpose would it serve when the OS is free?
Hence why VL and Enterprise are not part of the offer I imagine..... more likely to be done the way Office 365 is imho, a subscription tied to an account......
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#18
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
Pill Monster, post: 3290694, member: 137584"
Do you have a source to back that up because it sounds like speculation.
I meant to say that even after the "1 year free upgrade" period, you stay on as a paid user forever (well, until this product's support lifetime anyway).
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#20
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Windows 10 Home will be $119, Pro $199.
The easiest way to get Windows 10 is to upgrade for free. You may also purchase a copy of Windows 10 if you decide not to upgrade, or if you need to purchase a copy for other reasons like installing on a PC you built yourself. The suggested retail prices for Windows 10 in the U.S. are the same as Windows 8.1.

Windows 10 Home is an estimated retail price of $119. Windows 10 Pro is an estimated retail price of $199. And Windows 10 Pro Pack, which enables you to upgrade from Windows 10 Home to Windows 10 Pro, is an estimated retail price of $99. All these are available in stores or online.
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-windows-10-home-costs-119-pro-costs-199



Which is good news actually, because Windows 8.1 is loads cheaper than previous versions (retail licensing at Windows 7 OEM prices). And it sort of puts a huge hole in the Windows subscription theory.
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#21
Pill Monster
btarunr, post: 3290739, member: 43587"
I meant to say that even after the "1 year free upgrade" period, you stay on as a paid user forever (well, until this product's support lifetime anyway).
For users who upgrade within the 1yr window there is no subscription. They have it free for life. It's the offer which lasts a year.

Also the license is attached to an account not a machine.. You might want to edit the the article..... ;)


Here's all the info u need ...
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/wiki/insider_wintp-insider_install/frequently-asked-questions-windows-10/5c0b9368-a9e8-4238-b1e4-45f4b7ed2fb9
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#22
Caring1
Pill Monster, post: 3290831, member: 137584"
For users who upgrade within the 1yr window there is no subscription. They have it free for life. It's the offer which lasts a year.
This part was established a while ago here, thanks.
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#23
Pill Monster
Caring1, post: 3290834, member: 153156"
This part was established a while ago here, thanks.
U obviously didn't read the thread:
I meant to say that even after the "1 year free upgrade" period, you stay on as a paid user forever (well, until this product's support lifetime anyway
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#24
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Pill Monster, post: 3290831, member: 137584"
For users who upgrade within the 1yr window there is no subscription. They have it free for life. It's the offer which lasts a year.
What would be interesting to know is how it works if I were to reinstall the machine, or change systems, after the year is up.
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#25
buggalugs
Im not sure this is so clear yet, what about this:

What happens if I change my motherboard?

This will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous based qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license.

It seems to me that you can install the upgrade to windows 10 and it will last as long as your computer lasts. But if you upgrade motherboards and SSD's After the first year, you're screwed and need to buy a new licence.
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