Friday, April 22nd 2016

AMD to Custom-design CPUs for the Chinese Government

AMD could custom-design enterprise CPUs for the Chinese Government. The move was announced in the company's latest quarterly results. China's quest for its "own" hardware and software running government and state-run companies and institutions, hit a roadblock with the government's inability to come up with a reliable enterprise processor, particularly one that runs on the x86 architecture. That need could be fulfilled by Sunnyvale, California-based AMD; which could design special enterprise CPUs under close supervision of the Chinese authorities under a joint-venture with a state-run company. This deal could earn AMD USD $293 million in cash.

In a joint venture between AMD and THATIC (Tianjin Haiguang Advanced Technology Investment Co., Ltd.), AMD's x86 expertise could be put to use in developing everything between tiny SoCs to large, multi-socket CPUs that drive enterprise machines (data-centers, HPC farms, military cyber infrastructure), for the Chinese government, and state-run companies. At this point, neither of the companies are commenting on which kind of x86 core architecture from AMD could be adopted. AMD has two distinct types of x86 cores, low-power, high-density cores such as "Jaguar," which can be found on devices such as the Sony PlayStation 4, and large modular cores such as the ones found on its FX-series and Opteron X-series CPUs.
Source: Forbes
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61 Comments on AMD to Custom-design CPUs for the Chinese Government

#51
HumanSmoke
FourstaffIIRC AMD's first x86 chip was reverse engineered from Intel's design.
Aye. Jerry Sanders authorized the Am386 program - Project Longhorn, in 1989. Fully reverse-engineered using only publicly available information. Didn't stop Intel winning IP infringement damages of $58m in 1995 (offset by AMD winning $10m in damages in 1993, $18m plus a 386 license and the right to outsource 20% of x86 production to third-party foundries in 1995)
FourstaffBased on PRC's history, we have no doubt that they will steal and strongarm some company (TSMC,Samsung or one of their homegrown foundries?) to produce copies.
Or maybe just gobble up a foundry company like SMIC that have all but been squeezed out of the business.
FordGT90ConceptIntel refused to license x86 so reverse engineering was the only option. Then came IBM which, in order to use Intel CPUs, they demanded Intel license it out (especially to AMD) because they wouldn't work with a monopoly.
It actually happened in the opposite order. IBM demanded a second source for the 8088/8086 because Intel were a relatively new (and small) player in the market - and the bulk of their foundry capacity was given over to high profit DRAM and EPROM. By the time the 386 arrived, IBM was largely a spent force in the PC market (Microsoft and Intel had gained dominance thanks to the 80286 PC clone market). Intel basically kept AMD hanging with regards the 386. Intel had no use for a licensed competitors any more - too many like Harris, AMD, Fujitsu, and Siemens were undercutting Intel's own product. The strategy was that everyone expected AMD to get a 386 license so it kept larger companies such as Hitachi and NEC from making approaches to AMD for partnership deals. Intel intended to keep AMD strung along on that assumption until the big players lost interest in AMD. Sanders took a while to figure what was going on, but finally authorized Project Longhorn when he realized he wasn't getting a 386 license. AMD initiated litigation in 1986 for breach of good faith, and greenlit Longhorn in 1989.
FordGT90ConceptReverse engineering a chip with 100,000 transistors is easy compared to the processors today with transistor counts in the billions.
Just to play the pedant, the 80386 has 275,000 transistors.
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#53
Caring1
remixedcatAMD are sluts!!
Everyone is for the right money.
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#54
xenocide
AMD! For when you have literally no other option!
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#55
arterius2
the media brainwashing in this thread is real.
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#56
FordGT90Concept
"I go fast!1!11!1!"
The media never talks about AMD so how could that be?
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#57
arterius2
FordGT90ConceptThe media never talks about AMD so how could that be?
Wasn't talking about AMD.
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#59
arterius2
FordGT90ConceptCare to elaborate?
Oh no, I dare not! or I'd be called names and labeled as unpatriotic. But I just imagine that the furthest those people ventured is probably their backyard.
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Caring1
arterius2the media brainwashing in this thread is real.
Not sure about you, but I have traveled through Asia including China, and what has been said in this thread has been correct.
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#61
rtwjunkie
PC Gaming Enthusiast
arterius2labeled as unpatriotic
How exactly would someone label you as that in an international forum? That's actually one thing I have never seen on on here.
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