Monday, April 10th 2017
NVIDIA Beats AMD to Market On HBM2 - Announces Tesla P100
NVIDIA has announced availability of their latest data center accelerator, the Tesla P100, which is the world's first HBM2-powered add-in-card. this means that NVIDIA effectively beat AMD in time to market with HBM2 technology, which AMD pioneered (in its HBM form) with the Fury line of graphics cards.NVIDIA naturally touts this as the world's most advanced data center accelerator, for workloads such as "Artificial intelligence for self-driving cars. Predicting our climate's future. A new drug to treat cancer." NVIDIA's green graphics show an almost 50x increase in computing power from 8x Tesla P100 accelerators when compared to a dual CPU server based on Intel's Xeon E5-2698 V3 (which isn't really all that surprising.) NVIDIA further brings in the PR talk with examples on how a single GPU-accelerated node powered by four Tesla P100s - interconnected with PCIe - can replace up to 32 commodity CPU nodes for a variety of applications - saving up to 70% in overall data center costs.
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105 Comments on NVIDIA Beats AMD to Market On HBM2 - Announces Tesla P100
Surprised at the pricing. I thought it would be dearer.
Maybe a month or two.
When a company is an underdog because they are not competitive, they are not an underdog, they are noncompetitive, full stop. And AMD has not been competitive GPU wise since (arguable) the 200/300 series. CPU wise, they just became competitive again.
The people rooting for vega need to realize how badly AMD is managing their GPU line. The 400s are competitive against the 900 line, from 2014. They have no GPU to perform against the 1070, 1080, 1080ti, titan pascal, or titan Xp. Vega is a year late, and much like fury X, no fancy HBM is going to fix an noncompetitive GPU.
About VEGA, well, we'll see, if it's only slightly better than pascal, then it's a flop, total, at least from an architectural standpoint, if they place the cards with good prices is another thing, so they could be competitive on the price/performance, plus hbm2, which should be supposedly a pro over pascal.
Someone inform this peasant about how this works/what they do with them/etc.. i cant even grasp it, i'd have thought this is the sole domain of a CPU?
edit: No offense dude, but you have a very particular style. You start by taking a bite out of peoples' asses, then take it a notch down to passive/aggressive+innuendos and the world be damned. You do this repeatedly, you do this the instant someone says something you do not agree with. Repeatedly enough to get you noticed.
Cool it. Or better yet, ammend.
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But yeah that sxm2 version which is in dxg-1 haven't been really available for separate sell. And why would it be, you would need special motherboard to take one. Funny fact is that those pcie taslas does not support nvlink but quadro gp100 does.
See, I'm also proficient with caps.
MI25 was the first officially announced AMD product based on VEGA and using HBM2.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General-purpose_computing_on_graphics_processing_units
I'm growing old, lol
Performance wise, the vega peaks AMD has shown are around 1070 level, if not slightly higher. If AMD has mature drivers at launch (which, given their history, is highly unlikely) they MIGHT reach a 1080 in some games, and be between the 1070 and 1080 in others. Given the price for making a fury, I am not confident that AMD can release vega, with HBM2, cheaper then a 1080 and make anywhere near the money nvidia makes per 1080.
You attack him personally on a bias, implying he is blind by fanboyism, then he provides simple facts supporting the claims and that is your reply...
Good stuff man, next time perhaps just apologize and take your words back.
In the end all that matters is who has the best business, you can be first or last it doesn't mean shit. Look at Apple, last in everything, had one good idea, has the highest margin on mobile of the entire globe. Look at AMD: wants to be first and pioneer in tech, worst sales figures in the tech business.
This topic discussion has awful likeness to news topics where the first commenter yells 'FIRST!'... and about the same value. Think on that for abit.
I'm so glad he has full knowledge of an unreleased product. Whew, nothing to see here, move along.
"There are people supporting AMD in markets where they are competitive (low end CPU and GPU). And there are people who are supporting them based on promises and speculation. That second group is the issue."
Totally agreed, the big problem is those people always try and make you look like the intel/nvidia fanboy or amd hater, so yeah.
In my opinion, if VEGA doesn't beat Pascal clean, it's a flop, there's no other way to say it, AMD in the latest years, was never a whole year behind nvidia, never, 2xx 3xx and also 4xx were/are extremely competitive, always 10% within nvidia cards, that's why i'd rate them a flop, in case they were even slightly faster than 1080
For the record, AMD stock is still down 7.5% in the last week alone. Better hope those April sales numbers aren't as bad as March.